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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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But what if you play both?
Sounds like a 6 mana paladin card
bunbun777
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I was going to mention that. Play noz turn 9, yogg on 10. It's like a free time warp or sword of a thousand truths lol.
CelticKnight
Member
Played a few games after taking a couple days break, just to clear some dailies up and it's nothing but shitty aggro decks who go face every turn. So either I be part of the problem and go Aggro cunt Shaman et al or I play a gimped deck and die by turn 6 or 7.
So that's it, I'm done. Glad I didn't pre-order the new expansion packs as I'm done with this game for now and I don't know if I'll come back. Playing other games over the past few days made me realise that you're supposed to have fun playing a game, not just log in daily like some sort of monotonous grind. The missus said "you're always grumpy when you play that card game" which is true, and at that moment a light bulb lit up above my head.
I'll drop in this thread every now and again to see if the new cards change the game. But for now it's bye Hearthstone, I'd like to say it was fun, but it wasn't.
So that's it, I'm done. Glad I didn't pre-order the new expansion packs as I'm done with this game for now and I don't know if I'll come back. Playing other games over the past few days made me realise that you're supposed to have fun playing a game, not just log in daily like some sort of monotonous grind. The missus said "you're always grumpy when you play that card game" which is true, and at that moment a light bulb lit up above my head.
I'll drop in this thread every now and again to see if the new cards change the game. But for now it's bye Hearthstone, I'd like to say it was fun, but it wasn't.
Mobius and pet octopus
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better topic...
My thoughts: 0 mana spells are insane, therefore this card is probably insane. Obvious combinations are shadowflame or siphon soul.
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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfeo6TPWwAA2ewM.jpg:large[/IMG]My thoughts: 0 mana spells are insane, therefore this card is probably insane. Obvious combinations are shadowflame or siphon soul.
It's alright but not that good. The effect should've been active until end of turn at least.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
That's absurdly broken.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Seems pretty decent to me. Can lead to some huge tempo swings for Hand/Renolock.
Karsticles
Member
Would it really have been too much to just make your next spell free?
At least we know why DOOM! is in the set now.
0 mana Doom son.
Siphon Soul and Shadowflame are best uses for this. Other Warlock cards aren't expensive or good enough to warrant playing this card.
Warlock getting the shaft this expansion yet again.
For a Mage it would be but all of Warlock's big cards are board clears so it's not like dumping your entire hand would be that effective.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
If the effect lasted for the entire turn it'd enable stupid af combo plays that nobody is interested in seeing more of.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
0 mana spells are insane enough. We're talking about siphon soul costing only 3 health.
What is the combo? You're already saturating 7 mana that turn so you can't combo Warlock's direct damage spells with Malygos or anything else like that.
He's saying your next spell as in it working like Dragon Consort. You can sort of bank that spell for later on and still play this on turn 7 for board presence.
I don't think it would be too good. It would make cards like Twisting Nether and Doom more playable.
CarbonatedFalcon
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You guys see the Curse of Rafaam tech in like a Zooish deck? Sjow was playing Freeze Mage the other day and it absolutely wrecked him. Was quite hilarious. Also lately I've seen the Nozdormu/Curse combo, that I think Eloise was playing.
Karsticles
Member
Compare that to other legendaries, though. Imagine the card like this:
Cho'gall.
7 Mana
7/7
Destroy a target creature and lose 3 health.
Does that really seem "insane" to you? Would it be too insane if it instead said:
Cho'gall
7 Mana
7/7
Destroy a target creature and gain 3 health.
Because that's the difference between what Blizzard did, and what I am suggesting.
lol, Nozdormu/Curse combo? What's that?
Curse of Rafaam has always only had value as a Freeze Mage counter because it hits through Ice Block. Otherwise it is garbage.
That effect is insane son.
7/7 body 7 mana kill a minion on the board for only 3 hp is broken.
The reason this card isn't broken because it's a very specific two combo card play. You may not have either of the cards to make that play and even when you do you are still going 1 for 1 using Siphon Soul. If that effect was on the minion then it would be more OP than BGH.
7/7 body 7 mana kill a minion on the board for only 3 hp is broken.
The reason this card isn't broken because it's a very specific two combo card play. You may not have either of the cards to make that play and even when you do you are still going 1 for 1 using Siphon Soul. If that effect was on the minion then it would be more OP than BGH.
rope rope rope rope rope, YOGG SARON MOTHERFUCKER.
New Dr. 7 for locks?
If BGH is nerfed into the ground, Warlock may be forced to play Siphon Soul instead. And if thats the case, I think this card is powerful enough for an inclusion. This + Siphon Soul is a pretty big tempo swing.
FormallyFamicom
Member
Cho'gall seems really good in Renolock.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
now thats a warlock card. Always wanted something that would let you switch health for mana, and with Reno its not even that big of a deal.
nothing says fun like playing against aggro decks if you're not ridiculous control. Argent horserider with two abusive sergent turn....i was swearing.
