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There was a tweet that said the spells would stop once a hero died
But what about minions?
Like let's say Yogg Saron plays Brawl. If the game waits until the end of the battlecry phase to die, that means you could see animations where the minions in the post Brawl phase get affected by spells that don't ignore pending destroy tags.
The way that the game currently works is that death processing does not occur until the end of the battlecry phase. If Death processing were to occur in between each spell that Yogg Saron casts, that would introduce the first instance of a minion having multiple battlecry phases. Like not even Brann creates two battlecry phases, he just resolves two effects within a single battlecry phase.
Feel free to share what those things are.
Sorry guys. I submitted the survey. I didn't even think about making screenshots.
This is the email if anyone gets it. I made a ticket to verify it was legit before doing it.
Hopefully someone else is clever enough to take some screenshots.
Can you give us details at least, like what the questions asked?
Ok, see they posted a new response:
"If you only played Yogg the combos would not proc of spells he casts. If you played another card first, it would proc combos."
Also, this sounds like blizzard is covering their asses for when they revert the change to Overload that got introduced a few patches ago (Overload used to be part of the spell effect, it is now part of the spell cost. This comes up if your overload card gets blocked by counterspell)
"Currently it does not grant you Overload, but this is something we still discussing and may change in the future."
Yogg-Saron is so crazy the Blizzard doesn't even know all the intricacies of the damn card that they printed.
I don't see the card being competitive in ladder until we see what happens to BGH, but it's going to make for some lol moments that are going to be awesome to watch and for some aggravating moments for the person on the wrong end of it's battlecry.
I don't see the card being competitive in ladder until we see what happens to BGH, but it's going to make for some lol moments that are going to be awesome to watch and for some aggravating moments for the person on the wrong end of it's battlecry.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
What would BGH have to do with Yogg? How would that change anything?
"Dies to BGH" is the such a weird criticism of this card I almost thought about posting that in this thread as a joke.
I mean Yogg Saron could easily kill ITSELF or YOU. Nobody will play this card except as a Hail Mary, in which case BGH is the least of your worries.
In case people want to see some RNG now and not wait,
http://yoggsaronsimulator.herokuapp.com/
didn't they say it was the card people play most around the office?
I can see why, vs friends it's usable to have a laugh, not when something actually matters
http://yoggsaronsimulator.herokuapp.com/
didn't they say it was the card people play most around the office?
I can see why, vs friends it's usable to have a laugh, not when something actually matters
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
"Guys how about this card idea?"
"Holy shit that's awesome yeah print it!"
*end of conversation*
Wow someone actually made an app already?
People on the internet work super fast...
I did 3 cycles of 10 spells with Yaarg for experimentation purposes:
Equality
Starfall
Wrath
Competitive Spirit
Bash
Inner Fire
Shadow Word: Pain
Vanish
Lightning Storm
Claw
I got a board wipe (Equality and the two board clears)then my Yaarg went to 1/1 because of Equality/Inner Fire... I also gained 5 armor because of Bash plus Claw and did some damage on the board (either to myself ,Yaarg or the other hero).
Fist of Jaraxxus
Siphon Sou
Naturalize
Holy Nova
Feral Spirit
Spreading Madness
Ancestral Healing
Shiv
Noble Sacrifice
Headcrack:
I got a board clear and some removals plus face damage (its possible that it removes my own minions). Also got a bunch of card draws. Set up a Noble Sac for defensive purposes. Also did 4 damage to face probably and summoned Feral Spirits. Oh and I did 9 damage to everything lol. Gained 3 HP.
It was mostly a bunch of questions coming down to most wanted/least wanted.
It didn't give too much away but here's what I remember.
- Cooperative Mode
- Play with friends on the same side (Probably same as Cooperative Mode)
- Pay for unique card backs
- Importance of Customized Boards (Would you like further customization)
- Expansion packs
- Adventure modes
- Rarity beyond gold
- Tournament mode/support
- Hearthstone community
- Limited card modes
- Ranked arena mode
- Shared replay hints at social media sharing later
- Social media sign in
- More heroes
- More emotes
- More achievements
- More linked achievements
- Rate crafting
Well RNG incarnated so I guess that fits the M.O. for Brode to find a card crazy good
only down side, it does not randomly say if you used it on yourself or the opponent with spells that could be, that would be cool if it did
Yes to all of these except Social media sign in.
After running some tests with Yaarg I came to the realization that:
*You are likely to get some removals and AOE clears. You have a chance to clear their board and remove a couple of big targets. Even if Yaarg gets targeted first, the effects still happen so the next removal you get will target their stuff.
*You get some marginal damage and heals... very unlikely you get the big heals/damage. There are a lot more smaller damage and heals in the game than big ones.
*You are very likely to get some card draws.
None of my rolls were too godlike where I would've won the game except there was one that gave me a Charge buff plus other buffs like the new Druid buff card. That could've been like 12 damage with a board clear that might've won the game.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
So trying that Yogg simulator a bunch he's very likely to play secrets and draw cards, which is mostly not what you want out of a hail mary. Still, probably pretty decent if you don't have a lot of options in your hand and are behind.
Unless you reach fatigue, tracking is just "draw a card" with Yogg.
Overall I think people are underestimating Yogg a little bit. So many spells are automatically beneficial to the caster that it's very unlikely for Yogg to have a negative impact. The expected gain probably won't be worth 10 mana and an underwhelming body though.
Oh we definitely YGO now!!!
Seems like Yogg is pretty likely to mill you, ran through about 15 simulations and my average was around 3 draws with some insane outliers, and that's before all the shit he will put into your hand through discover cards, Thoughtsteals, Blood Warriors etc.
Can't wait for the complex simulations and detailed stats the internet will provide us with by tomorrow.
