GwyndolinCinder
Member
ngl if yogg doesnt fuck off, i'm back out of hearthstone i hadnt played since standard was announced, but losing 10minute+ games cause of that card isnt fun in the slightest
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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It was your fault...
hypersheep
Member
Frodan just lost a game to a Malygos Yogg hunter because Malkorok gave him Cursed blade lol.
Still very much alive and hitting face.
The power level is so much lower than what it used to be though.
hypersheep
Member
So apparently a redemption'd C'thun has all of its stats instead of being 1 hp.
toddhunter
Member
I have played around with some different beast hunter ideas and I think it is a very strong card, winning me several games.
However I'm not sure it'll find its way into the strongest overall deck once the dust settles. The problem is basically the twin emperors. They are so easy to trigger and basically stop the card completely dead.
It's not a win button. It just offers insane value for one card and guarantees the Leokk effect + 5 charge damage with huffer.
Its really stron against Zoo right now
It's the worst card they've ever made IMO, everything wrong with the game boiled down to one card, the fact it got through is just incredible.
There is no escape... not in this life... not in the next...
Nah it's a 10-mana "a lot of random shit happens" card.
It's nothing compared to straight up OP cards like MC that are annoying and overpowered every time.
That's weird logic. Yogg sometimes fucks you over, costs 10 so it's not even played every match it is drawn and often loses the game for your opponent. Dr. Boom was way worse and Shredder too and you saw those cards every game in every deck.
I'd rather get fucked by Yogg 10 times over before seeing another MC or pre-nerf Undertaker.
If we should rank cancer-metas by level of cancer, who would win? I can think of:
* Undertaker Hunter
* Patron Warrior
* Face Hunter
* Secret Paladin
If we go back to closed beta you'll see stuff like giants OTK, but what came between that and Undertaker? Mech Mage?
I think Undertaker Hunter takes the cake.
If we should rank cancer-metas by level of cancer, who would win? I can think of:
* Undertaker Hunter
* Patron Warrior
* Face Hunter
* Secret Paladin
If we go back to closed beta you'll see stuff like giants OTK, but what came between that and Undertaker? Mech Mage?
I think Undertaker Hunter takes the cake.
toddhunter
Member
Patron took skill to play well, but it took zero skill to win with, which was the problem.
Undertaker was some next level shit.
Undertaker was some next level shit.
That makes no sense.
toddhunter
Member
In the time you had, it was very difficult to construct just the right play to make use of all your cards, the whirlwinds, charging minions and the patrons. It was a difficult puzzle against the clock while your opponent tried to stop you with counter plays.
Or you could just go "fuck it" and assume you had a shitload of damage and would win.
And you did.
Except all time when you didn't and lost the game because of it.
There is a reason why the averange winrate amoung legend players with the deck was below 50%.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
There was a high skill ceiling, but you didnt need to be anywhere near that ceiling to win games.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Unstable Portal is much worse RNG because it affects the early game and allows you to snowball out of control, Yogg never really does anything of value. Sure it's annoying when he does make you lose but fuck it's a 10 mana card it's okay for it to do that sometimes.
It's going to eventually stop seeing play as people get more bored of it and realize they kind of want to reliably win games, can't say that about other random crap like Portal and KJ.
It's going to eventually stop seeing play as people get more bored of it and realize they kind of want to reliably win games, can't say that about other random crap like Portal and KJ.
But you didn't get an insane winrate with the deck unless you were good. You were just another pleb like everyone else.
Unlike with pre-nerf Hunter decks or Secret Paladin. Those require little planning and execution and you will have a good winrate just by choosing that deck.
Azure Drake is generally agreed to be a well balanced card. But I'm sure someone has bitched about it.
Power Word: Tentacles
Oh, wait, seriously?
Yeah, Azure Drake is a really good example. Maybe Tazdingo or Cairne?
LucidMomentum
Member
Tuskarr gives me Flametongue, Drop a Spell Damage totem for my Thunderbluff Valiant to buff everything, and then drop Thing From Below.
Welcome to Value Town.
Welcome to Value Town.
toddhunter
Member
Two reasons sprint to mind. Everybody else was playing Patron Warrior and getting to legend is less about skill and more about playing Patron Warrior.
RIP rogue if more people start playing patron, you can't clear them anymore without flurry.
I've seen quite a few today and it's honestly a very good deck right now. I think it still needs refinements, like you probably need a third weapon. It performs very well against other popular decks like zoo, any c'thun deck really and even shaman isn't bad. Looking at streamers, rank 4 and better already, there are a lot of patron games.
I've seen quite a few today and it's honestly a very good deck right now. I think it still needs refinements, like you probably need a third weapon. It performs very well against other popular decks like zoo, any c'thun deck really and even shaman isn't bad. Looking at streamers, rank 4 and better already, there are a lot of patron games.
It's because I dared to play Patron Warrior. Every time I pull out that deck it's fucking Anduin fiesta day. I hate that smarmy asshole to my core.
Don't know why people are acting like Hunter is completely dead or a shit class. I've had some pretty good sucess with my hunter list. I have a couple flex spots (experimenting with snipe) but there's just so many games that I won by playing Call of the Wild.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
What kind of games are you even losing against that thing, with what type of RNG?
Like 80% of the time it's 10 mana clear the board and draw a few cards, putting it on the same exact level as DOOM!, except with large chance of backfiring and not that big of chance of insane things like double call of the wilds.
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
patron was so bad at the weekend tournies though, population might go down.
Real talk: Zoo is probably best deck at the moment.
I don't find them to be a problem yet. Pre-standard had easier ways to flood the board. Now it's just 2-4 Patrons which isn't too hard to clear with a bit of spell damage.
+ Miracle still run a copy of Blade Flurry in some cases.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I hate that card it already cantrips with decent stats, no need for spell damage.
SonicXtreme
Member
Win 11 was against a priest; I have no freaking clue how he got there but he coined a cultist on t2, and I answered with the 4 random damage to kill it and a 1 mana ancient shade that I hid behind mirror image to win by t6. Mirror image is an amazing arena card and I credit many of my 7+ runs to it. It's not even a bad t1 drop if it's all you have.
Final boss dropped a faceless summoner that got him frothing berserker behind my two mirror images LOL, then he had a questing adventurer pop out of one that he got to ten attack -_-