While true, its a common that I would expect most newer players to have crafted. Its one of the best budget late game options.
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While true, its a common that I would expect most newer players to have crafted. Its one of the best budget late game options.
O_______O currently living there. Just drastic swings in matches from pure aggro to control
Naw, I don't think so. I am rank 15 each month and use custom decks because I in no way have enough cards for netdecks. I lack all essential legendaries. But I have all adveture cards. You can get rank 15 simply with mage and adventure cards and playing well. Nowadays it's Renolock because hey, an assortment of single good cards suddenly becomes reasonable
I also crafted two Death's Bite (common) and can now play a sort of Grim Patron which is fun.
I feel the true difference is, do you pay for the adventures or not? Because so much good and uncraftable is in them and paying for them with gold takes a long long time.
edited: because bullshit is an unnecessarily strong word for differing opinions, sorry
I have most seasons given up on bothering to get to Rank 5 for that extra dust. I don't have lots of time to play Hearthstone, and I don't want to grind out the games necessary to rank up. Even when I have good win rates with the decks I'm using (New Mech Mage is doing some awesome work this season, Gorillabot MVP), I just don't care to play enough games to reach 5. I generally will hit 10 at some point and then will just play whatever for fun the rest of the season.
I fully believe I could hit 5 or legend if I simply devoted the time to it, but I'd rather play other games instead.
I fully believe I could hit 5 or legend if I simply devoted the time to it, but I'd rather play other games instead.
Servbot #42
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Pretty sure this guy's feeling mirrors a lot of people when playing vs secret paladin, including mine. Anyway this week's brawl is pretty fun.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
If Blizz really wanted Tavern Brawl to be a fun mode then the construct a deck brawls would allow you to use every card so it wouldnt be impossible for new players
Whoever designed that card really does need firing, gives you no faith they have any idea of balance.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I feel really bad for him, he gets pretty emotional over it. Also what's up with the thumbs downs on the video? Are there a lot of people that disagree that the card is broken or is that just Youtube doing its thing.
I'm sure they understand that it's frustrating for newer players to not be able to enjoy the mode to its full extent but that just means they're more likely to spend money on packs or adventures so they can.
Secredin players
platypotamus
Member
I had my best play ever against one of them earlier. I was playing a druid good stuff sort of deck, and Had him down to 1 life and his second ice block. He fireballs me in the face, putting me in the high teens, and then draws some cards. I have a full board, a pretty full hand, but my next hit from fatigue will be 6 damage (he still has 10 cards in his deck). I think to myself, that he wouldn't have fireballed my face if he wasn't going to be able to kill me next turn, so I use a Wrath to kill my own Malorne, and then play a healbot, putting me up to 23.
He plays Malygos, Faceless -> Malygoes #2, hits me in the face with a 13 damage icebolt, then fires a 13 damage arcane missile. He would have had 3 more arcane missiles to throw out if I hadn't silenced his Rhonin earlier. Despite my full board, enough of the missile he did launch hit my face that my card draw would have killed me on the start of my turn... but instead I redrew Malorne and then killed him. That felt pretty sweet.
Lol'd at the comment saying it 'broadened the deck types in the game' seeing as how Secret Paladin and Paladin in general are now basically the most prevalent class in the game across every single mode thanks to MC and newer stuff like Keeper of Uldaman.
BananasWithGuns
Member
If Freeze Mage didn't exist this Brawl would be great.
Edit: Correction, if combo decks in general didn't exist, because that's all it is now.
Edit: Correction, if combo decks in general didn't exist, because that's all it is now.
CraigerGamer
Member
Why was Forsen banned?
CraigerGamer
Member
Gotcha. He's fun to watch but his chat/subscribers are pretty damn nuts.
If Malygos, Alex, Gadgetan, Rag didn't exist then maybe.
Everyone playing Malygos OTK decks in this. Possible to lose at turn 1.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I'm glad I quickly got my win day 1, the more these brawls go the harder it becomes to get even 1 win if you're not capable of running the top decks. Yeah, there's a ton of basic and adventure cards that are pretty good, but they can't stand up to the Malygos/Alex/etc nonsense.
i was with him up until he started calling people who play secretdin homophobic slurs and said the person who designed this should be killed.
thats a little far.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Oh whoops, I closed the video before he said those things, I definitely don't approve of that. To be fair he was extremely frustrated and probably doesn't mean the things he said, but that's no excuse.
I'm sure this brawl must be harsh for newer players, but it easily let me clear the Rogue daily I had yesterday with some Dark Iron Skulker. Now that I have my free pack, I want to try some more creative decks out with some of the underused cards instead of just running to the OTK cheese.
It's also annoying that Blizz can easily adjust the stats of these cards each week in these tavern brawls, but somehow it's too confusing to do so for the main game to make the meta less stupid and thinks it's better (at least for them) to solve things by prying more money out of our wallets with new cards.
I hope there's some significant changes on the horizon.
It's also annoying that Blizz can easily adjust the stats of these cards each week in these tavern brawls, but somehow it's too confusing to do so for the main game to make the meta less stupid and thinks it's better (at least for them) to solve things by prying more money out of our wallets with new cards.