And again, this is obviously the ultimate Trolden card. On one hand it's sad that an outrageous rng bomb is the most exciting OG card by a country mile, on the other I'm chuckling at the thought of Yogg renouncing darkness, tracking the absolute crappiest card in your deck while discarding Justicar and Elise or forceroaring down a Muster. This is some serious Skynet shit.
Can't wait for the complex simulations and detailed stats the internet will provide us with by tomorrow.
And again, this is obviously the ultimate Trolden card. On one hand it's sad that an outrageous rng bomb is the most exciting OG card by a country mile, on the other I'm chuckling at the thought of Yogg renouncing darkness, tracking the absolute crappiest card in your deck while discarding Justicar and Elise or forceroaring down a Muster. This is some serious Skynet shit.
Jesus, I read Yogg wrong and thought it was going to be random spells of the same cost. Didn't realize it was all random.
That is definitely the most insane card they've ever made. I really want to see it in a match just to visualize wtf it even looks like making all these spells pop off.
That is definitely the most insane card they've ever made. I really want to see it in a match just to visualize wtf it even looks like making all these spells pop off.
I'm just wondering in general whether the meta would allow people to fit these 10 mana minions that Blizzard is printing into their decks, and because of the card being a 7/5 instead of a 6/6 or whatever from a design perspective. If you're playing a card like Yogg-Saron, then you're not caring about BGH. This card is Hail Mary RNG madness.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Yogg-Saron into Renounce Darkness would have to be the most batshit insane thing in Hearthstone I'd have to imagine.
You know, running through that simulator...?
He might actually be playable. Tons of spells that can't backfire or are less likely to backfire if you are behind on board.
Yogg-Saron into Doom into Astral Communion.
He might actually be playable. Tons of spells that can't backfire or are less likely to backfire if you are behind on board.
Yogg-Saron into Doom into Astral Communion.
Revenge + Elemental Destruction means at least Yogg is dead no matter what, most likely the rest of the board too.
Totemic Might next. Well, if I had some like 10HP totems, at least they could get buffed.
Mind Vision. Neat, free card.
Ice Block + Noble Sacrifice. So I'm basically unkillable now until next turn.
Sinister Strike. So a bit of damage to the enemy.
Bouncing Blade. So if anything is still alive, this should kill it off.
Wild Growth. Another card.
Dark Wispers: Ok, if there is no minions left, I get 5 wisps. Neat.
So it basically wiped out the entire board, gave me 2 cards, did some minor damage, put 2 secrets into play, and summoned 5 wisps. Sounds like a Paladin card.
Lets try once more.
Explorer's Hat. So someone just got a hat.
Lava Shock. Could hit anything.
Fireball: Could also hit anything.
Brawl. Welp, now we only got 1 minion left.
Mulch: Never mind, no minions left. Gave the opponent a card though.
Polymorph. Just in case the enemy had a sticky death rattle minion.
Shadow Word: Death: This likely isn't doing shit at this point.
Put Avenge into play, Ancestral Spirit likely wiffs, and to round it out, play MIND GAMES.
Yeah, this card is shaping up to be "Battle Cry: Clear the board and do a bunch of random shit."
Totemic Might next. Well, if I had some like 10HP totems, at least they could get buffed.
Mind Vision. Neat, free card.
Ice Block + Noble Sacrifice. So I'm basically unkillable now until next turn.
Sinister Strike. So a bit of damage to the enemy.
Bouncing Blade. So if anything is still alive, this should kill it off.
Wild Growth. Another card.
Dark Wispers: Ok, if there is no minions left, I get 5 wisps. Neat.
So it basically wiped out the entire board, gave me 2 cards, did some minor damage, put 2 secrets into play, and summoned 5 wisps. Sounds like a Paladin card.
Lets try once more.
Explorer's Hat. So someone just got a hat.
Lava Shock. Could hit anything.
Fireball: Could also hit anything.
Brawl. Welp, now we only got 1 minion left.
Mulch: Never mind, no minions left. Gave the opponent a card though.
Polymorph. Just in case the enemy had a sticky death rattle minion.
Shadow Word: Death: This likely isn't doing shit at this point.
Put Avenge into play, Ancestral Spirit likely wiffs, and to round it out, play MIND GAMES.
Yeah, this card is shaping up to be "Battle Cry: Clear the board and do a bunch of random shit."
Portugeezer
Member
Can Yogg-Saron die from its battlecry?
I believe so, but it won't be until after it resolves every spell. From what blizzard has said so far (and it could change) is that it will stop once a player is dead.
Doubt it, i think it just uses the spell. whatever may come from it just sits on the board till it's over
You messed up
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
people tryin to figure out how Yogg-Saron works like
This shit ain't addin up, this is why he makes people go insane
This shit ain't addin up, this is why he makes people go insane
If you silence a card that was shadow madnessed it returns the card to the enemy immediately.
So you would freeze the minion, take control of it, then immediately send it back to the enemy unfrozen.
echoshifting
Banned
SOMEbody is going to grind a Yogg deck all the way to Legend in the first month.
Count on it.
Count on it.
Yeah thinking about it you'd just be able to control them yourself once he's done. If you actually have a turn left. Tbf he'll play Vanish right after anyway.
clearly hes programmed to use new expansion spells more, so he'll fill your board up with stuff and then use doom!
we would be so lucky. Probably coded the same way noz is
It's not like you are going to be doing much else that turn.
The main issue is that it would eat into the time of the other player.
I just know that this card is going to break the game week 1.
They fixed the Nozdormu animation bug in ranked & casual (not tavern brawl). I imagine this would be fixed under the same conditions.
Yogg-Saron can't fuck the game anymore than Nozdormu already has.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U82pMcaNFo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U82pMcaNFo4