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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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irfaanator
Banned
yea I think that new priest card isn't bad. It isn't a dead card against aggro/tempo and not a dead card against control so I feel like it could be a staple in a sort of midrange style priest deck
Lost against a dragon priest that had holy nova turn 5, lightbomb turn 6, another lightbomb turn 8. I thought after the first lightbomb i was safe and had a great board about to get competitive spirited, but there was no retribution. This is the real reason for standard, need to give secret paladins a chance.
lol no
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Poor secret Paladins
Can't even auto win every matchup
Can't even auto win every matchup
what? lol. funny funny joke. yeah, secret paladins are victims of priest violence
No retribution, only justice now
Another point in favor of that priest Shade, with a deathrattle you can discover it from Museum Curator. And in Standard you'll have a pretty decent chance of seeing it. In that case it sort of makes Curator a 3 for 1. 1/2 for 2, 4/3 for 4 and another card. The Value is so real!
not bad. its a mindstreal shedder.
She is actually pretty good in the deck in my experience. It can be easy to draw Map/Monkey with two Divine Favors and if the games go long she can help you get back some steam.
I do agree that there should be 2 Shredders in here though. I did not have every card in his original list so just swapped something I was missing for the other Shredder.
toddhunter
Member
3 health for 4 mana isn't dead against aggro? That is pretty dead.
I think the card is unplayable in every class, but especially priest. You already can't fit in good cards.
That said, if you steal a c'thun, does it still get buffed?
irfaanator
Banned
it's less of a dead card compared to thoughsteal against aggro
Yeah if you have Thoughtsteal against aggro that'll give you a major sad. Thoughtstealing into a leper gnome and a haunted creeper is kind of a nightmare. If you could consistently get a 1 mana 4/3 off a Thoughtsteal that would put in a much more impactful body than you usually might have otherwise. That gives the card more consistency than thoughtsteal and pulls the effect out of a niche card and puts it into something that's a bit more general purpose.
Don't worry, shadow word: horror should make up for loosing light bomb /s
Lightbomb is not overpowered. You're typically using you're entire turn playing it and it has the potential to wipe your own board. It's not hard to play around, but with this meta where you vomit your entire hand by turn 6, it's the opponents's fault for playing into it.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
why is khadgar's portrait so shitty?
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
I read that his portrait is not shaded, which is why it looks off.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
I hate when I can't do basic ass math and it costs me a game. Didn't have the 2 mana I needed to play Iron Beak Owl.
Shit makes me feel stupid as hell sometimes.
Shit makes me feel stupid as hell sometimes.
irfaanator
Banned
yea honestly I feel the card is supposed to be a nice card to get from curator as ppl said for a 4 drop and it feels like a very split 50/50 tempo vs control card. It kinda helps in all matchups but obviously isn't the most optimal choice when against a certain matchup
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I know how you feel, one game I thought I had lethal but I didn't realize I had 9 mana not 10.
Still, after like 2 months of feeling like I wasn't getting any better I feel like I'm actually learning from my mistakes and making better plays.
It's MUCH worse when you try to show off an end up missing lethal because you can't count to 10.
Not that I've ever had that happen...
Except that 99% of priest minions have more health than damage so it does nothing to them.
I'm sorry, I don't agree with this at all.
I would say I play Lightbomb to stabilize the board and it usually costs me both Tempo (initiative) and my turn. It's mostly a reset button.
True, there are times when I have minions survive, but unless you follow with CoH (or LoN / hero power), they're severely weakened. Not to mention, it's also just as likely that my opponent has creatures left as well.
The loss of Lightbomb hurts and I have doubts about the future of the priest class. But maybe the meta slown a bit now. LB wasn't OP. It was what Priest needed to survive. It still wasn't enough to make Priest competitive, that didn't come until the addition of Entomb.
Karsticles
Member
They could program it to Discover at the start of your next turn. It's just plain poor design born from incredibly bad taste in game mechanics.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Priest will be okay I think. Excavated Evil is a pretty good card that isn't being run right now and if the meta slows down enough to the point where Priest can actually run a Mind Control again they'll be dominating control matchups just fine.
Priest now has a late game option where they could fill the board easily with
-Museum Curator
-Shifting Shade
-Sylvanas
And n'zoth
Shifting shade could be a decent replacement for thought steal, when even though you can only gain 1 card that is always a minion, you still will get a body.
Now, I don't think that lightbomb will be replaced by excavated evil at all. With LB you could stand a change against secret paladin or handlock, with excavated evil you wouldn't
-Museum Curator
-Shifting Shade
-Sylvanas
And n'zoth
Shifting shade could be a decent replacement for thought steal, when even though you can only gain 1 card that is always a minion, you still will get a body.
Now, I don't think that lightbomb will be replaced by excavated evil at all. With LB you could stand a change against secret paladin or handlock, with excavated evil you wouldn't
did I read it wrong, because I thought it just said a caard, didn't say a minion card
Why does Tomb Pillager get to be a 5/4 get a coin? Does Deathrattle: get an essentially random card, not valued the same? How about Battlecry: get a card from your opponents deck.
My bad, don't know why I read that it was only a minion
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Yeah I've definitely gotten better since I started playing, which makes bonehead decisions hurt that much more.
That's pretty much what happened. Had lethal if I silenced the Belcher...instead I wanted to see what I would get out of the Knife Juggler into Unleash the Hounds....oh whoops I can't silence the fucking Belcher now because I have 1 mana.
bronkonagurski
Member
I've been playing for like a year now but I still have those embarrassing brain farts sometimes. FeelsBadMan.
The new priest card is pretty good, but it just feels like with the lack of shredder in standard, yeti or yeti-esque cards are going to be really powerful. Add that silences may be nerfed in some way, and buffing the yeti and continuing to pump value from it may be better than the semi-thoughtsteal. Compare Druid's Klaxi-Amber Weaver to this and be disappointed.
Outside of Yeti, what other 5 hp cards are people going to play turn 4? Will people even play Yeti? So far the only new 4 mana cards shown that would survive after trading with it are master of evolution, that the 4 mana divine shield card, and the druid c'thun card.
druid class card
toddhunter
Member
I think the problem is more that it doesn't necessarily survive trading with a 1 drop.
The question then is what priest card 4 drop are you replacing? In dragon, control or combo, there isn't an option.
Needed to be a 3.
Brofist
Member
Lightbomb is OP as fuck. It punishes every single deck from face aggro crap to control decks. Holy Nova and Excavated Evil are more than enough to deal with decks that dump everything on the board. Don't even get me started on the shit card that is Entomb.
Note I'm not saying that those cards make Priest as a class OP, cause it's still low tier garbage.
call_kotaku
Member
just played an elise warrior who got up to over 50 armor, played golden monkey after he drew his last card, and then played majordomo the next turn.
I BGHed it and he lost, I honestly don't understand.
I BGHed it and he lost, I honestly don't understand.
