It's kind of an unavoidable "feature" of the class when you think about it. It's the same way Warrior is predisposed to Control decks. The Hunter will never not be aggro.
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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks
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It's kind of an unavoidable "feature" of the class when you think about it. It's the same way Warrior is predisposed to Control decks. The Hunter will never not be aggro.
Halp me, GAF.
I have enough dust to make sum Dragins (Twilight Guardians / Wyrmrest Doods), and am excited about playing them in Priest!
I also have enough dust to craft ONE Legendary and don't have -
1) Dr. Boom
2) Sylvanas
3) Ysera
4) Paletress
Common sense tells me to craft the Doctor.
My playstyle suggests Dirty Syl or Ysera.
My heart is telling me to GO PALETRESS.
WHAT SHOULD I DO!?
I have enough dust to make sum Dragins (Twilight Guardians / Wyrmrest Doods), and am excited about playing them in Priest!
I also have enough dust to craft ONE Legendary and don't have -
1) Dr. Boom
2) Sylvanas
3) Ysera
4) Paletress
Common sense tells me to craft the Doctor.
My playstyle suggests Dirty Syl or Ysera.
My heart is telling me to GO PALETRESS.
WHAT SHOULD I DO!?
WesternHeretic
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Follow your heart.
DE both and craft their normal variants. #consistency
In pretty much 95% of the decks where you would run Sylvanas or Ysera you're also going to run the good Doctor.
Go with the Doctor.
Everything is full of paladins.
veloxStrix
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Better out than palad-IN, I always say.
I'll find the door myself, thanks for the offer though.
Don't do this.
WesternHeretic
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Made a new acc for fun since I have no gold to spend on arena on my main. Did the first free arena so far 3-1 and all 4 matches so far have been all against Paladins. LOL.
Edit: Game #5 = Paladin too....
Edit: Game #5 = Paladin too....
BananasWithGuns
Member
How does Ramp Druid do against the new Paladin decks?
Honestly seems like it would be pretty decent in this meta provided it isn't horrible against secret Paladin.
Honestly seems like it would be pretty decent in this meta provided it isn't horrible against secret Paladin.
Secret Paladin doesn't necessarily run Owl or Equality, which gives Ramp a leg up. But you still kind of need to draw into AoW and Swipe. And maybe BGH for the MC.
poppedcollar69
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ah the dreadsteed
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Just fought a face rogue as Dragon Priest.
Weirdly effective? Cold Blood is actually pretty strong
Weirdly effective? Cold Blood is actually pretty strong
irfaanator
Banned
how do you fight patron with mid range hunter? I thought I was doing alright when fighting one, but once he had like 4 patrons out I couldnt do much. I think I wasted unleash the hounds too early but I wanted to get rid of his warsong commander early
You'll probably see them more often, yesterday it was #1 of the hot decks over at hearthpwn.
At least it actually requires correct play and not simply smashing your face into the keyboard.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Well, hit rank 5. Maybe I'll actually try to push for legend this month.
homeworkfilms
Member
Murloc Knight as a common with the boost to TGT card draw in arena is completely broken. I still don't understand how they don't modify card rarities in arena.
Yeah it's a really fun deck. Flash Heal is also very versatile against all those Huntards. 1 mana 5 damage, a Zombie Chow trigger without Circle of Healing for 10 face damage or 5 HP heal for 1 mana.
toddhunter
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Patron math: 1, 2.... Umm LOTS!!!
As a Starcraft 2 ex-fan, I can absolutely confirm you that Blizzard don't know shit about balancing, nor they give a rat-ass about it. They abbandoned theoretical game design long, long, time ago. In fact, seeing how atrocious Beyond Earth came to be, I would argue that this is a shitty industry wide tendence, I fear :S
Well we don't actually know the real arena rarities of cards. We just assume it's even when in reality it might be heavily tinkered.
crazygambit
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So I bought a pack with the gold I got from the brawl quest and got a Mal'Ganis. So I went to make a Warlock deck, since I've been wanting to play with it for a while, but was missing that card (and Lord Jaraxxus).
Turns out I ended up with a zoo deck without it, but I quite like it. Fist of Jaraxxus is actually pretty good.
Turns out I ended up with a zoo deck without it, but I quite like it. Fist of Jaraxxus is actually pretty good.
Didn´t see it posted yet but Design Insights with Ben Brode.
I like that he talks about that they are aware of some of the problems and want to have a good path laid out for the future but it is bothering me that they know that they have a problem with newcomers and the amount of cards they have to collect yet they change the arena rewards to be random.
I do wonder if we´re going to get an update around/after Blizzcon. Maybe an adventure in december?