I hope there's some significant changes on the horizon.
While the homophobic stuff is not cool, yeah it's a frustrating card to play against. It's a 6 mana 6/6 that puts up to 5 mana worth of secrets without having to RNG draw them. It's a super strong card with super strong chaining of secrets. I wouldn't mind if they only let it put up two random secrets from your deck up when played.
WesternHeretic
Member
Secret Paladin wouldn't be much of problem if Paladin didn't have such a strong 1-2-3 curve. Because it would just be a solo 10-9 (after avenge + competitive spirit) and you can just BGH or whatever other removal your class might have. But if MC gets play while they already have the board then it's just lights out and hit the concede button.
MC is one of those cards where if Paladin is already winning it makes it impossible for you to come back unless you do something like (pyro>equality or equality consec > twisting nether (but too much mana), or a huge gigantic blade fury).
If they are losing then it's a 50/50 swing turn depending on do you have an answer for the 10-9. If you don't then it's a full swing turn and they now have control and if you do then game is pretty much over in your favor.
I played mainly Druid this month and I gotta say it just as bull shit as Secrets but it just a different kind of bull shit.
MC is one of those cards where if Paladin is already winning it makes it impossible for you to come back unless you do something like (pyro>equality or equality consec > twisting nether (but too much mana), or a huge gigantic blade fury).
If they are losing then it's a 50/50 swing turn depending on do you have an answer for the 10-9. If you don't then it's a full swing turn and they now have control and if you do then game is pretty much over in your favor.
I played mainly Druid this month and I gotta say it just as bull shit as Secrets but it just a different kind of bull shit.
Haunted
Member
It's true that you can get to 15 (and higher) without the strongest netdecking, but generally I think it's where I stop encountering the random decks and can "recognise" the opponent's deck list with a good degree of reliability.Naw, I don't think so. I am rank 15 each month and use custom decks because I in no way have enough cards for netdecks. I lack all essential legendaries. But I have all adveture cards. You can get rank 15 simply with mage and adventure cards and playing well. Nowadays it's Renolock because hey, an assortment of single good cards suddenly becomes reasonable
I also crafted two Death's Bite (common) and can now play a sort of Grim Patron which is fun.
I feel the true difference is, do you pay for the adventures or not? Because so much good and uncraftable is in them and paying for them with gold takes a long long time.
edited: because bullshit is an unnecessarily strong word for differing opinions, sorry
I'm proud to say that I'm still F2P on my account (save buying a single pack during the beta
) and bought all the adventures and expansion cards I own with in-game gold and the dust gotten from duplicates and I'm not an infinite arena player or anything. That said, I have been playing regularly since the beta, so I just paid Blizzard with my time instead of my money. I can only imagine how tough it would be to build a sizable collection of cards if you started playing the game at a later date and wanted to stay F2P.And it's not like I have all the cards, either. I'm still missing plenty of popular epics and only have the most crucial legendaries. Crafted Malygos most recently and Harrison Jones, Tirion Fordring and Bloodmage Thalnost are next on my list.
He had no board on turn 6 while the paladin had a taunted shredder, a weapon and a knife juggler before Dr 6 was played and he's upset that he lost?
Getting OTK by patron warrior pre-nerf, having your belcher silenced against face hunter when you finally stabilise and dying to RTH or getting comboed by a druid I can understand the frustration but with secret paladin you can react to Dr 6 on your turn. Just don't let them have board control and don't skimp on tech cards and board clears.
Besides druid and reno lock are way stronger.
Getting OTK by patron warrior pre-nerf, having your belcher silenced against face hunter when you finally stabilise and dying to RTH or getting comboed by a druid I can understand the frustration but with secret paladin you can react to Dr 6 on your turn. Just don't let them have board control and don't skimp on tech cards and board clears.
Besides druid and reno lock are way stronger.
I'm on a winstreak in the middle of 7 and hopefully can wrap it up. Haven't been playing much constructed but I'm also using Renolock.
Should be fine as long as I dodge the druid army anyway. Haaaaate that matchup.
bronkonagurski
Member
I feel like such a troll to continue playing this Brawl on my good account but man, I have some fun.
ladder is really dumb right now, I rarely played ladder this time of month before, I'm rank 1 and I get some really awful opponents. Like this zoo guy that literally donated his entire board to FoK+Blade Flurry with not playing argus on his eggs. lol. I could get legend tonight but I'm just so lazy to play this game.
aggro has gone too far...
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Sometimes your opponent has literally all the perfect answers, your Flamewaker insists on going face and your flamecannon hits the divine shield of the jouster that won his joust because your Flamewaker refused to hit him in 4 shots.
He frostbolted my manawyrm
He flamecannoned my flamewaker
He fireballed my water elemental
He flamestriked my board when I thought I finally stabilized
He got Ysera awakens when that was the only card that would have gotten him lethal that turn
And then you have to just laugh, except I don't want to laugh, I want to bash my head against the wall. He spammed sorry but I think in this case he was actually seriously sorry for the shitload of luck he had.
