call_kotaku
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they balanced evolve by making shaman minions so good that you wouldn't want to transform them
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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toddhunter
Member
5-0 so far with bolster. Beat beast hunter, two zoolocks, a druid c'thun and a control paladin so it seems like it works well enough in the meta and is fun to play. Only the control paladin ran silence, and only one, so bolster really puts in work.
2x shield slam
2x war axe
2x bolster
2x slam
2x armorsmith
2x tidehunter
2x sparring partner
2x shield block
2x monkey
1x ghoul
2x bloodhoof brave
2x infested tauren
1x brawl
1x emperor
1x sylvanas
1x gorehowl
1x chromaggus
1x rag
1x Varian
2x shield slam
2x war axe
2x bolster
2x slam
2x armorsmith
2x tidehunter
2x sparring partner
2x shield block
2x monkey
1x ghoul
2x bloodhoof brave
2x infested tauren
1x brawl
1x emperor
1x sylvanas
1x gorehowl
1x chromaggus
1x rag
1x Varian
haha that looks fun and super frustrating to play against. Going to have to try it
toddhunter
Member
Just beat the same guy twice...he was playing that rusty hook face warrior deck.
I wish I could taste the salt.
I'm surprised blizzard didn't make shadowstep 1 mana or take away the reduction of the card it's used on. Clearly they had to have known people were going to shadowstep gods right? With n'zoth is is crazy using him and instantly filling your board and then shadowstepping him back to do it again
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Don't you need more card draw in that deck? Maybe I'm wrong but battle rage seems good.
Priest is one of the few classes that can really shut down Aggro Shaman hard, so not sure what game you're playing exactly. I thought they couldn't possibly get any more healing than they already had, but they went full retard.
does he stream? i really liked his rogue at the championships
Not that I know of, he has a stream but it's not really active
BananasWithGuns
Member
From the subreddit.
toddhunter
Member
Not really. You are just dropping taunt after taunt, so card draw would just fatigue you with Varian.
Infernodash
Member
You forget to preface this by saying you practically have to dedicate six cards to accomplish this and have a great draw. If you don't have SWH or Soul Circle then the game is over after the evolve hits. Please don't spread misinformation. Kthxbye.
love his reaction to brann dying and then coming back only to get polymorphed. Praise be to yogg indeed. Yogg seems like a fun thing to do with friends.
I saw spreading madness played once, and every single bolt hit my board/face. Not a single one hit him at all.
I hope that is the last time I ever see that card.
EU season ended a few hours ago.
I feel like this is going to get a lot of use in this thread.
The best thing about this is actually the 1-in-7 frostbolt that hits his opponent's face. If that had missed he wouldn't have had lethal.
Karsticles
Member
The best way to understand Blizzard is by understanding that these things are not thought through or observed beforehand.
Hahahaha, no. Aggro Shaman is Priest's worst matchup right now. They have no good taunt options. Just think back to what happened to Priests pre-Standard when they didn't get Deathlord vs. an aggro deck. That's...every match now.
Different servers.
Which is an odd considering they had the foresight to make the toxin that does the exact same thing cost 1. The second we saw the old gods we all discussed shadowstep, how they didn't nerf it to 1 is crazy. still playable and stops dumb shit with the gods from happening
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think they wanted the ability to shadowstep gods. Besides, hasn't rogue suffered enough? Shadowstep is a barely used card anyway. Paladin gets to revive tirion, why can't rogue use nzoth twice?
LyleLanley
Banned
Councilman is some bullshit. If you can't kill it right away you're kind of fucked.
A lot of times people are scared to use removal on something that cost 3, but on that thing, you have to do it with impunity
BananasWithGuns
Member
Was there anyone that predicted how insane Councilman would be?
I wasn't sure what to think of the card but in no way would I have thought it'd be as ridiculous as it is.
I wasn't sure what to think of the card but in no way would I have thought it'd be as ridiculous as it is.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
There's plenty of low cost high priority minions like that though. Flamewaker, new Paladin 3, frothing, etc.
