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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
- Thread starter ZealousD
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What was his health at? 15 or 16 turn 3? Freeze mage greed against aggressive decks is pretty suicidal.
yeah freeze mage got greedy and got fucked up. what a dumbass.
bunbun777
Member
Got to rank 6 mostly with tempo warrior. Played a little mid range hunter, and my favorite, yogg mage. Three times today I've got to where my next game will be a win streak to rank 5 but then the rug gets pulled out from under. Really liking warrior, made a gold malkorok. Actually all cards are gold except varian and cairne.
Reynad just erased all doubt that he deliberately plays up his poor RNG luck for YouTube hits. I already suspected as much but the latest Salty Sunday clip that TempoStorm put up just clinched it. He is staring at a 50/50 Rag play and literally concedes before even playing it out.
Not going to be a sucker for this shit anymore.
Not going to be a sucker for this shit anymore.
Karsticles
Member
Watching competitive Hearthstone for the first time, and I see that double PO on Leeroy just to break Ice Block. 
Watching competitive Hearthstone for the first time, and I see that double PO on Leeroy just to break Ice Block.
all those guys suck at zoo lol
I'm doing poorly (sub 50%) against Priest. Midrange shaman. Midrange hunter. Control warrior.
My best match ups are mage, zoo, aggro shaman, rogue and paladin. Not seeing many of those anymore, though.
Its all shaman and hunter lately.
If I had more time to play early this season when zoo, pally and rogue were prevalent, maybe I'd be higher ranked. Sadly, the meta shifted.
Competitive meta is so much more diverse and interesting (to me) than ladder right now it's not even funny. Say what you want about the ladder system, the key issue is that that ruleset is straight up unavailable to the regular player. After over two years it's time for a proper bo3 ladder.
Well of course it's more diverse and interesting when you have to bring in 4 decks and you can ban one. A lot of strategy and decision goes into managing all of that even before a game is played out.
Ladder just rewards using the most efficient single deck.
not for you.
why the fuck that face shaman giving of lethal lmao
Yeah whatever boy, their deck reliance to snowball or dead..
Now I think about it Reno mage is pretty cool tho
Yeah whatever boy, their deck reliance to snowball or dead..
Now I think about it Reno mage is pretty cool tho
Yeah that's what I'm saying. In any other game you're just a few clicks away from playing with the professional ruleset or at worst a slightly more limited version of it. Even custom tournament modes have been a common feature for decades, meanwhile HS keeps pushing and funding the competitive angle a lot when it's almost a different game from what's available to the actual playerbase.
13 health with 6 on board and a ton of burn in your deck that you can pick up next turn with life tap.
6 on board, a knife juggler being part of that, play an abusive/dwarf and that's as much as 9, your opponent has been holding a card all game, what if it's PO? 9 + 4 = 13.
You're guessing what's in your opponents hand and there's a card he either couldn't or wouldn't play which means it's 100% a giant or a damage source. if it's a damage source you risk losing on the spot. you run a bunch of damage in your deck and you can get 2 draws to find it.
if you guess that the card is damage and you're wrong you lose some of the time, if you guess giant and you're wrong you lose a lot more of the time.
it's not my fault you get triggered by anything faster than a reno deck.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
You could tell from the video deerjason was trying his hardest to believe in the heart of the cards and it paid off for him at the end of that game 5 aggro shaman v aggro shaman with those amazing top decks.
This bugs me with so many game, fighters especially. Make ranking actually mean a damn so you can't just one and done through everything.
triggered? seriously man..
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
How perfect would it be for the quad aggro lineup winning the entire tournament.
They should really implement a start-when-full always available tourny system like basically every other digital CCG. 3-4 decks, wait for 8 people, 100 or so gold. It'd be such a great way to play the game.
The fact that he was able to mulligan and get one of the giants and one of the drakes (yeah it was in his opening but still) in hand at the start makes me believe hes some sort of warlock .... XD
The one you get when playing Warrior. At least after Mech Mage disappeared. That shit can burn in hell.
