Playing a crappy card in hopes you hit a 2% chance doesn't make sense. It will be priests that get the bullshit lucky coldarra Drake for the otk that can't be prevented. And people are going to start flipping out about it. Even if it is rare.
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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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Playing a crappy card in hopes you hit a 2% chance doesn't make sense. It will be priests that get the bullshit lucky coldarra Drake for the otk that can't be prevented. And people are going to start flipping out about it. Even if it is rare.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I've seen reno decks running coldara before. Actually kind of fits right in with a majordomo reno mage deck.
At least very very few mages will actually play that card in reality.
Tons of Shadowform Reno priests are going to get the free otk.
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I could see the new 3/4, that allows the hero power to be used after every spell, be included as a "one of" in control warrior and zoo paladin type decks. Warrior being able to armor up an extra time after using shield slam/ slam/execute could make a huge difference, and spawning more 1/1's after using paladin 1 mana buffs could help maintain board presence without vomiting a hand full of cheap minions.
I had a lot of success with a buff paladin deck in gvg/tgt era by using my hero power every turn to increase volume of buff targets, especially in control matchups. I only played to rank 3-4 with it though.
edit: I hope they make cards like Reno part of the classic set, or somehow exclude them from the seasonal purge.
I had a lot of success with a buff paladin deck in gvg/tgt era by using my hero power every turn to increase volume of buff targets, especially in control matchups. I only played to rank 3-4 with it though.
edit: I hope they make cards like Reno part of the classic set, or somehow exclude them from the seasonal purge.
Portugeezer
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Shadow form = free dark bomb every turn
See, this implies Reno isn't currently great.
"Reno was never great." -Colin Kaepersmorc
Mobius and pet octopus
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Make Priest Great Again, more fitting imo!
Well, he isn't or at least he doesn't have a good deck right now.
In Standard he doesn't. That's really my point. In Standard Reno has been below the curve (hahaha puns!) for a while. This set is making him great again.
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What's odd to me is they are using Standard now to play "current" cards with the idea that older cards will get rolled out.
Reno being a LoE card from this time last year means that a lot of these new cards become way less viable once he rolls out to wild only.
Reno being a LoE card from this time last year means that a lot of these new cards become way less viable once he rolls out to wild only.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think highlander has a lot of design space, because they are willing to print otherwise OP cards. So I don't expect them to stop printing those types of cards. In wild we could see the strongest reno deck if they keep printing these types of cards, something that wouldn't be acceptable in standard perhaps.
Mobius and pet octopus
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A meta full of Reno decks and Priest decks sounds pretty unbearable.
I welcome our priest overloads.
BananasWithGuns
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A meta full of Reno decks and Priest decks sounds pretty unbearable.
Just roll with the fatigue Warrior.
Violet Illusionist + Brann + Coldlight Oracle finisher.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Anyfin mirrors still pretty damn intense. https://hsreplay.net/replay/yndWbxBNY65EPLSnQTQmrf
I managed to set up him for lethal if he tried to anyfin me. He probably didn't do the math but I did and knew that if he didn't heal he died to anyfin plus my truesilver.
I don't even know if I played that right. I played it more proactively than I would have before the murloc changes though and it worked out cause he made a mistake.
I managed to set up him for lethal if he tried to anyfin me. He probably didn't do the math but I did and knew that if he didn't heal he died to anyfin plus my truesilver.
I don't even know if I played that right. I played it more proactively than I would have before the murloc changes though and it worked out cause he made a mistake.
I hate going up against decks with really lopsided winrates based on matchup, like Anyfin Paladin. Yesterday, I was crushed by an Anyfin Paladin with my Dragon Priest. Dragon Priest tickles its opponents until Paladin can get an efficient clear and you can't play too slowly because you're on a clock, so Dragon Priest gets crushed. Tonight I go in with Tempo Mage, he draws like crap, and I win by Turn 7. That's just no fun.
Pretty sure Renolock actually better than in current stansarď meta than in wiĺd
Renolock doing ok in current midrange meta.. tempo mage actually worse mathup for rènolocķ than standard mid-shaman.. wild meta has alot morè stìcky minion that can really hard to clear.
Karsticles
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Eternal is in open beta on Steam now - check it out! :-D
Part of why Hearthstone is a bad game.
Part of why Hearthstone is a bad game.
BigJonsson
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Anybody want to play me for 80 gold? BigJonsson#1492
Which server? If you're NA I can trade you.
BigJonsson
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Thanks!
Mobius and pet octopus
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You know how you buy a lottery ticket when your luck is so good? What about when your luck is so bad? I've had like 50% chance to draw both anyfins before drawing any murlocs tonight. Two games in a row actually. I think my last 3 games I drew anyfin right after mulligan too.
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maybe it's not so bad, I won both my last games despite drawing anyfins in the first 4 turns lol - rag lightlord carried me to a win against face hunter then I top decked tirion to finish it off
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maybe it's not so bad, I won both my last games despite drawing anyfins in the first 4 turns lol - rag lightlord carried me to a win against face hunter then I top decked tirion to finish it off
Lone_Prodigy
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Had a 100 gold Murloc quest so I loaded up a Shaman deck with all my Murlocs. The surprising thing is that this trash deck actually wins games in Casual.
It's actually pretty effective against Zoolock. Then again once I lucked out by rolling spell damage totem and then using Maelstrom to clear his board.
