I think that is still a problem that he dies against truesilver champion, death bite or piloted shredder. You can even included all those minions with 2 attack plus an abusive sergeant
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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks
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I think that is still a problem that he dies against truesilver champion, death bite or piloted shredder. You can even included all those minions with 2 attack plus an abusive sergeant
Fragamemnon
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Chalked up a 12-2 in arena as a rogue with no bombs and just a solid curve with just enough tricks to either keep tempo or wrestle it back as needed.
Arena is so much more interesting than constructed, I wish they put more thought into making Warriors not awful there and not printing bomb minion cards like Murloc Knight at common.
Arena is so much more interesting than constructed, I wish they put more thought into making Warriors not awful there and not printing bomb minion cards like Murloc Knight at common.
BaltimoreLarry
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I just got the quest to spectate a win. Anyone playing tonight?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I am so confused as to why you STILL cannot filter new cards and golden cards. This game is missing features that it should've had after the beta was over and it's so frustrating.
Type new in the search box to filter.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Damn did they just add that in TGT? I checked to see if it worked after patches but gave up a while ago. I rescind my bitching for today
Mobius and pet octopus
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I tried the "new" search after I opened a pack... 40 dust pack.
Breaking news: Fellow midrange/control paladins, it can be done!
I've played 5 warriors on ladder with this paladin deck. 100% win rate. But I've only played against 1 patron warrior (seen above). 26 matches and only played against 1 patron warrior.
Breaking news: Fellow midrange/control paladins, it can be done!
I've played 5 warriors on ladder with this paladin deck. 100% win rate. But I've only played against 1 patron warrior (seen above). 26 matches and only played against 1 patron warrior.
Fragamemnon
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Patron warrior is hella annoying to play on low rank ladder because everyone is running random cards and not fixed lists, and those random cards can just blow you out. Patron requires you to know your opponent's outs to a play and when they throw a curve ball into your logic, things can get real bad.
It's somewhat better in 5 to legend. It's a great deck for grinding to a top legend rank because the lists are more consistent. It's really iffy as a ladder choice below rank 5 IMO.
It's somewhat better in 5 to legend. It's a great deck for grinding to a top legend rank because the lists are more consistent. It's really iffy as a ladder choice below rank 5 IMO.
Agreed but Patron still can perform pretty strongly thanks to it's inate flexibility and survivablity (assuming curveballs remain at a minimum). That being said there are other workhorses that can rocket you up to rank 5 that random decks can't compete with. Secrets Paladin and various warlock variants are great for this. As well as hybrid hunter.
Onion_Relish
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I got up to rank 6 with hybrid hunter. It has decent match ups against everything except secret paladin. Hoping to get legend with it but I'm on a losing streak atm
BaltimoreLarry
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I am struggling with hybrid hunter. It seems if I don't nail the initial draw, I'm getting crushed.
As Control Priest, I'm losing less to aggro and more to big, mid-range threats.
Shaman Destroyer / Fire Elemental, Paladin's Balanced Challenger into Challenger into Dr. 7....
I just can't keep up with all of the threats. Shaman especially is giving me a hard time with everything from Totem Golem on....
Nice seeing a variety of decks even if it means I'm stuck at Rank 16-17(!) right now.
Shaman Destroyer / Fire Elemental, Paladin's Balanced Challenger into Challenger into Dr. 7....
I just can't keep up with all of the threats. Shaman especially is giving me a hard time with everything from Totem Golem on....
Nice seeing a variety of decks even if it means I'm stuck at Rank 16-17(!) right now.
meh, 2nd challenger will generally be far less useful than the first one anyway.