He frostbolted my manawyrm
He flamecannoned my flamewaker
He fireballed my water elemental
He flamestriked my board when I thought I finally stabilized
He got Ysera awakens when that was the only card that would have gotten him lethal that turn
And then you have to just laugh, except I don't want to laugh, I want to bash my head against the wall. He spammed sorry but I think in this case he was actually seriously sorry for the shitload of luck he had.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
The Paladin 10 mana murloc card is a moronic card but its truly bad because of the inclusion of Divine Favor and the fact you can have two of each. Nonsense.
This was probably the weirdest climb I've had yet.
This mage did turn 1 arcane missile to face, turn 2 mad bomber, turn 3 mad bomber. Then just chucked fireballs and shit at me while dropping stuff like loot hoarders and leper gnomes, and getting an ice block up. We're gonna be rich.
But I've seen a lot of weird shit. Multiple full blown aggro pallies(running leeroy etc), a mishmash of secrets with anyfin, hyper aggro discard zoo, overload dragon shaman(???)...i don't even know.
I'm the same though, usually get to 5 way earlier in the month, never saw how ridiculous it gets the last few days. I got to 5 anyway so...I guess I'd rather see this than normal combo druid. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯BananasWithGuns
Member
Charge in general is just a horrible mechanic and, in my opinion, it really should have no place in Hearthstone outside of stuff like Icehowl.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Rank 11 Priest mirrors where dude plays his Northshire and Power Word Shield when he has 6 cards left woohoo
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
This was pretty hilarious, thankfully I got a Frostbolt on my draw and was able to equalize the board on the next turn.
Had a question about this though:
I was hesitant on playing everything in my hand this turn, as it'd play into Flamestrike and I'd lose if he had it. On the other hand, if I didn't play everything he'd win on the board and I'd lose anyway. What would be the correct course of action here?
I ended up playing everything(frostbolted the tinkertown) and ended up winning, my logic was that if I played nothing I'd lose no matter what so I gambled it all on the fact that he didn't have flamestrike.
Also does mech mage even carry flamestrikes?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Just faced a Patron running Kor'kron, Sir Finley, Elise and fucking Magnataur Alpha. The ladder IS weird right now.
I like it
I like it
WesternHeretic
Member
Mech mage generally do not run flamestrike. And also mech mage is an aggro deck if you clear the board they will be top decking the rest of the way with no real card draw.
So you shouldn't be worried about playing around Flamestrike.
You can also see in the first picture he's going into turn 4 with 1 card in his hand. That is a sign of agression and that's he all in. Therefore doing everything you can to clear the board is the right move.
rukland
Member
I am still running the deck I posted on the last page. I hit my 30 wins in brawl again in no time. I plan to hit the 100g mark each day of this brawl. So I don't get why people think it's getting hard to win. Yeah I have lost some games but not nearly as many as the 62 wins I now have for this brawl.
just like most brawls, mage is the best class.
malygos plus duplicates and faceless is too much. i had 5 malygos' in one game.
then there's the coldarra+maiden of the lake combo, play majordomo, ping it, then DIE INSECT.
oh and on top of that, you have to kill the mage 3 times because of ice block.
edit: dreadsteed rivendare kelthuzad is pretty fun too.
malygos plus duplicates and faceless is too much. i had 5 malygos' in one game.
then there's the coldarra+maiden of the lake combo, play majordomo, ping it, then DIE INSECT.
oh and on top of that, you have to kill the mage 3 times because of ice block.
edit: dreadsteed rivendare kelthuzad is pretty fun too.
FoK, Dark Iron Skulker, Blade Flurry, Van Cleef.. sorry, Rogue is the best class for this one.
accel
Member
A neat illustration of the quality of deck building assistants like heartharena - someone ran constructed decks through it, here are the ratings:
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/433bbr/ive_run_the_top_10_ladder_decks_through_hearth/
Every single deck would likely eat arena decks for breakfast, yet the algorithm rates all of them as mediocre (just the druid deck is rated as kind of OK).
I am entering my decks on heartharena when I am playing from a phone even though I am not listening much to the suggestions, because the site shows what I picked - and I don't think any of my decks ever scored by their measure below 62-63, certainly never below 60. Yet none of my decks were even close to the constructed ones above.
Sum total: learn to build your own decks, period. The helpful algorithms are of very limited use. (FWIW, I think it is largely the same with various ranking lists.)
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/433bbr/ive_run_the_top_10_ladder_decks_through_hearth/
Every single deck would likely eat arena decks for breakfast, yet the algorithm rates all of them as mediocre (just the druid deck is rated as kind of OK).
I am entering my decks on heartharena when I am playing from a phone even though I am not listening much to the suggestions, because the site shows what I picked - and I don't think any of my decks ever scored by their measure below 62-63, certainly never below 60. Yet none of my decks were even close to the constructed ones above.
Sum total: learn to build your own decks, period. The helpful algorithms are of very limited use. (FWIW, I think it is largely the same with various ranking lists.)