I like that he talks about that they are aware of some of the problems and want to have a good path laid out for the future but it is bothering me that they know that they have a problem with newcomers and the amount of cards they have to collect yet they change the arena rewards to be random.
I do wonder if we´re going to get an update around/after Blizzcon. Maybe an adventure in december?
I have a feeling that when we get the next Adventure, Naxx will become free. Then when we get the next GvG/TGT style expansion, we'll have a "card crunch" where certain cards are eliminated from Standard play, and GvG is consolidated into Classic packs. Cards that no longer become legal will be relegated to a "legacy" play mode that allows all cards.
BlackBuzzard
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I really wish Blizzard would just completely remove owl. It would be such a blow to brainless aggro decks.
The solution is really obvious to me, they're not going to make anything free, nobody expects that or asks for that either. The current pack economy is just so outdated, it made sense when there was one set not now. You can't expect people to invest gold let alone money into 40 dust packs. Magic has it right, after you open certain copies of a card it's done. Now I'm not saying two, make it four, two become dust then you can't open any more of that freaking card ever again unless you DE your two and it resets back to four again. You will eventually have a full set if you keep at it this way, that possibility alone will make the whole thing much easier to deal with for everyone. It will make it more likely that people invest more money into pack unlike now when you know there is no end to it, you will then can like spent 100 bucks and have a full set. That that should be reasonable for both sides, most people don't even need or want full sets, they can get good number of cards by spending some money with that. Those 40 dust packs just ruin any and all excitement after a while, you can't expect people to put up with that forever.
Other than that, you know, have some sales sometimes? amazon does more for this game than Blizzard, hilarious.
I'm not really holding my breath for anything to change really, just look at Nozdormu glitch, it was going for a loong time, all we got that we are aware of the issue, it wasn't fixed until a popular streamer was exploiting it for tens of thousands of viewers to see. Or deck slots, first it was confusing for a year, then they changed their stance that they want it but want to do it right, whatever, months passed now, nothing whatsoever. It's not rocket science, maybe deck slots are confusing for Blizzard not players. How hard can it be to add them to the game?
I'm not saying Blizzard doesn't want to make everything great, they're just too damn slow to do anything. Not just with this game either. All of them pretty much.
Other than that, you know, have some sales sometimes? amazon does more for this game than Blizzard, hilarious.
I'm not really holding my breath for anything to change really, just look at Nozdormu glitch, it was going for a loong time, all we got that we are aware of the issue, it wasn't fixed until a popular streamer was exploiting it for tens of thousands of viewers to see. Or deck slots, first it was confusing for a year, then they changed their stance that they want it but want to do it right, whatever, months passed now, nothing whatsoever. It's not rocket science, maybe deck slots are confusing for Blizzard not players. How hard can it be to add them to the game?
I'm not saying Blizzard doesn't want to make everything great, they're just too damn slow to do anything. Not just with this game either. All of them pretty much.
removing cards, wat? why would you do that? to make them free? How you can choose those cards exactly without breaking anything in the non legacy play mode?
MMaRsu
Member
What if you play a secret that returns a minion to life with one health and on turn 3 you coin a piloted shredder with nothing else on the board?
Did you already have one of each totem on the board?
It depends, if you had a secret keeper or a shielded minibot, you can gain a huge board advantage depending of which secret you had
In the end the idea of Secret Paladin is having such a good board that at turn 6 your opponent has no chance but buff one minion of yours.
Now the problem is when you play 2 times the same secret without MC, then it loses some of the value
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFf67aJ4p4&feature=youtu.be
Look at the insane ending of this video
Super Nothing
Member
That's not a problem for new players, though. That's a problem for players that have everything but TGT cards and who were expecting arena to award TGT packs for the next few months. New players don't care and probably get all new cards from every pack they open from every set.
Phawx
Member
Right, but secretkeeper is a great turn 1 play for MC Paladin. What I'm saying is, if you don't have SK in your opening hand or only have secrets or whatever, you are much better off not playing a secret on turn 1.
The only thing they are doing is letting your opponent have a free chance at seeing what secret you are playing. Generally speaking, it's *always* avenge. It's just a bad play in my book. It just opens up this whole avenue of having the secret backfire on them by not playing into the secret.
That may be true but you also want to clear your hand ASAP to maximize your Divine Favor. If you didn't draw your Mysterious Challenger and your hand is almost empty by turn 6 you need every extra card to get that in your hand ASAP (while also hoping you don't draw all the secrets.) It's just the all-in nature of the deck.
I see. well, as epics I wanted to disenchant spellbender, clockwork giant and gladiator's longbow. maybe recruiter too.
from what I've seen however he doesn't fit in any deck I'd like to use. to be honest I've only seen him being played in some control warrior decks.
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