Mobius and pet octopus
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I dunno about that. I'm 4-3 atm playing a c'thun tempo mage deck I threw together. I think against secret paladin I had to play real decks to go positive vs them.
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I dunno about that. I'm 4-3 atm playing a c'thun tempo mage deck I threw together. I think against secret paladin I had to play real decks to go positive vs them.
Karsticles
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I can control the board, but then the Doomhammer combo ends the game...every damn time.
I went mostly positive against Secret Paladins, in contrast.
you still playing hunter with mad scientist back then boy lol
Mobius and pet octopus
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You might need to tech against shaman, like hunter was pretty good against secret paladin. Dropping an ooze or harrison can improve the match up, depending on your deck.
So when is Leeroy Jenkins getting his next nerf? Miracle Rogue is one thing. But I just did 24 Burst to this mid-range shaman. Everything drew into my hand in the first few turns, one Thaurissan tick and a turn later, 8 Mana 24 Damage combo. Dude had the board controls with a few 7 mana minions and everything too. It almost just... did not feel good. Felt like cheating. We all know how much Blizzard hates charge now too.
The other guy said "That's incredible!". So that's why I'm still playing it...
Death to Freeze Mage too then I guess.
They're waiting for Thaur to rotate.
poppedcollar69
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too bad bliz removed the sorry emote eh???
Yup, they won't be nerfing it, their response will just be "wait till it rotates"
Karsticles
Member
Well yeah, it's a reflection on a past state of the game.
I totally agree. I wish I had Harrison.
BigJonsson
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So what seem to be the best decks in the new meta?
Karsticles
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Aggro Shaman.
Midrange Shaman.
BigJonsson
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Shamanstone?
Karsticles
Member
Basically. Everything else is either an old goodie (Zoolock, Freeze Mage, Miracle Rogue) or a N'Zoth deck. There's been talk about Tempo Warrior, but I still haven't fought one, so I won't comment on its strength. I believe it got banned at today's tournament, so there must be something good there.
BigJonsson
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So Shaman got Innervate now? lol
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/decks/aggro-shaman-standard-meta-snapshot-may-18-2016
Looks similar to the older aggro shaman =/
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/decks/aggro-shaman-standard-meta-snapshot-may-18-2016
Looks similar to the older aggro shaman =/
not only that, it's 6 of them, lol
The one mana difference is pretty big. For Warlock, you'd need to hit two combo pieces instead of one with Thaurissan to play it at ten mana and you can't play Rocketeer/Faceless without a buff like you can with Leeroy. Warrior that runs Leeroy would also require Thaurissan if they used Rocketeer. The higher mana cost makes it clunkier to combo with spells in Rogue and it would probably be better to play the Southsea Deckhand variant of Miracle if you don't have Leeroy.
Isn't that druid only?
Thanks. Yeah I think it'd be that 1 mana difference too.
I keep seeing these Priests run Forbidden Shaping and I don't get it. Seems like every time I see it the Priest just holds it for a random 8 drop. If you always hold it for 8 mana why even play the card?
I told you guys!
I told you guys!
I'm surprised it didn't find a home in reno. But yeah, even I was guilty of thinking that card would be great for locks
I said when it was first revealed that it probably would have been good enough if all spells were effected that turn but the effect just isn't consistent enough otherwise. Maybe if Warlock gets better high cost spells that don't ruin your board in the future, but if you have to play your Siphon Soul before you draw Cho'gall you basically just put a War Golem in your deck.
what rank are you? saw plenty of tempo warriors when I was rank 5-4, they've fallen off a bit now that I'm pushing on 2.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I've played against lot of tempo warrior tonight, also just a elise warrior, combo warriors too.
It's surprisingly easy for a new player to dismiss the possibility of poor play and assume that it is the quality of cards your opponent has that causes losses.
But it is really hard for me to figure out what it is I'm doing wrong. Playing Shengs basic no dust paladin deck. Put down minions on the first three turns. Sometimes it gives me board control and sometimes they wipe me out and have my health well on its way down. It feels random and not in my control whether or not i do well.
I know it isn't random, and I'm going to go back over Trump's beginner videos. But it is tough not to resort to the idea that if i just had more cards i would be better.
I did buy LOE, but i don't really know where to fit those cards into my decks when i lack so many classic cards.
But it is really hard for me to figure out what it is I'm doing wrong. Playing Shengs basic no dust paladin deck. Put down minions on the first three turns. Sometimes it gives me board control and sometimes they wipe me out and have my health well on its way down. It feels random and not in my control whether or not i do well.
I know it isn't random, and I'm going to go back over Trump's beginner videos. But it is tough not to resort to the idea that if i just had more cards i would be better.
I did buy LOE, but i don't really know where to fit those cards into my decks when i lack so many classic cards.
you said you got the whole LoE?
Keeper of Uldaman is a damn good card for turning small dudes medium or turning your opponents huge minions into something far more manageable. I don't know what the decklist is exactly so I don't know what you'd want to cut for them but they should be able to do some work.
Depending on the number and purpose of battlecries in your deck you might also want to slot in brann bronzebeard.
Keeper of Uldaman is a damn good card for turning small dudes medium or turning your opponents huge minions into something far more manageable. I don't know what the decklist is exactly so I don't know what you'd want to cut for them but they should be able to do some work.
Depending on the number and purpose of battlecries in your deck you might also want to slot in brann bronzebeard.
FormallyFamicom
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A big part of success in constructed is understanding what your opponent is playing. Maybe you don't have the cards to play the top netdecks, but it is still very much worth your time to look up the top meta decks and check some videos on how they are played, so you can better play around them.
At lower ranks where people just run whatever sometimes, yeah it can feel kinda random though. That feeling can be overcome with experience, and just better understanding the cards in the game. I played a lot of Arena just to get used to all of the cards in the game, I still recommend it even if you can only win 2-3 games.
https://manacrystals.com/deck_guides/73-sheng-s-starter-basic-token-paladin-0-dust
I'm not necessarily expecting much, and if it is a case where the deck just can't get past a certain rank i can deal with that i suppose. I just couldn't tell what i was doing wrong when things were going super bad early. And i don't want to assume it is just the cards because I'm guessing someone who is way better than me could do better than i was doing.
Karsticles
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I was rank 5, but I've fallen to rank 7 trying to make Dragon Priest work. -_- No tempo warriors on the journey up or down, though.
The bolded is not untrue.
Just post the deck, we can tell you where to add cards, but yeah, keeper should 100% be in your paladin deck. specially with so many flamewreaths and huge cthuns going around
Really surprised. Tempo Warrior is probably the second most popular deck in my experience around that range.
Karsticles
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Blizzard matchmaking? Who knows! More than half of my opponents are Shaman.
Karsticles
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Get wrecked, Hunters!
FTFY
Karsticles
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