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[Nirolak]

I'm trying to think of a whirlwind effect card in Warrior that hasn't seen play. The only one I'm coming up with is Sea Reaver.

Given the wording on that Warlock card, I also wonder if one of the new mechanics they're getting this set is returning discarded cards to their hand. They toyed a bit with this with their previous legendary.

 

[Officerrob]

Warrior weapon is really good, by far the best card shown so far

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Saw this on comphs subreddit: Leeroy + sudden genesis for 14 damage finisher. I'm ready for the meme decks.

That's a Chinese OTK combo that was popular for a short time. Combined with Don Hancho and Inner Rages for 30 damage from hand.

 

[sibarraz]

I have the feeling that warlock hero card will be "Can't be discarded" recover all your discarded cards" but still sounds very bad, unless they include something that modifies the hero power

 

[wiibomb]

Oof.. ok, just caught up with all the cards.

The shaman weapon is weird, do shaman wants a weapon like that? Not usually useful since they don't have much freeze effects. May be they are adding lots of freeze. Still doens't seem much more useful.

The warlock legendary as of today seems terrible, the card reminds me a lot of bolvar fordragon and that thing never saw play (easily removed, slow, expensive and never gamechanger). May be it will become good with later cards, we shall see.

The warrior weapons seems good. Whirwind effects are amazing with warrior and this is perfect for a control deck. This + sleep with the fishes can make serious work against current shaman token decks, or even the aggro druid.

 

[V-Faction]

The shaman weapon is weird, do shaman wants a weapon like that? Not usually useful since they don't have much freeze effects. May be they are adding lots of freeze. Still doens't seem much more useful.

Not unless there's other cards that benefit from the Frozen keyword. Then you could feasibly construct a Freeze Shaman depending on what cards they get.

 

[Drkirby]

I'm trying to think of a whirlwind effect card in Warrior that hasn't seen play. The only one I'm coming up with is Sea Reaver.

Given the wording on that Warlock card, I also wonder if one of the new mechanics they're getting this set is returning discarded cards to their hand. They toyed a bit with this with their previous legendary.

The big reason Sea Reaver doesn't see play is you can't control when it goes off. I expect this new weapon to see a lot of play, especially with it having two whirlwinds. At the very least it should be big in Wild.

 

[V-Faction]

....especially with it having two whirlwinds.

"Gee Garrosh, how come Ben Brode let's you have TWO Whirlwinds?"

Garrosh Hellscream: LOK'TAR O'GAR!!

 

[Pooya]

they printed a worse mistress of pain, amazing. that was a demon, you could buff it too. what is this.

that weapon isn't as broken as death's bite but it's still good. It's basically a 3 attack weapon, DB was 4 then 5 but two whirlwinds maybe is more relevant and make it easier to use. DB needed more set up.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I called that they'd add lifesteal to warlock. Hard to judge atm but I think people might underrate it a little bit. The main problem I see with it is that it activates on discards, which may not work well for a slower lock deck. And zoolock usually doesn't need heals. Maybe the attack buff is enough, but it probably needs to be 6 or higher to be worth it... so likely not. Dunno at this point. Too early to judge this card imo.

 

[Hybris]

I called that they'd add lifesteal to warlock.

I would think every class is going to get a piece of the new keyword

 

[Yaboosh]

The big reason Sea Reaver doesn't see play is you can't control when it goes off. I expect this new weapon to see a lot of play, especially with it having two whirlwinds. At the very least it should be big in Wild.

I think for this to see play in wild it would have to replace either war axe or deaths bite and I don't see either of those things happening.



Would the warlock legendary get buffed if you discard while it's on the board like cthun?

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I would think every class is going to get a piece of the new keyword

Not every class got elementals. I could see it happening but I haven't seen them say or suggest it.

 

[Hybris]

I think for this to see play in wild it would have to replace either war axe or deaths bite and I don't see either of those things happening.



