Control Priest shouldn't be that good against Patron, at least if they aren't running Excavated Evil.
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
- Thread starter ZealousD
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Those greedy fucks all run Excavated Evil, who are you fucking kidding? I wouldn't hate Priest so much if I didn't play literally half my games against that bitch.
It's more or less the bottom tier class so I'm totally fine with facing as many Priests as possible.
Maybe I just need to grind my way out of the dumpster ranks with Aggro Shaman so that I can switch to Patron and feed on the meta decks. The heavy control presence in the 20-15 bracket hasn't changed a bit.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Excavated Evil is a dumb card, shuffling it into the opponent's deck isn't even a downside.
It's not supposed to be a downside, it's supposed to counter aggro decks.
The downside is the symmetrical effect like Hellfire. Hellfire does damage to self too (which is very important when playing Handlock I can tell you that much) which is why it costs the 4 mana. EE puts the card in their deck.
However, EE is a considerable liability in a long drawn out game that will go into fatigue. That's an extra card you are giving them that could turn into an extra Legendary from Elise.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Against those decks it should be a dead card anyway.
So the card is working exactly as designed.
RecRoulette
Member
Messing around with Evolve and a 1 cost for this brawl. When my minion got to 5-cost, Naga. Fuck that.
Edit: Evolve and Bilefin Tidehunter it is then.
Edit: Evolve and Bilefin Tidehunter it is then.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
When you're playing N'Zoth Pally they can be the bane of your existence.
At least you aren't playing the deck in the tournament scene right now where people are bringing combo decks that take out a Nzoth Paladin from 30 HP.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
idk the last couple days were either perfectly lethal aggro, tiresome warrior or unbeatable priest.
I fell all the way back to 17.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
oh I just hate the card from a basic design perspective, nothing to do with the NZoth Pally Priest matchup.
RecRoulette
Member
Well, going to use Warper/Leaper to grind gold in this Brawl. Sorry randoms.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I'm a little curious about this as well. I've played a lot of control paladin so I'm not sure how EE fits in the post-QM paladin vs priest meta.
I can see why entomb is potentially an infuriating card to go up against. But EE just ends up being a dead draw, but at least you're not deeper into fatigue.
Either way, I love seeing priest on ladder now, because the rogue match up vs priest remains solidly in the rogue's corner. I actually did lose once to priest because c'thun board cleared and I was 2 off lethal as a result. But I think that was more or less an odd result.
RecRoulette
Member
Mech Warper + Metaltooth Leaper is definitely the best combo.
Game ends by turn 3 (coin) or 4. When you have 3 Mech Warpers, you play when you have 3 Mana available and unload everything.
Otherwise, for a neutral setup, Murloc Tidecaller and Grimscale Oracle work.
If you hate aggro, then a Priest with Doomsayer + Resurrect sometimes works. The other is Paladin with Humility + Forbidden Healing.
Mill Druid with Innverate/Naturalize + Coldlight Oracle is a counter for slow decks.
If you hate decks that rely on spells, then a Druid with Innervate + Loatheb works.
Game ends by turn 3 (coin) or 4. When you have 3 Mech Warpers, you play when you have 3 Mana available and unload everything.
Otherwise, for a neutral setup, Murloc Tidecaller and Grimscale Oracle work.
If you hate aggro, then a Priest with Doomsayer + Resurrect sometimes works. The other is Paladin with Humility + Forbidden Healing.
Mill Druid with Innverate/Naturalize + Coldlight Oracle is a counter for slow decks.
If you hate decks that rely on spells, then a Druid with Innervate + Loatheb works.
warper/iron sensei >>>>
irfaanator
Banned
lol i dont think it's better than mech leaper but it's hella funny. I just did a quick 5 rogue one w/ that and only lost to the yshaarj druid that got it out turn 1
its more rock paper scissors than anything.
some combos seem unbeatable then have a hard counter to them, which also has a hard counter which is weak to the first combo you saw.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I've had most success still with Innervate Dr. Boom. It can slow down Mechwarper enough if you get it down turn 1, it beats naturalize and coldlight and most other tactics, since you're ok with drawing, wrathing, trading,... Haven't met much Ice Block yet though.
