Reminds me of why I hate equality. So much bullshit.
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Hearthstone |OT6| C'THUN for President! Why pick the lesser evil?
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Reminds me of why I hate equality. So much bullshit.
Now this is justice
Sweet sweet justice
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
We all know what justice demands
Karsticles
Member
I honestly feel like Secret Paladin is overrated. Except for Tirion. That card is ridiculously good.
I wish all the classic legendaries were as good as tirion. Some are close (grom, antonidas) but a few need some work or better supporting cards (that would make them auto-includes in a handful of decks), like Krush or Alakir.
He proceed to like 7 winning streak after that tho
Justice Demand Retribution
Jaraxx > Tirion
Getting redemption off on a tirion is the best.
Sometimes. They're both really really good. It's why I didn't put jaraxxus in the antonidas/gromm tier. He's on tirion tier.
Karsticles
Member
Legendaries shouldn't win the game on their own. You need a ton of resources to deal with Tirion. It would maybe be fair if Ashbringer were weaker, but 6/6 taunt divine shield 5/3 weapon all in one card is insanity.
I just felt squeamish.
Truth. Tirion is number 2 to Jaraxxus, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION!
But don't complain or you'll get a legendary that makes 1/1 copies of your board, yeah that's great.
Karsticles
Member
I know the Priest legendary seems bad, but IMO wait until the full set is out before judging. Maybe there's some amazing stuff out there.
I don't mean for them to be game-winners, but rather used in more decks. They should each support at least ONE major deck type, if not multiple. Currently alakir and krush don't really fit into any major deck. The cards either need to be changed a bit or there need to be more cards that make them fit into a deck. Ideally all within classic. Alakir and krush are both decent for arena, though, so maybe that's the trade-off (albeit a really weak one). I see velen coming into play, possibly, if a nuke-priest deck becomes viable this expansion.
Of course the "problem" with Tirion is that the value isn't guaranteed.
If there is even anything left that would make that card good, it would on it's own have to be so good to even make that priest legendary not be dumpster tier. It's the one time I would have been OK if voljin got reprinted basically because that would have been better than this legendary.
If tirion is 12, and boom is 10, what's the mana calculation on jaraxxus
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Boom's value isn't either because of BGH.
The boom bots always spawn. Ashbringer does not.
Even with BGH and othet hard removals you still get about 2-3 mana off of him. Hex, Polymorph, and Entomb deal with Tirion cleanly. No mess.
I'm not saying Tirion is a bad card by any stretch (he might be the #2 Legendary in the game), just that Dr. Boom has his own set of advantages.
I still think that Volazj is a really interesting card and not a dumpster tier legendary. I don't think it's that hard for a priest to get value out of it. Like it's really good in the value game that some priest decks like to play.
Even with just a single loot hoarder you're getting a good deal like a mini-AoL. It's not a legendary that you're going to build your deck around but it's also not that hard to get value from.
I can imagine it working in some really weird resurrect deck? I dunno. Maybe in conjunction with alarm-o-bot? lol. Doesn't mean the deck will be good or get play, but that's what I see it being best for.
Karsticles
Member
But that's why Entomb is the most bullshit removal card in the game.
Nothing else works against Tirion, because nothing else can insta-kill a minion and a weapon at the exact same time.
Mind Control.
Which you can expect to see a lot if meta slows down.
Also Poly and Hex.
Karsticles
Member
I think the best way to know a card is OP is if it has to be dealt with this way, but touche. I wish Hunters had a similar tool.
Professor Lich
Member
Recycle!
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
As someone who has actually tested HS many times, it gets really tiring to hear this ignorant shit. Just because you dislike the design decisions, it doesn't mean we're bad testers.
You can also Sap it or get it to hit Freezing Trap which gives you massive tempo advantage.
Hunter can Hunter's Mark plus Owl Silence. It's two cards but you gain massive tempo advantage through this.
Entomb is AWESOME and all you haters should be ashamed of yourselves.
Entombing Tirion is probably one of the best thing in Hearthstone. Only Shrink + Cabal on Ysera or Shrink + Shadow Madness on Sylvanas comes close.
I hear more people complain, or warn, about Priest when they're one of the weakest classes in the game.
Entombing Tirion is probably one of the best thing in Hearthstone. Only Shrink + Cabal on Ysera or Shrink + Shadow Madness on Sylvanas comes close.
I hear more people complain, or warn, about Priest when they're one of the weakest classes in the game.
Priests, bunch of shameless thieves. Shouldn't the rogue class be the thieving class?
People tend to want to ignore those despite the fact they are equally as bad, even when entomb costs more
Professor Lich
Member
Priest 'stealing' is more about Mind Control and Manipulation. All in your head sorta deal. That's why they all work with minions,
Rogue stealing is more about valuables, physical things. Things that you can hold in your hand. That's why they have cards about 'stealing' cards. (Burgle, Huckster, whatever comes next.)
I think it works pretty well theme wise, but it's just that working with minions always seems to turn out better gameplay wise.
I think understanding how easily and how efficiently a large minion can be punished is very key to understanding it's value. That's the thing about Dr. Boom he can be punished with hard removals, but he can't be utterly and COMPLETELY punished. The cleanest answer is probably Lightbomb and you STILL take damage.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
THANK YOU BASED NEFARIAN
FUCK YOU PALADIN
He went "I'm sorry" when I played Nefarian too, rekt buddy. This was Trolden level shit but I'm sure it's happened before.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
So look up the decks that were played in Challengstone #1?
Kripp gon sue!
Oh no, this sounds like a nightmare tavern brawl for me. Hope I can build anything decent. I look forward to some suggestions here. Please post your tavern brawl decks.
Can't use Flamewaker though. Pretty important part of the deck.
LyleLanley
Banned
I don't like it when Tavern Brawls make me think.
Oh, odd ATTACK. I thought it was odd mana.