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Hearthstone |OT4| The warsong has ended, please patron other decks

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Pretty sure he only played rank to get the Warlock daily quest.

Plus the deck isn't very good either. It's just a form of Midrange Zoolock featuring Floating Watchers, Bombers and Blingtron.


The only time I expect Kripp to attempt ranked again is after TGT and even then I expect him to play some crazy deck, get a few wins going and then stop after he loses twice in a row.

Just curious why is he considered a top player if he doesn't even play rank?
 

jgminto

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New minion is kinda bad, definitely not worth 9. They could have at least made it 12 attack for a Ysera clear.

Thinking about Dreadsteed, guess Warlocks will never get charge cards that activate because it would create the easiest infinite ever.

Speaking of charge, won't Dreadsteed be the greatest Patron enabler card of all time, lol

Not really an infinite, just a full board clear. Could only do 1 damage to face.
 
New minion is kinda bad, definitely not worth 9.



Not really an infinite, just a full board clear. Could only do 1 damage to face.

Oh, yeah. That's what I meant, oops

Wait it doesn't even have charge, does it? I keep assuming it does because it's a mount in WoW, I know I mentioned an enabler for it but I am just assuming it does whenever I think of it
 
Honestly, it isn't as bad as it looks since it removes something the turn played. You can take out pretty much anything with it, so it is quite versatile.

It has obvious downsides, such as high cost, can't push lethal without silence, dies to bgh or other hard removal...

But I wouldn't call it trash tier. It really is one of the highest board control value cards in the game actually. If you're playing a fatigue deck then this card could fit well, where fights for board decide who wins and not damage to face.
 
Kripp and Brode talking on twitter whether or not Icehowl should be a Beast. The Yetis aren't but the boss fight Icehowl is from is the Beasts of Northerend in ToC, lol.
 

Ultrabum

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Well Silence removes all text.

Indeed it does. I just tested it, and you can't attack the same turn its played, never knew that. I always thought charge removed summoning sickness, and that if u silenced it it was already removed, guess not lol.

You can still play it, kill a minion, then silence next turn and hit face. Probably won't see play because of bgh.
 
Indeed it does. I just tested it, and you can't attack the same turn its played, never knew that. I always thought charge removed summoning sickness, and that if u silenced it it was already removed, guess not lol.

You can still play it, kill a minion, then silence next turn and hit face. Probably won't see play because of bgh.

I can understand thinking that, I learned Southsea Deckhand can gain and lose charge in the same turn if the weapon is used and breaks when he is played a few weeks ago.
 

dimb

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Honestly, it isn't as bad as it looks since it removes something the turn played. You can take out pretty much anything with it, so it is quite versatile.

It has obvious downsides, such as high cost, can't push lethal without silence, dies to bgh or other hard removal...

But I wouldn't call it trash tier. It really is one of the highest board control value cards in the game actually. If you're playing a fatigue deck then this card could fit well, where fights for board decide who wins and not damage to face.
It's only good board control vs. big targets though, and as it trades to remove it is going to push itself low regularly. It's also disrupted by taunt. I feel like many popular decks right now have the ability to ignore Icehowl, or quickly remove him if neccesary. A nine mana removal card also means you don't get to play something defensive, or push yourself back into a position of control. It's a very reactionary card.
 

jgminto

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I said it already but what totally kills this card for me is the 10 damage. If it had 12 damage it would at least counter the big Dragons and might get a little play if you hate dealing with Ysera specifically.
 

Dahbomb

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I just hit a Zoolock player to the face for 20 damage with Holy Wrath (he was at 19, one shot)....

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This is casual mode by the way. I was trying various anti aggro decks out and see how they stack up.


Holy Wrath deck is just a few cards from being pretty insane IMO. It's built for the Jousting mechanic. If there was a way you could get away with not having Ancient Watchers and Sunfury Protectors in the deck that is. Currently it's just a poor man, inconsistent Giant Handlock type deck. Weak to pretty much the same things and not as strong in the match ups as Handlock is. Plus loses harder to control match ups than Handlock. It has less draw but more heal than Handlock.
 