Current state of decks (from best to worst):
Tempo mage - Because classics never dies, this is allowing me to go up in the ladder faster than any other deck
Inspire Priest - Surprisingly effective combination, one of my most efficient decks ever
Control warrior - Great deck, but you must play it really, really well in order to be effective. One of the most punishing decks that there are, IMHO, you can't afford to make a mistake
Secret deathrattle paladin - Efficiency? Screw that, I am having some riotous fun with this, and this composition really do play mind tricks with my opponents
Robo-Shaman: Extremely initial draw-dependant. Once I reach a critical card mass this is going to be reformed into a proper totemic shaman
Oily Pirate Roge - Since roge decks sucks bollocks almost universally, let it at least be entartaining
Face hunter: The opposite of oily pirate: Monothematic and boring yet very efficient deck
Druid - Most boring crap ever. Get ahead of the mana curve, start churning huge creatures, yadda, yadda. Not enough dragons nor beasts to make it interesting. Meh
Tempo mage - Because classics never dies, this is allowing me to go up in the ladder faster than any other deck
Inspire Priest - Surprisingly effective combination, one of my most efficient decks ever
Control warrior - Great deck, but you must play it really, really well in order to be effective. One of the most punishing decks that there are, IMHO, you can't afford to make a mistake
Secret deathrattle paladin - Efficiency? Screw that, I am having some riotous fun with this, and this composition really do play mind tricks with my opponents
Robo-Shaman: Extremely initial draw-dependant. Once I reach a critical card mass this is going to be reformed into a proper totemic shaman
Oily Pirate Roge - Since roge decks sucks bollocks almost universally, let it at least be entartaining
Face hunter: The opposite of oily pirate: Monothematic and boring yet very efficient deck
Druid - Most boring crap ever. Get ahead of the mana curve, start churning huge creatures, yadda, yadda. Not enough dragons nor beasts to make it interesting. Meh
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Trigger_happy
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Wow, Eloise has Reynad friendzoned and Frodan pride emotes, savage.
DyslexicAlucard
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I gotta say, as someone that's finally playing Patron Warrior after all this time: nothing feels better than wrecking a Face Hunter with a giant-ass combo the turn before you'd die.
Phawx
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That's the best
Been having a lot of fun with this deck
Its way more consistent than totem Shaman
You control the early/mid game with spells and healing, and then crush the lategame with massive minions
Ive had at least 10 Hunters/Pallys concede after I drop double healing wave and go from 10 HP to 30 in one turn
Phawx
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Been having a lot of fun with this deck
Its way more consistent than totem Shaman
You control the early/mid game with spells and healing, and then crush the lategame with massive minions
Ive had at least 10 Hunters/Pallys concede after I drop double healing wave and go from 10 HP to 30 in one turn
I played against a shaman in casual that only had topend cards and was jousting like nobody's business. Practically guaranteed he won every joust. nothing but 7-9
BlackBuzzard
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Something something Scamaz.
I think he got mad at his chat and Text-to-speech donations being offensive. He could have of course just moderated it, but I'd guess streaming isn't that important to him anymore.
BlackBuzzard
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Puts on text to speech wonders why he gets troll chat...
Servbot #42
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If Reynad really wanted to he could have put the chat in sub mode and cut the text to speech donations, that seems a better solution than to cut streaming alltogether, specially when you get money off it. There are ways to handle the heckling, then again the heckling is why i mostly watch the stream
It's all an act. I'm actually convinced that he's a relatively intelligent businessman because he just manufactures Jersey Shore drama and people buy that shit and his brand along with it hook line and sinker. He is printing money off of "gets so salty so easily."
Haunted
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Murloc Knight has been a big buff for Neptulon, not quite as significant as legendaries being eligible for Bane of Doom, but close.
He'll be back and saltier than ever.
How is Arena treating you guys?
Before TGT I averaged 6 wins, but since TGT my average has tanked pretty hard. I've had 12 runs. 6 of those runs were less than 3 wins with 2 games being 0 wins. Three of them at 4 wins. The others were 7, 9 and 11 wins.
It seems like drafting a good deck is more important than ever. It also seems like Tempo is key in about 80% of the match ups.
Before TGT I averaged 6 wins, but since TGT my average has tanked pretty hard. I've had 12 runs. 6 of those runs were less than 3 wins with 2 games being 0 wins. Three of them at 4 wins. The others were 7, 9 and 11 wins.
It seems like drafting a good deck is more important than ever. It also seems like Tempo is key in about 80% of the match ups.
Just had the funniest end to a game I've ever had in the short time I've been playing:
Mirror match, tempo mage. He's got 1 health left, I have 7. He's got a Mad Scientist, Spider Tank and one other five-attack minion. I've got a Mad Scientist, a barely-alive Water Elemental and two 0/2 taunts from playing Mirror Image.
It's his turn, and he Flamecannon's one of my taunts. All he has to do is kill my other taunt with his Scientist, then hit my face with his Spider Tank and other minion and I'm dead. Instead, he gets cute: He kills my taunt with his Scientist, uses his Tank and other minion to kill my Scientist and other minion to clear my board, then plays Rag so that, upon the end of his turn, it'll hit my face (the only remaining target) for 8 and kill me.