I think you can extend this to Mech Warper + Gorillabot.
Iron Sensei is too slow.
Hm. I'll give it a try. Sounds way too conditional though where as aggro will win most of the time.
irfaanator
Banned
The place where sensei shines is that the +2 health to warpers make them obnoxious to remove for the opponent. I've also had ppl just concede when they probably had a chance to win. Like against a bolster warrior he had 4 dummies out by turn 2 w/ a bolster and couldve won but decided to just concede
Just played an ice block mage with Dr. Boom Druid. Seems fairly reliable.
Annoying, but you just have to rely on the opponent for not drawing any more ice blocks.
I guess Tavern Brawl is an excuse to not dust your old cards yet.
Doesn't work well if the other person is playing warpers, too.
Annoying, but you just have to rely on the opponent for not drawing any more ice blocks.
I guess Tavern Brawl is an excuse to not dust your old cards yet.
Doesn't work well if the other person is playing warpers, too.
irfaanator
Banned
yea definitely not
Counter to the Warper decks are the Doomsayer/Frost Nova/Flame Leviathan decks.
You can also out race those decks with a Priest deck that uses the 1 drop Bomber and Mind Blasts. That deck pretty much kills by turn 4 no matter what.
The Darkshire Librarian/Fist of Jaraxxus deck is also pretty strong though it's a bit RNG dependent.
You can also out race those decks with a Priest deck that uses the 1 drop Bomber and Mind Blasts. That deck pretty much kills by turn 4 no matter what.
The Darkshire Librarian/Fist of Jaraxxus deck is also pretty strong though it's a bit RNG dependent.
Most aggressive decks beat it, they eventually run out of Ice Blocks to play. Like some of these decks can kill you by turn 4 and against that they are basically playing Ice Block every turn just to survive.
Honestly it's not too different from Frost Nova.
The Forbidden Heal Paladin deck or the Light of Naaru Priest deck beats it too.
Weird. I'm unable to play. First game of the day and it wouldn't find a game so I relaunched. Now it's stuck on "You were reconnected to your last game. Resuming..." except it never resumes. And it pops up every time I reboot the game. It's been stuck for a while now. I also probably lost my win streak. 
Had two 6/4 frothing beserker behind two taunts, he has one flamewaker.
He casts an excavating evil he got from a spellslinger then clears the two taunts and then the flamewaker hits both frothings.
I mean what the fuck. Some games are just straight up bullshit. No matter how you play you just get fucked by RNG. Some games are 100% unwinnable.
He casts an excavating evil he got from a spellslinger then clears the two taunts and then the flamewaker hits both frothings.
I mean what the fuck. Some games are just straight up bullshit. No matter how you play you just get fucked by RNG. Some games are 100% unwinnable.
That's why you play zoo.
Innervate + Chillmaw shuts down that Hunter combo. About as fun as it sounds unfortunately.
toddhunter
Member
Best brawl ever. Won 9 in a row with frost bolt + ice block. My opponent conceded 8 times on the first secret.
Doesn't sound like the best brawl to me.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Alright this kind of hard counters my upgrade + heroic strike strat lol.
toddhunter
Member
That is why I switched to frost bolt
Looks like upgrade is the thing right now.All about that cash
Keyser Soze
Member
I like Deadly Poison + Buccaneer
Not a insta win combo, but good fun
Not a insta win combo, but good fun
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I liked forbidden shaping and light of naaru for this brawl, but then I saw someone playing rogue dropping a mech warper and went uh oh. Of course next turn he plays another mech warper and from there a bunch of iron sensei started buffing the board.
Ban mech warper lol
Ban mech warper lol
RumblingRosco
Member
No problem!
Loatheb + Innervate is such a douche combo, but I still laugh every time. Also, it is hard countered by the Mechwarper shit.