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He reviewing new card at his stream now
yeah looking a little chubby,
That Card still sucks, its not worth the deck space for 2 damage and summoning thing like Voidwalker
SonicXtreme
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if 'all you faced' was shitty aggro decks you could've done something like created a homebrew taunt/heal druid deck and shut those decks down FYI i love it when i run into nothing but aggro because it's so easy to make a successful homebrew deck like that. it's really easy to shut down if you're totally confident that's what you're going to face (no pun intended)
Karsticles
Member
That moment when your hand has Aviana, Jaraxxus, Kel'Thuzad, and Illidan.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Yes. That is insane. Summon a 7/7 and destroy a minion and lose 3 health is insane. That's incredibly good. That is better than the cho'gall card we are actually given because the real cho'gall requires you to expend another card.
Now consider that the actual cho'gall card lets you use ANY spell for 0 mana. You're not restricted to siphon soul. You can use shadowflame. You can use doom or twisting nether.
But I think most people are going to combo it with siphon soul. Because play a 7/7 and spend 3 health to remove a ysera or a malygos or whatever... is simply an insane tempo swing.
Really hoping the Hunter legendary is playable. They are the only class that has never had one of their class Legendaries regularly used in a competitive deck. Every other class has managed to find a deck for one or more of their Legendaries.
Warlock: Jaraxxus & Mal'ganis
Mage: Antonidas
Paladin: Tirion
Warrior: Grommash
Rogue: Van Cleef
Priest: Paletress
Shaman: Al'Akir
Druid: Cenarius
As an aside, looking at this list makes me realize how shitty most class Legendaries outside of the Classic set have been.
Warlock: Jaraxxus & Mal'ganis
Mage: Antonidas
Paladin: Tirion
Warrior: Grommash
Rogue: Van Cleef
Priest: Paletress
Shaman: Al'Akir
Druid: Cenarius
As an aside, looking at this list makes me realize how shitty most class Legendaries outside of the Classic set have been.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I'd like to see more class legendaries in general, the other day I realized how few each class even has, they should get more. If you don't want to give them more then at least don't give them joke legendaries like Flame Leviathan and Fizzlebang, they should be those classes' best options. This is true to some extent with Antonidas, Gromm, Tirion, etc but like what does Rogue have except Van Cleef? Hunter also doesn't have a Legendary at that tier.
I hope the Hunter legendary is a 4/5 drop, it'd need to be incredibly good to take Highmane's spot at 6 and even then it'd just create deck building problems. They have plenty of high cost cards now.
I hope the Hunter legendary is a 4/5 drop, it'd need to be incredibly good to take Highmane's spot at 6 and even then it'd just create deck building problems. They have plenty of high cost cards now.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think they're doing an okay job with class legends. I think they could do better. While some could be a tad better or fit better, at least we haven't seen anything broken either, so that's good.
They've also been kinda smart. It wouldn't be good for the game if they just add in more auto-include legendary cards. Although I expect any midrange warlock class will run cho'gall, probably aggro doesn't. I frankly would not be surprised if zoo ran that beast, provided they get a spell set worthy of it.
But lets say they add a mage legendary card that's great in freeze mage (just for a clear cut example). Suddenly freeze mage has 2 class legendary cards in their deck. That is probably not a great thing. Too much power added to a single deck is the potential problem there. Therefore, I think they go with niche over generally good most of the time.
Also, I think the list of class legendary cards being used isn't bad. Although hunter has certainly had the least representation, I think even dreadscale is a fine card.
They've also been kinda smart. It wouldn't be good for the game if they just add in more auto-include legendary cards. Although I expect any midrange warlock class will run cho'gall, probably aggro doesn't. I frankly would not be surprised if zoo ran that beast, provided they get a spell set worthy of it.
But lets say they add a mage legendary card that's great in freeze mage (just for a clear cut example). Suddenly freeze mage has 2 class legendary cards in their deck. That is probably not a great thing. Too much power added to a single deck is the potential problem there. Therefore, I think they go with niche over generally good most of the time.
Also, I think the list of class legendary cards being used isn't bad. Although hunter has certainly had the least representation, I think even dreadscale is a fine card.
FormallyFamicom
Member
With Blizzard saying they want more power in the class cards over neutrals, we should see some good class legendaries in this set.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
I think the legendaries in this set have been fine up until now, not jaw dropping stuff, but all fine.
Rag is good
Xaril(?) is good(and cool)
Hallazeal is potentially great(and cool)
Volazj is eh(but cool)
Cho'Gall is good
That leaves Hunter, Mage, Warrior and Druid. IMO all of these classes would like a good legendary. Also I literally sat here for ten minutes trying to remember the ninth class in Hearthstone, fucking Druid.
Rag is good
Xaril(?) is good(and cool)
Hallazeal is potentially great(and cool)
Volazj is eh(but cool)
Cho'Gall is good
That leaves Hunter, Mage, Warrior and Druid. IMO all of these classes would like a good legendary. Also I literally sat here for ten minutes trying to remember the ninth class in Hearthstone, fucking Druid.