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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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Professor Lich
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It would yeah. Think Sludge Belcher. It mentions how the 1/2 Slime has Taunt.
What if the deathrattle re-equips the weapon and laughs at all new warrior weapons.
Are there any cards that summon minions that don't describe what the minions do? I feel like it exists. Maybe it summons a named minion, and that's how it gets around that rule?
Animal companion summons leokk. I doubt it's a named elemental, though. Unless it's one of several random 4/2 named elementals.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
The Elemental trades with Harrison, which is interesting.
Hm... not sure what to think of this card.
This one is really hard to predict. Although, if it fails, it's probably because of the pretty bad stats of the elemental.
This card probably would be better if it had overload 1 and cost 4 mana, since you can kill all the 3 mana cards.
This one is really hard to predict. Although, if it fails, it's probably because of the pretty bad stats of the elemental.
This card probably would be better if it had overload 1 and cost 4 mana, since you can kill all the 3 mana cards.
Portugeezer
Member
With ridiculous shit like Belcher, I don't blame people that use Owl to bypass taunts.
However, if they nerfed it as you wish, then it would have to become a 3/2 minion, similar to Lights Champions in mana:stats.
Professor Lich
Member
Outside of Animal Companion, there's this guy;
It falls under the same idea that there are four AWESOME Inventions. I guess the idea is that after playing with the card enough, you'd get to know what possibilities there are.
Outside of those two cards, it looks like anything that summons anything else mentions the stats and any effects it has.(Taunt, Charge, Deathrattle, etc)
Edit: Actually, I was always a little disappointed in Dragonling Mechanic and Razorfen Hunter. They explicitly say what the name of their add is, but the actual minions on the board have generic names! (Mr. Bitey and Tuskerr respectively.)
t1: tunnel trogg/
t2: totem golem
t3: coin tuskarr totemic.
t4: master of evolution on the useless 3 mana 3/2 body of tuskarr. OR thing from below.
t5: this weapon, absolute board control
t6: fire elemental plus a 4/2 summoned on board.
t7: pending
t8: Al'Akir
seems good to me.
t2: totem golem
t3: coin tuskarr totemic.
t4: master of evolution on the useless 3 mana 3/2 body of tuskarr. OR thing from below.
t5: this weapon, absolute board control
t6: fire elemental plus a 4/2 summoned on board.
t7: pending
t8: Al'Akir
seems good to me.
RumblingRosco
Member
Only fits in a hyper-aggressive deck, in my opinion. Based on current Shaman cards, I'm not sure a 4/2 vanilla card is going to help much with anything but maybe being lucky to go face on the following turn.
But, if we're talking aggro Shaman, there are better 4-drops or cards that can get around Taunt. And, since aggro shaman usually already has a Doomhammer, it'd be quite a lot of weapons to have both Doomhammer and this.
I don't know, I could be wrong, but I'm just not a fan, especially when Doomhammer is so much better for face due to the benefit it gets from Rockbiter.
I really hope he is, especially with how tied in with the old gods the twilight council are.
Yeah, it trades with Harrison but Ooze also gets a favorable trade with it. If only Bloodsail Corsair were a 2/1.. what a terrible card that is.
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thepotatoman
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Turn 4 is right on the fringe of it being worthwhile to sacrifice tempo for ramping so it's not exactly a 2 mana 3/3.
However it does lead to dreams like turn 2 wild growth or Darnassus into turn 3 this, which is far better than doubling up on wild growths or Darnassuses.
4 mana 3/3 + 2/2 isn't great synergy with a ramp deck but I guess it's good enough if you draw it late game or really need it to counter aggro.
I could also see 4 mana 3/3 + 2/2 being very good in the token decks. I think it's actually quite a bit better than Dragonling Mechanic on its own with that stat distribution, and that's already seen some play in those druid token decks.
I liked Noxious idea of stripping the overload and making it 7 mana. The problem right now is that it comes out too early. Maybe 6+1?
If that's starting from the trench and already getting closer to 50% around rank 15 it's... not too great. I don't know the list but any decently built aggro Paladin should make for a smooth ride to 5.
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No, that includes a bunch of last month's games too. I started from Rank 20 this month. Here it is:
miladesn said:
Ramp usually plays Tazdingo. This is probably more valuable as it allows you to Ramp into your more significant taunts like Ancient of War, or maybe Sunwalker comes back. Turn 4 Sunwalker is pretty scary. Or maybe Master Jouster instead?
MetroidPrimeRib
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he is coming
The Mango Sentinel
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I hate the fucking owl but I have no problem with it silencing taunts. It's that it can silence ANYTHING. If it was just taunts then I'd be ok with that.
But whenever I play something, even something simple that might get me a brief upper hand, like say Water Elemental since I'm playing against a Warrior...nope, here comes the bird to take a giant fucking dump on whatever strategy I may have had.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
yeah i'm done with this awfully balanced game, this is turn 3 ladies and gents, lost on turn 5.
God hand from mech mage. That rarely happens. I wouldn't give up due to that. Mech mage isn't even good anymore. Control warrior can even win from there if they brawl on turn 5 I bet. lol
Pretty much. They've done some silly stuff before but dropping secretdin to tier 2 is hilarious when they've had druid as the top dog for what feel like forever despite having bad matchups being the rest of what they have in that tier.
Like...what.