Lost to a Hunter with a golden portrait who didn't play anything except Secrets and Unleash with no Huntress. Maybe he had a quest to do.
Also beat a Ramp Druid who had a really good curve (early Wild Growths into Nourish). But I Hexed his Ironbark and started filling my board, then buffed them with Everyfin to remove his Arcane Giant. I kept expecting Swipe but it never came.
It's actually pretty effective against Zoolock. Then again once I lucked out by rolling spell damage totem and then using Maelstrom to clear his board.
Lost to a Hunter with a golden portrait who didn't play anything except Secrets and Unleash with no Huntress. Maybe he had a quest to do.
Also beat a Ramp Druid who had a really good curve (early Wild Growths into Nourish). But I Hexed his Ironbark and started filling my board, then buffed them with Everyfin to remove his Arcane Giant. I kept expecting Swipe but it never came.
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fuckin' called it, man
Oh crap, someone tried Majordomo + Coldarra Drake. It looked like regular freeze mage at first.
Soooo they had the Drake out while they were Rag and had Ice Block out, looked impossible.
Play Yogg, casts Flare, moonfire face twice LOL
Soooo they had the Drake out while they were Rag and had Ice Block out, looked impossible.
Play Yogg, casts Flare, moonfire face twice LOL
Mobius and pet octopus
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I'm somehow 10-5 tonight with murloc paladin lol... despite the terrible luck in a lot of games. 10-5 with a 47% shaman representation wow.
bronkonagurski
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https://hsreplay.net/replay/HbCm6nDVwyoYTR3sYQ2bzR#turn=10b
The most intimidating Anyfin play I've ever seen. feelsbadman
The most intimidating Anyfin play I've ever seen. feelsbadman
bronkonagurski
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I had a 'play 50' Warrior quest and felt like doing something different so I queued up the Reno Warrior deck recipe and swapped like one card or two, lol. Very low effort.
Oh good grief that Priest Legendary.
I'm going to hate all the Reno styled stuff wandering around. I like it in theory, sort of, but until now most of those decks have been basically draw Reno or lose. That much reliance on a single card in a deck - especially in a game with no tutoring - just rubs me the wrong way. I don't even really like Secret Hunter all that much because it lives and dies on Cloaked Huntress. Prefer deck design that's a bit more consistent and never reliant on one thing, unless it's a draw out your deck combo, which I don't think many people like lol.
I'm going to hate all the Reno styled stuff wandering around. I like it in theory, sort of, but until now most of those decks have been basically draw Reno or lose. That much reliance on a single card in a deck - especially in a game with no tutoring - just rubs me the wrong way. I don't even really like Secret Hunter all that much because it lives and dies on Cloaked Huntress. Prefer deck design that's a bit more consistent and never reliant on one thing, unless it's a draw out your deck combo, which I don't think many people like lol.
Karsticles
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Reno rotates out soon, though.
It seems like they are doing with Reno what they did with Piloted Shredder. Add a class-specific version for each class so that the decks have more individuality.
Yeah looking forward to seeing how these decks shape out with Reno gone.
I'd rather each class have 2-3 high impact cards for the single card deck style, rather than one make or break card. Leads itself to more fun and balanced gameplay.
the mage reno legendary isn't must draw win condition card tho, its compliment to kazakus/or elise
And for renolock its known to had multiple win condition already, you can win with exhaust opp resource, leeroy combo or jaraxxus
I don't know about that priest leg yet, if you go to shadowform route then yes its can feel like that.. but its possible to build it around other win condition like N'zoth, control heavy style too so its not neccessary you always had to draw it or you lose
And for renolock its known to had multiple win condition already, you can win with exhaust opp resource, leeroy combo or jaraxxus
I don't know about that priest leg yet, if you go to shadowform route then yes its can feel like that.. but its possible to build it around other win condition like N'zoth, control heavy style too so its not neccessary you always had to draw it or you lose
Keep in mind I'm usually playing aggro, so they're usually dead before those alternate win conditions can really kick in. Slower decks it's a different story.
No shit breh your win condition vs aggro is to not dead, reno or not its not different
fun n balanced gameplay right there
Aggro is very fun, thanks for understanding!
There are so many card games right now, just not sure which ones to try.
Hearthstone, Faeria, Elder Scrolls, Eternal, Gwent?
it seem that alot of you forgetting that priest lacks good draw ( for now ) to make it top tier deck.The current cards will make priest a playable ( there is a bigger chance to survive the early game now ), but im not expecting it to be the go to ladder glass ( most of the cards are still situational ).
they get plenty of cheap spell, might've really easy to pull pyro + cleric shenanigan now
or shit, play Auctioneer
But I think they get some redundant removal like the cheap shadow madness already help a lot
Karsticles
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IMO the tiers are:
S Tier:
Duelyst
Infinity Wars
Eternal
A Tier:
Faeria
Hearthstone
Shadowverse
B Tier:
Elder Scrolls
Card Hunter
D Tier:
Gwent
Solforge
Spellweaver
But why not try them all?
Will try these out first - though I'm not a fan of pay2win models - yes, some people may say hearthstone is also sort of pay2win if you want to take ladder seriously, but so far I've just been playing casually and doing fine. I just don't want to get into a game and realise down the line that I need to pay to make progress where it counts.
So these are f2p or pay2win?
They're CCGs so that comes with the territory, but any of the recent ones is significantly more generous than HS.
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