Would the warlock legendary get buffed if you discard while it's on the board like cthun?

Yes it should.

 

[scarlet]

The first few videos after new expansion would be a compilation of warlock legendary get discarded.

 

[Ketch]

I really don't think they can make a balanced deck around discard without being able to interact with the discard pile.

It will either suck or be super broken.

 

[wiibomb]

The first few videos after new expansion would be a compilation of warlock legendary get discarded.

If the warlock hero card is is something like: 2 mana hero power, add a discarded minion to your hand. Then that actually isn't bad at all.

I also think we are still to early to judge anything seriously.

 

[Htown]

The first few videos after new expansion would be a compilation of warlock legendary get discarded.

Actually, if you run the dinomancer in that deck it might not matter too much

the attack buff isn't a battlecry, so if it's pulled back into play it will still have the buff

 

[TankUP]

http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/61816-prince-taldaram

 

[ZealousD]

That feels like a very underwhelming effect for such a restrictive condition. All it does is copy text from another card.

And it's still just a 3/3?

 

[Fersis]

http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/61816-prince-taldaram

3 Mana Malygos dream.
EDIT: Nevermind... you need a Malygos already in place.

 

[wiibomb]

http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/61816-prince-taldaram

I don't understand... 3/3 copy of a minions on the board now is enough to not have 3 cost cards in the whole deck?

And I thought keleseth was bad.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

stonehill defender is just better in most decks that would care for this effect

 

[Htown]

http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/61816-prince-taldaram

doesn't seem terribly strong

maybe you Barnes out something and then copy it?

 

[Grief.exe]

The princes are some meme cards.

They always have to print some cards for dust-rich streamers to play around with.

 

[Officerrob]

http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/61816-prince-taldaram

So I get rid of all 3 drops for a cheaper yet worse faceless manipulator?

 

[Schnauzer]

Well now that we got the bad legendary cards out of the way. On to the good ones? Faceless light with a bad restriction. YAY!

 

[QFNS]

He can also transform into a copy of an opponent's minion.

I feel like the prince cards are meant to be played together in some kind of meme deck where you only have the princes and get wacky effects in an otherwise spell based deck.

Hard to tell if this is good, because there are really some classes that just don't have good 3 drops. They usually have a couple 3 cost spells that you might be willing to forgo if you could get another copy of a card you already have. This guy might be garbage and might be ok. I don't see it being amazing, but who knows?

 

[Pooya]

I don't know what they are thinking. If it was a copy of a random minion in your deck it had some interesting deck building implications but this is just faceless for 2 discount, right? huh, why bother..

 

[Bacon_Boss]

Assuming they run with these archetypes I'd be interested in discard locks and freeze shaman. We got 2 frost elementals as neutrals last xp. Doubt kalimos and friends are going anywhere.

Discard lock needs a lot of tech though to make discarding manageable. Something to Target discards, spells that cast when discarded, and a way to bring discarded cards back.

 

[wiibomb]

What if there are 3 princes in this expansion and another card like mimiron's head where all 3 princes combine for a huuuuge minion?? Because, I mean, at this point that is the only excuse for this card, it beyond useless.

A much worse faceless manipulator. I'm bamboozled.

 

[Q8D3vil]

What the fuck is that trash, Reno had an insane effect with amazing stats and now we get this shit.

Spoiler

unless there are some insane synergy we dont know about yet.

 

[sibarraz]

The main problem with the princes, is that you are sacrificing 2 ot the most important turns (2-3) for cards that will not be worthy.

Prince 2 is a great card for turn 2, but most of the time you will never be able to play it on curve, so you will stay behind just for an effect that will not be worthy.

If this card were from 7-10, I think that they would have been better, sacrificing those turns is perfectly viable

 

[wiibomb]

Checking the Hearthpwn reveal page, there is yet another prince we don't know about. Prince Valanar.

And another card.