Druid card seems... okay. Usually by 4 mana I'm not thinking about ramp. I mean, right now I don't see myself replacing aspirant/wild growth for this, and I can't imagine running aspirant/growth + new card.
I will say that this is probably great for anyone who wants to run a Reno Druid deck. Having Innervate + growth + aspirant + swamp is a pretty good variety.
I will say that this is probably great for anyone who wants to run a Reno Druid deck. Having Innervate + growth + aspirant + swamp is a pretty good variety.
yeah i'm done with this awfully balanced game, this is turn 3 ladies and gents, lost on turn 5.
godhand and yet still not unwinnable for the warrior :/ you're right, game is broken. I mean what did you even have for your first 3 turns?
I mean, I'm gonna disagree with that statement... but it would be nice for liquid to discuss rankings again. It's been 4 months since the their last tier list.
That's the 3rd Shaman weapon with Deathrattle in a row. I guess that's the class's hook now? Maybe Blizz HQ is too scared to give weapons Overload again in fear of making them too good.
As far the tempo game, I think it's a nice follow up after Thing From Below or Master of Evolution. It doesn't eat into your next turn like Doomhamer will. Also, the minion is specifically NAMED as 'Elemental' which is interesting. Potentially more Elemental text in future cards?
Well Met x7
As far the tempo game, I think it's a nice follow up after Thing From Below or Master of Evolution. It doesn't eat into your next turn like Doomhamer will. Also, the minion is specifically NAMED as 'Elemental' which is interesting. Potentially more Elemental text in future cards?
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Well Met x7
poppedcollar69
Member
What if they changed owl to "remove taunt from a minion"
Face decks are happy, but it's still a big nerf
Face decks are happy, but it's still a big nerf
ok pro player, not sure what difference any 1-2 mana card would have made? Game was lost due to imbalance by turn 3, gj blizz as always. (long term wow player
)Karsticles
Member
How about Fiery War Axe to kill those Mechwarpers?ok pro player, not sure what difference any 1-2 mana card would have made? Game was lost due to imbalance by turn 3, gj blizz as always. (long term wow player
ok pro player, not sure what difference any 1-2 mana card would have made? Game was lost due to imbalance by turn 3, gj blizz as always. (long term wow player
Pretty much every version of Warrior clowns Mech Mage. If the Mage had the god draw and you had none of the relevant removal, I can see how you'd lose and be annoyed by that. The game balance is still in your favor.
ok pro player, not sure what difference any 1-2 mana card would have made? Game was lost due to imbalance by turn 3, gj blizz as always. (long term wow player
The game is not balanced in the typical sense. There are a lot of mana acceleration and RNG based swing cards that can decide games on the spot.
As others mentioned you could potentially get a brawl and come back from that position or you could slam the piloted shredder into a doomsayer and he would lose his board.
That is not a typical mech mage start and, to be fair. the mech mage player drew the nut opening. Not many decks can beat a perfect opening from another deck, especially something like a slow warrior deck that is reacting to minions played rather than putting pressure on the board themselves.
Either way it is best not to take the results of each individual Hearthstone game as an indication of "balanced" or "unbalanced". Over time the RNG balanced out and you are left with typical win rate and you just have to enjoy the game for the time waster it really is.
Rightfully so because TL knows ain't nothing really changed for 4 months.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Deck tier lists are boring. But regarding secret paladin, I'm not surprised even slightly to see it knocked down to tier 2.
I think classic is the best investment. Once you know what deck or decks you want to build, you can then narrow down whats the best set to buy from. Classic still has a lot of strong cards used in a wide variety of decks.
I think classic is the best investment. Once you know what deck or decks you want to build, you can then narrow down whats the best set to buy from. Classic still has a lot of strong cards used in a wide variety of decks.
People complaining about general balance because they got rekt by the Mech Mage nuts that one time... good times, pure classic.
Like, I'm the last one to defend Blizzard's decisions over the past two years but Mech Mage has NEVER been a problem.
Like, I'm the last one to defend Blizzard's decisions over the past two years but Mech Mage has NEVER been a problem.
LMAO sad but true
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think the only BS mech mage can pull, other than the god openers, is stealth spare part on antonidas.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I remember that one game where I beat a mech mage God opener by getting an even better one on tempo mage, so enjoyable.
I still remember when people were calling for mechwarper's head to be nerfed.
Though it technically is still OP for what it does, it's a bit of a necessary evil(and mech is RIP anyway soon).
4 mana is a strong power slot for druid. Innervate shredder on 2 is great, but typically not given a followup aside from wrath on a minion or shade which tends to be their only playable 3. Innervate into this into ANOTHER 4 drop the next turn is disgusting. That's the dream with it, or wild growth into that into a 6. Losing shredder for standard opens some spots and I'd say this is a nice fit, it wouldn't really be in place of a lower drop.
Though it technically is still OP for what it does, it's a bit of a necessary evil(and mech is RIP anyway soon).
4 mana is a strong power slot for druid. Innervate shredder on 2 is great, but typically not given a followup aside from wrath on a minion or shade which tends to be their only playable 3. Innervate into this into ANOTHER 4 drop the next turn is disgusting. That's the dream with it, or wild growth into that into a 6. Losing shredder for standard opens some spots and I'd say this is a nice fit, it wouldn't really be in place of a lower drop.
Mech Mage gets the god hand but for Uther, it was Tuesday
Yeah that one is actual bs. Still got nothing on all the outrageous bullcrap Tempo Mage pulls on a regular basis.