The correct response is to drop something like Armorsmith or Acolyte so the Mage has to remove it, or else give you amazing value.
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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The correct response is to drop something like Armorsmith or Acolyte so the Mage has to remove it, or else give you amazing value.
OK, time to get serious with Rogue.
Thalnos or Edwin?
I can only craft one. I kind of want Thalnos more because he pops up in other classes as well sometimes, but Edwin is a win condition on his own.
Which one, GAF? WHICH ONE?
Because consistency-wise, Priest sucks balls, but when they have the NUTS they're fookin' unstoppable.
And I "main" Priest.
Thalnos or Edwin?
I can only craft one. I kind of want Thalnos more because he pops up in other classes as well sometimes, but Edwin is a win condition on his own.
Which one, GAF? WHICH ONE?
Because consistency-wise, Priest sucks balls, but when they have the NUTS they're fookin' unstoppable.
And I "main" Priest.
irfaanator
Banned
Well the pro of thalnos is it's a neutral and can be put in other decks, but if you are just working on rogue it can technically be replaced by a novice engineer (the better option for cycle) or kobold. Otherwise i'd go edwin all day since it's pretty good
Karsticles
Member
Thalnos is used in Malygos and Freeze Mage OTK decks.
Edwin is used in pretty much every single Rogue deck.
As is Thalnos.
Karsticles
Member
It's used in all the meta decks right now, but there have been Rogue decks that didn't use Thalnos in the past. I'm just saying that, if you are 100% Rogue, Edwin will get slightly more mileage.
Karsticles
Member
Really? I thought Thalnos didn't get used in Classic Rogue.
What's classic Rogue? LOL!
Can't think of a deck where Thalnos isn't used for Rogues. Miracle, Malygos, Deathrattle, Control, Mill, Tempo, Oil etc. all have used it.
Thalnos is in almost every single Rogue deck. I know because I've been subbing for him my entire Hearthstone "career". I think he's not present in Mech, and maybe Mill, Rogue.
Edwin comes and goes, but he's been "big" since the owl and BGH nerfs. Edwin can win you the game on his own, though. Thalnos seems so underwhelming....
Edwin comes and goes, but he's been "big" since the owl and BGH nerfs. Edwin can win you the game on his own, though. Thalnos seems so underwhelming....
Nah Thalnos has been in most rogue decks. He is too good to leave out.
If Thalnos said, "Lapdogs, all of you!" when he attacked, this would be a no-brainer.
Yeah, dood. Do you even SM, breh?
Yeah, dood. Do you even SM, breh?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
It actually makes me want to play the deck I lost against. I know if I was on the other side getting people mad I'd probably be real happy doing it
Feather boa, mayne. Just coz you're dead don't mean you can't be FABULOUS.
Professor Lich
Member
Random aside, I really wish there was an 'AI Constructed Mode.'
Basically something that allows you to make a deck and play against it against AI so you can practice against it without losing rank. Of course, AI will never play as good as a player, but it would be cool to see.
Karsticles
Member
It's one of the pre-made Rogue decks Blizzard put out, and I figured it had some relation to the class's actual history.
Glad to be corrected on that.
1) Craft Dr. Boom.
2) Craft Tirion.
3) Craft Mysterious Challenger x2.
4) Enjoy a 90%+ win rate in Wild with one of the most salt-inducing decks in the game's history.
Its amazing how well made the ai on hard in Overwatch is compared to how shit it is in Hearthstone
It's one of the pre-made Rogue decks Blizzard put out, and I figured it had some relation to the class's actual history.
Glad to be corrected on that.
1) Craft Dr. Boom.
2) Craft Tirion.
3) Craft Mysterious Challenger x2.
4) Enjoy a 90%+ win rate in Wild with one of the most salt-inducing decks in the game's history.
Put nzoth too for extra bm.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Actually took out Dr. Boom out of secret paladin. He takes up too much space for Nzoth. Don't want sludge belchers pushed out and with the amount of face damage I put in Lightlord and a forbidden healing.
Mana Wyrm comes very close, but mage as a class isn't as good as shammy.
So status quo.
Next expansion: Tunnel Wyrm, 1 Mana 1/3 "Whenever you cast a spell, gain attack equal to the cost of the spell"
You still need many games to hit legend, even though you play the OP deck of the season.
You're also going to hit a wall of mirror matches. It's not like the deck is an unknown commodity.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I actually met very few secret paladins on my way to 5 and it usually boiled down to secret keeper turn 1 or Nzoth.