Zoggy

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so hearthstone crashed during my lethal (playing arena). then i closed it and restarted.

didn't even try to reconnect when i got back.

at least it didn't give me a loss. but still, fuck.

checked again.

i did get a loss.

i hate this game
 

Tagyhag

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Finally beat the Ragnaros expansion, and damn Blizzard took some notes from SNK in making your final boss a cheating OP fuck.

Now to just save up my money for The Grand Tournament.
 

Zoggy

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Finally beat the Ragnaros expansion, and damn Blizzard took some notes from SNK in making your final boss a cheating OP fuck.

Now to just save up my money for The Grand Tournament.

the trick was to OTK 30+ dmg in one hit so you don't have to deal with his transformations
 

Valygar

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Gaf, I'm going crazy. I'm f2p for the moment on eu but I have some low dust+naxx/brm decks which are nice (500-600 dust decks, taking some popular budget decks and changing some equivalent cards). On past seasons I've managed to get to rank 13 and stay mostly at rank 16 with worse decks.But with this season I only managed to get to rank 16 with my face hunter and some luck, most of the time I'm on 20-19 facing decks with multiple legendaries plus of course the whole naxx/brm. It is a hell of a change, all of a sudden everyone has the top decks from hearthpwn and icy veins and it is only rank 20!!
I thought it will be harder now that they will reward higher ranks but this is crazy, its like 80% of the people have p2win.
 
Gaf, I'm going crazy. I'm f2p for the moment on eu but I have some low dust+naxx/brm decks which are nice (500-600 dust decks, taking some popular budget decks and changing some equivalent cards). On past seasons I've managed to get to rank 13 and stay mostly at rank 16 with worse decks.But with this season I only managed to get to rank 16 with my face hunter and some luck, most of the time I'm on 20-19 facing decks with multiple legendaries plus of course the whole naxx/brm. It is a hell of a change, all of a sudden everyone has the top decks from hearthpwn and icy veins and it is only rank 20!!
I thought it will be harder now that they will reward higher ranks but this is crazy, its like 80% of the people have p2win.

Perhaps inactive players with better collections are activating in anticipation of the TGT expansion?
 

jgminto

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Gaf, I'm going crazy. I'm f2p for the moment on eu but I have some low dust+naxx/brm decks which are nice (500-600 dust decks, taking some popular budget decks and changing some equivalent cards). On past seasons I've managed to get to rank 13 and stay mostly at rank 16 with worse decks.But with this season I only managed to get to rank 16 with my face hunter and some luck, most of the time I'm on 20-19 facing decks with multiple legendaries plus of course the whole naxx/brm. It is a hell of a change, all of a sudden everyone has the top decks from hearthpwn and icy veins and it is only rank 20!!
I thought it will be harder now that they will reward higher ranks but this is crazy, its like 80% of the people have p2win.

You should try to identify how you're losing the most and change some cards to counter that. Like running cards that destroy weapons if they're being played a lot or something like Kezan Mystic if you're running into trap decks. There are definitely people returning with old decks so your deck is probably not tuned for them. I ran into a freaking Murlock running Leeroy and a Freeze Giant Mage one after the other!
 
Gaf, I'm going crazy. I'm f2p for the moment on eu but I have some low dust+naxx/brm decks which are nice (500-600 dust decks, taking some popular budget decks and changing some equivalent cards). On past seasons I've managed to get to rank 13 and stay mostly at rank 16 with worse decks.But with this season I only managed to get to rank 16 with my face hunter and some luck, most of the time I'm on 20-19 facing decks with multiple legendaries plus of course the whole naxx/brm. It is a hell of a change, all of a sudden everyone has the top decks from hearthpwn and icy veins and it is only rank 20!!
I thought it will be harder now that they will reward higher ranks but this is crazy, its like 80% of the people have p2win.

I got to rank 10 pretty easily and this only my first month of playing.... then now I'm at like 16.Basically going backwards everyday now. I'm about ready to end up back at like 25...