However, when he killed my Scientist, it activated Mirror Image. He plays Rag, and my secret spawns a Rag of my own. He ends his turn, his Rag hits mine instead of my face, and I use my hero power to kill him. So damn satisfying.
Mirror match, tempo mage. He's got 1 health left, I have 7. He's got a Mad Scientist, Spider Tank and one other five-attack minion. I've got a Mad Scientist, a barely-alive Water Elemental and two 0/2 taunts from playing Mirror Image.
It's his turn, and he Flamecannon's one of my taunts. All he has to do is kill my other taunt with his Scientist, then hit my face with his Spider Tank and other minion and I'm dead. Instead, he gets cute: He kills my taunt with his Scientist, uses his Tank and other minion to kill my Scientist and other minion to clear my board, then plays Rag so that, upon the end of his turn, it'll hit my face (the only remaining target) for 8 and kill me.
However, when he killed my Scientist, it activated Mirror Image. He plays Rag, and my secret spawns a Rag of my own. He ends his turn, his Rag hits mine instead of my face, and I use my hero power to kill him. So damn satisfying.
Phawx
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I enjoyed this.
Did you BM at the end? please tell me you did.
daemissary
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My average has dropped from 7.8 wins per run in the 3 months prior to TGT to 6.1 wins per run since TGT. I was closer to 5 wins per run immediately post release but I've been doing better recently.
I have a couple of theories as to why my average has dropped so much but I think that it's probably because a lot of bad Arena players blew all of their gold on TGT packs and started playing constructed with the new cards immediately post release and only the savvy arena players stuck around. Once the constructed meta gets stale again, I bet arena will get easier again.
That feeling when your opponent has a board full of 1 Health minions and is out of cards. You need a Holy Nova to win and you have 3 cards left in your deck (2 of which are Holy Novas). You draw a Velen's chosen, and just lose.
I had a game like that against Face Hunter, although it certainly wasn't that late in the game. Dude filled his entire board up with 1-2 health minions, even split up his spider. Holy Nova would have buried him. It never came.
Kotetsu534
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I've noticed a big uptick in weaker opponents in Arena over the last week or so. Today I even ran in to a Warrior (the first one I've seen in TGT). The first couple of TGT weeks were pretty tough for me, my average dropping to around 5 wins, but I've jumped up significantly over my past 10 runs. I think that with this expansion being much less Arena focussed than G&G (no early release to the Arena, no free run), your theory is probably right.
That said, I am absolutely killing it with Rogue. No 12-win runs yet, but my last 5 runs have all made at least 7, even though a couple of decks were poor. The marked decline in "buzzsaw" mages with a flurry of Fireballs/Flamestrikes/Polymorphs/Frostbolts/Water Eles has helped a lot in the later rounds.
My 0 win runs were both with Priest. I don't think the class can survive on the TGT cards alone.
I agree that mages are far weaker than before.
I will have to force myself to try out more Rogue, I always avoid the class because I swear I get offered the worst cards in the game when I select it. I have picked Warrior over Rogue because of this superstition that Rogue is cursed for me.
My highest runs have all been with Paladin. The Murloc Knight combined with good weapons in arena is insane. A single Inspire from MK is usually enough to win the game.
Nah, I figure that him knowing that he lost a drawn-out game thanks to his own dumbassery is punishment enough.
Anyone have an issue with an NVIDIA card and Windows 10 where Hearthstone loads and you can hear sound, but the screen is just brown? I have the latest NVIDIA drivers. You can even move the mouse around (and it shows the little hand) and click on things you can't see. I thought maybe it was me using DSR, but put on a normal 1080 resolution and it still does it.
BananasWithGuns
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God secret Paladin is so fucking broken.
This shit should have already been nerfed.
Maybe if it was just Mysterious Challenger it wouldn't be a big deal but having to deal with shit like Murloc Knight and Dr. Boom on top of that is just stupid.
This shit should have already been nerfed.
Maybe if it was just Mysterious Challenger it wouldn't be a big deal but having to deal with shit like Murloc Knight and Dr. Boom on top of that is just stupid.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Patron has been untouched so don't count on it, Blizzard is the worst about nerfs and being extremely stubborn and sticking to bad decisions, they always have been
Patron requires skill to play doe.
Patron is and never was anywhere near being broken in the way Secret Paladin is. Secret Paladin is extremely easy to play and maybe even one of the most forgiving decks the game has ever seen. Its effect on the meta and what people play has been overwhelming.
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