All on the page of keleseth and taldaram. There is something else we don't know about yet

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

before hydrologist the 2 drops for paladin were dreadful, at times I was only running doomsayers at 2 and would almost always hero power, there the prince would have been decent.

 

[QFNS]

I don't know what they are thinking. If it was a copy of a random minion in your deck it had some interesting deck building implications but this is just faceless for 2 discount, right? huh, why bother..

I mean there is probably some cool combos with this guy in Wild or something. And it isn't quite a faceless for 2 discount. Faceless copies the stats which would be much better in lots of cases (see Leeroy + PO + Faceless combo). This guy is mostly useful for text and I'm not sure which texts you'd really want to copy. Probably just guys with spell damage?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I mean there is probably some cool combos with this guy in Wild or something. And it isn't quite a faceless for 2 discount. Faceless copies the stats which would be much better in lots of cases (see Leeroy + PO + Faceless combo). This guy is mostly useful for text and I'm not sure which texts you'd really want to copy. Probably just guys with spell damage?

Tirion but Stonehill Defender gives you another Tirion anyways so why bother.

 

[cartographer]

Checking the Hearthpwn reveal page, there is yet another prince we don't know about. Prince Valanar.

And another card.

All on the pages of keleseth and taldaram. There is something else we don't know about yet

The three princes were the Blood Prince Council fight in the WoW raid. If expect a similar effect. I don't know that I would expect some sort of explicit synergy that requires three legendaries though.

This guy will be good for some meme decks at least.

 

[Ladekabel]

I welcome our new Princes-Hemet-package overlords.

 

[Karsticles]

Checking the Hearthpwn reveal page, there is yet another prince we don't know about. Prince Valanar.

And another card.

All on the page of keleseth and taldaram. There is something else we don't know about yet

I'll also withhold judgment until I see the full Prince set.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

a 3/3 for 3 is not that terrible, you can sorta play it like a tech card in a deck with a low amount of 3 drops. Keep it back till its useful or drop it when you need the tempo.

 

[Bacon_Boss]

There's a third prince. Here's hoping hes worth 4800 dust.

 

[Nirolak]

I feel that the Un'Goro Neutral Legendaries at least had some conceptual purpose within the set, so I'm guessing there's at least one obvious clone target in there where you'd really, really want to clone it for only 3 mana.

I'm not saying that deck will work out by any means, but I suspect it at least conceptually exists.

 

[Drkirby]

http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/61816-prince-taldaram

But why? I do like cards that have deck requirements though.

 

[Blizzard]

New card

*edit* Reference link: http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/3037-new-card-reveal-blood-queen-lanathel

English translation isn't official

*edit* Reference link: http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/3038-new-warrior-card-revealed-blood-razor

http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards/61816-prince-taldaram

Thanks for the link! <3

Does it also cost a durability?

I didn't notice if it cost a durability, sorry.

 

[Fersis]

I dont think that the discard mechanic can work in its current state, maybe if
the new Warlock hero power is: "Discover a discarted card".

Or something like a passive power like: "Everytime you discard a card, you summon a random demon"

 

[f0lken]

I dont think that the discard mechanic can work in its current state, maybe if
the new Warlock hero power is: "Discover a discarted card".

Or something like a passive power like: "Everytime you discard a card, you summon a random demon"

For 10 mana the card needs to be insanely crazy, like discover a discarded card and play 2 copies of it...

Watch it being something like "Choose what cards to discard" which would be great if it was a 2-3 cost card, but beyond useless in its current 10 cost slot

 

[LyleLanley]

My money is on the Warlock hero power returning discarded cards to your hand or deck.

 

[Fersis]

For 10 mana the card needs to be insanely crazy, like discover a discarded card and play 2 copies of it...

Watch it being something like "Choose what cards to discard" which would be great if it was a 2-3 cost card, but beyond useless in its current 10 cost slot

The hero card is 10 mana? Legit didnt knew.

 

[f0lken]

if the Jaina leak is true the Paladin hero is 9 cost and the Warlock is 10.