I met some oddshot paladins though murloc pally, face pally, quartermaster pally, midrange pally (secret pally w/o secrets)
I met some oddshot paladins though murloc pally, face pally, quartermaster pally, midrange pally (secret pally w/o secrets)
There are a lot of 1 drops that counter other one drops. A Zoo vs Zoo match up can be won or loss based on how your first turns match up against one another. Against those very early focused decks your goal is to survive and stabilize. It's unlikely that you'll have the board against a deck that runs 4 of the best 1 drops in the game. Lightwarden trades with Argent Squire, Possessed Villager, and Fiery Warbat. So in those situations it doesn't grow into a super power house, it's a stepping stone to not completely losing the board.
It's not on the same level as the wonderfully broken Mana Wyrm, Frothing Berserker, or Troggzor, but it's pretty close in the right deck and it can actually grow it's attack much faster than the other 1 drops in the right situations. The missing health hurts it, but wyrm and trogg get cleared by a Flame Imp too.
You also don't usually want to heal on turn 2. You want to play a minion and keep fighting for board. The deck I posted is a tempo deck. Lightwarden gives you some options if you don't have a 2 drop though. Attacking face, healing the opponent and turning it into a 3/2 can be a good play if you have no other options.
To sum it up. Light Warden allows you to fight for the board in the early game. If it goes unchecked it can deal a lot of damage. It often draws hard removal that will allow your more hearty Holy Champions to survive. In the late game it is stronger than most other 1 drops as it will be immediately combined with a heal. Lastly at 1 mana it is a strong tempo play when combined with any heal, it is an insane tempo play when combined with multiple heals.
Perfect... no, but it's pretty good.
that card looks good
Forget about shamans, midrange hunter is the new op deck cool kids play, unlike shaman and with overload, this takes literally zero thinking too, just get to turn 8 and I win! I only just played HS in the background browsing web this month, I'm about to get that 5, it's full auto pilot. Somehow the designer thought having 3 cards worth 3 mana each in one card minus the RNG, should cost 8 instead of 10. It's so stupid. I beat even zoo with hunter, your minions quality is well above warlock's, shaman isn't a big deal even. You are only weak to face decks like face warrior that actually seems too popular for what it is, warriors are either control or face lol, I haven't seen as many tempos actually. Looking at my ladder games I think hunter and shaman's popularity are pretty close right now, to think people were calling Rexxar dead class.
Tempo storm meta snapshot is out. Which means the entire meta is going to turn into the top 4 decks on that list even though the top 20 decks are completely viable.
Tier 1:
Tier 2:
Tier 3:
Tier 4:
Tier 1:
- Aggro Shaman
- Control Warrior
- Tempo Warrior
- Zoolock
Tier 2:
- Midrange Shaman
- Midrange Hunter
- C'Thun Druid
- Patron Warrior
- Miracle Rogue
- Pirate Warrior
- Tempo Mage
- Freeze Mage
- Yogg Druid
- Dragon Warrior
Tier 3:
- N'Zoth Rogue
- Renolock
- N'Zoth Paladin
- C'Thun Warrior
- Beast Druid
- Malygos Rogue
- N'Zoth Priest
- Ramp Druid
- Dragon Priest
Tier 4:
- Control Shaman
- C'Thun Priest
This brawl is brutal. If someone gets ETC, or one of the sisters or even maexna, the game is over. Managed to offensive play out aviana into double cthun and still lost
BananasWithGuns
Member
Well this brawl is...interesting. I got fucking Blingtron, Hemet, Rend, Geddon and N'Zoth. Played my Blingtron, opponent got Doomhammer, I got Cursed Blade.
Easy pack for that guy.
Edit: Second game, I drop two Eydis. Opponent immediately drops two Gormok. That's a Concede.
Easy pack for that guy.
Edit: Second game, I drop two Eydis. Opponent immediately drops two Gormok. That's a Concede.
EleGiggle
Heres another good one: Start on turn 2 with 3 Voltrons in your hand, insta GG
Edit: Got a BGH and golden Prep, nice.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Yeah, this is the most random, crap shoot brawl in the history of the mode. Might as well just have each player roll a die at the start of the match, higher number wins.
Edit: Eh, got a golden Highmane from my pack. Good enough.
Edit: Eh, got a golden Highmane from my pack. Good enough.
captscience
Member
I got hit with double discount card into two Dr.Booms on turn 2.
Next game I had three Sylvanas on board by turn 5.