I guess maybe cause he comes down as a one and many might still have not seen him yet, so they don't think much of it and then the next turn forbidden ritual happens and they hate their life
well, at least dahbomb and zealous can check that one off from the re review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg6OClo0yHs#t=28m49s
That's his review. Basically "herp derp Questing Adventurer".
We did a bit better, although we didn't call that it was going to be the best card in the new zoo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPxSMR9ZTG8#t=22m41s
Best card in new Zoo is Forbidden Ritual.
That is what enables new Zoo. It enables free board presence out of no where, massive Knife Juggler juggles and massive Councilman.
It's fine using removal on Councilman. That deck's biggest threats are Councilman and Sea Giants. After that you have Imp Gang Bosses and Knife Jugglers in terms of threat priority... the rest are weeny minions.
And since people figured that out, Zoolock has been doing worse on ladder lately at least in my experience.
That is what enables new Zoo. It enables free board presence out of no where, massive Knife Juggler juggles and massive Councilman.
It's fine using removal on Councilman. That deck's biggest threats are Councilman and Sea Giants. After that you have Imp Gang Bosses and Knife Jugglers in terms of threat priority... the rest are weeny minions.
And since people figured that out, Zoolock has been doing worse on ladder lately at least in my experience.
Agreed, you need both to go hand in had and are equally important to each other being useful
New Zoo would've worked without Councilman (less big burst damage though) but it would've been far, far worse without Forbidden Ritual.
No easy Gormoks, no easy Sea Giants, no easy Reliquary Seekers (if you run those), no big Juggles, no big Councilman, no easy buff targets etc.
It puts the Flood in Flood Zoo.
BigJonsson
Member
The Priest C'Thun deck recipe is fun to play, just build that monster fast and hope you get to play Twin Emperor, the minion that heals you for 10 and then drop C'Thun and end it all
I think you'd probably have a different deck without either one. Old Zoo had similar token potential with Implosion but flood variants with Gormok and Reliquary Seeker were less popular. Darkshire Councilman is what really rewarded the flood archetype in particular and Forbidden Ritual was the gas that made it work, despite the fact that the card is probably not as good on average as Implosion..
That's what put down my arena run at only 8 wins. 5 health can be so awkward to take out if you don't have the right tools.
toddhunter
Member
The great bolster run ended at 11-1. Finally got beat by a priest due to entomb and a really crappy varian draw. The priest also ran silence, which is a key card. That said, with a bit of luck earlier in the game I could have squeaked it out.
So I declare the deck viable in this meta. If aggro gets out of control I'll bring it out again.
Might try some sort of combo priest next.
So I declare the deck viable in this meta. If aggro gets out of control I'll bring it out again.
Might try some sort of combo priest next.
LyleLanley
Banned
I feel like it's too easy to get C'thun to 10 attack and get all his minions buffs going.
Flamewreathed Faceless is no match for the mighty Ozze!
seeing the cute art on some of the cards (specially the vilefin murloc silver hand recruits), I want to see a murloc with a shield
2 CATHOON CATHOON CATHOONs and he's already good to go. It's pretty trivial.
It really is, but I have had a few games where it was turn 6 or 7 and they still didn't have 10 attack. Bit Akward to see only one of the twin emperors.
Most of his minions are individually unimpressive and wouldn't be run in similar decks if not for those minion buffs, though. Even a card like Disciple of C'thun, arguably the best neutral C'Thun minon, does not see play outside of C'Thun decks. So as a reward for running sub-optimal minions, you have to get rewarded some other way, and simply buffing C'Thun isn't enough. Most games you don't even get to play him.
Disciple of Cthun sees play in that Aggro Divine shield Paladin deck. It's in many cases better than Argent Horserider because you can play it after Darkshire, do the 2 damage and still have a Divine Shield minion up for further synergies.
Easily the best neutral Cthun enabler though. The others are pretty mediocre/average... I think the next best one is the 4 mana 4/2 Divine Shield.
Easily the best neutral Cthun enabler though. The others are pretty mediocre/average... I think the next best one is the 4 mana 4/2 Divine Shield.