But the other day I was doing the daily quest crap with 0 dust basic decks and everyone had at least 2-3 legendary I had to win 5 games on Shaman lost my first 3. Then I just forfeit my next 5 on purpose so I get easier opponents (I'm so smart!) and won 5 straight. Lol
 

squidyj

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I'm so sick of losing my arena runs to rng bullshit.

MC tech takes my top minion out of a board of 5.
crackle hits for 3.
rag kills the minion i need to clear him, out of 3 targets.
then I brick on two draws to hex.

another game I brick 5 draws in a row to any relevant card that wins me the game. I've got 2 fire elementals al'akir, hex, shredders, sea giant, frostwolf warlord. and what do I draw? fucking puddlestomper, the 2/1 + 1/1 murloc, imp master, etc. basically the bottom of my fucking curve.

I go from ahead on board, ahead on cards ahead on life, just fucking ahead, and by a fair bit, to losing the game on the basis of a couple of dice rolls.
 

Loomba

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Fuck I was just about to buy some Amazon coins for TGT then found out they have reduced the discount from 20% to 10%. That sucks.
 

Pooya

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a 9 mana removal that can't remove everything sill. bad. If it was just 8 mana , still you could give windfury and clear couple of giant drops. I think shaman could use a new removal. With ET on it, you can still do it but it's not exactly dependable.
 

I hope he will get help after all this attention. Unless it's a publicity stunt.

Also, apparently this is a new card:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3gksm7/new_card_sea_plounderer/
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Warrior, epic 6-mana 6/7
Translation:
"When you Draw this card, deal 1 damage to all YOUR minions."
 
It's only good board control vs. big targets though, and as it trades to remove it is going to push itself low regularly. It's also disrupted by taunt. I feel like many popular decks right now have the ability to ignore Icehowl, or quickly remove him if neccesary. A nine mana removal card also means you don't get to play something defensive, or push yourself back into a position of control. It's a very reactionary card.

You can probably trade this single card for 2-3 of your opponent's cards. 2x4 attack minions + another, a 6-9 + another...

It does something strong the turn it is played, and the next turn you can drop taunt on him. Think of all the times you wished ragnaros fireball would hit the exact minion you want, even in tournaments where hitting face would be a loss but removing the minion would be preferable. Now you can remove that minion and the card will likely survive and trade for another card or removal.

He is like a board dominance card. I understand some decks will be capable of ignoring him to some extent (drop taunt on him to make him relevant towards combo decks). But that alone doesn't make him a bad card to include in the right deck. It being a reactionary card is fine, because the cards he can react well is quite wide.


All the reddit armchair doctors are out in spades it seems.
 

gutshot

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zoukka

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Blizzard heard about us joking about patron legendaries so they actually went and made a patron epic
1.0


A Boulderfist Ogre with a drawback? Yeah, no thanks.

Drawback???

You can probably trade this single card for 2-3 of your opponent's cards. 2x4 attack minions + another, a 6-9 + another...

It does something strong the turn it is played, and the next turn you can drop taunt on him. Think of all the times you wished ragnaros fireball would hit the exact minion you want, even in tournaments where hitting face would be a loss but removing the minion would be preferable. Now you can remove that minion and the card will likely survive and trade for another card or removal.

He is like a board dominance card. I understand some decks will be capable of ignoring him to some extent (drop taunt on him to make him relevant towards combo decks). But that alone doesn't make him a bad card to include in the right deck. It being a reactionary card is fine, because the cards he can react well is quite wide.

In reality though, it will only hit 1/2 belcher slimes or taunt totems.
 

Pooya

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Dealing one damage to your minions is not exactly a drawback for warrior. It seems like an unnecessary card though as you have quite a few more reliable cards for that. Maybe you can set up battle rage then draw into this for more armor or patrons mid game.

The funny part is that the card is way better than Flame Leviathan, one mana cheaper and better stats and it's for a class that could actually benefit from the effect unlike mage with a card that hits your own face too for some weird design decision and is as bad as war golem other times. Now this won't see play either but it actually makes sense.
 

Skux

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Sea Plunderer is way too inconsistent. Being able to control the 1 damage Whirlwind/Death's Bite is essential to get your Battle Rage/Patron/Berserker combos.
 
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