I would pick Priest every day of every week. I don't care if they are supposedly shit tier, I don't want to see that smarmy asshole ever again.
one of the Blizzard designer commented on tournament mode in the game a few days ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4jpt2z/a_tournament_mode_would_be_amazing/d393e8f
one thing that stands out here is that it's important (to him at least) to keep the required session time low and that's understandable, this is a casual game in core, you can't expect people to sit and play bo3 for one hour straight.
The closest thing we could get is something like arena for constructed like he suggests.
one thing that stands out here is that it's important (to him at least) to keep the required session time low and that's understandable, this is a casual game in core, you can't expect people to sit and play bo3 for one hour straight.
The closest thing we could get is something like arena for constructed like he suggests.
Imagine the high level strats.
Everyone bans shaman so the shaman players can never find a match, so you actually think ahead and ban another class instead.
unless shamans are banning shamans as well. Besides a class would never be banned 100% of the time because they are people with classes and decks that are favorable vs shaman that wont ban them or people that hate priest more and ban priest so they will still face shamans
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
In conquest you must win with every deck. So if you make a line up that is really good against shaman, you can beat every player who puts shaman in their line up.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Nope. Even as aggro paladin you one consideration you have is whether you play around AOEs or play fast to get high divine favor value.
And then what about mirror matches against other aggro decks? You'll lose often if you always go face and divine favor won't bail you out of poor choices.
riiiiight. you know just because you say nope doesn't make it true.
I just faced a aggro paladin, all face, he didnt care, just flood the board, because your opponent only has so many clears
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I explained where aggro paladin has to make a decision other than going face. I didn't just say nope and leave it at that.
Would love to see this 4 deck line up that beats Shaman.
I know I've asked before but what's the hate for Tempo Mage again? Flamewaker doing 15 damage suck yes. But is that the chief complaint? Secrets are gone. Flamecannon is gone. RNGPortal is gone. Hell, the newer Tempo Mage actually runs more minions. It'll all be over next year anyway. Except for the whole Cabalist Tome thing. God I love that card. Even if it does give me Shatter WAY too often.
Just ran into a Control N'zoth Shaman. So... #NotAllShaman?
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Tempostorm says Zoolock, N'Zoth Paladin, Tempo Mage, Control Warrior and I at least agree on Zoolock and N'Zoth paladin, especially if the paladin is teched with things like refreshment vendor and farseer and Senjin to maximize early game survivability.
I don't have experience with the other matchups to comment on those.
Nzoth Paladin and CW only do well against Aggro Shaman, not against Midrange Shaman.
Midrange Shaman can easily beat both Nzoth Paladin and CW. And IMO that's the more consistent Shaman deck as it has the fewest bad match ups.
Out of those decks listed, Zoolock has the best chance but a Midrange Shaman with Lightning Storm can steal away wins pretty easily from Zoolock with the appropriate draws.
Its exaggeration, deck is a lot weaker now.. but losing to them in snowball fashion still frustating but yeahh..
N'zoth pally is beatable
but my record said Control Warrior is borderline unbeatable
Shaman this shaman that but you look at deck, you only had 4 high attack minion there.. CW easily can remove it as soon it hit board.. bloodlust usually out of range
I dunno, maybe my deck doesn't run doomhammer not helping tho
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Damn, 7/10 of my last matches vs shaman. (4-3 vs it playing c'thun mage)
Why don't you think it can't be done? But that is also besides the point. And if you're asking for a line up that beats aggro and shaman midrange, that is also besides the point since those are different decks. You don't target classes, you target decks.
Why don't you think it can't be done? But that is also besides the point. And if you're asking for a line up that beats aggro and shaman midrange, that is also besides the point since those are different decks. You don't target classes, you target decks.
Karsticles
Member
It feels worse than Secret Paladin at this point.