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[Wiz]

For those who want to compare last years model to the new one...

http://www.apple.com/mac/compare/re...-pro-2015-15&product2=macbook-pro-touchbar-15

Minus the Touch bar stuff, not a huge improvement imo. Definitely not worth the price.

 

[Interfectum]

Why would you plug the iPhone into the MacBook Pro?

Are you serious or trolling?

 

[VanquishUK]

Suddenly the new Razer Blade Pro looks like a bargain.

 

[jelly]

For comparison you can get

MacBook Pro 13in Touch Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD

$1799

Surface Pro 4, Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD and a Type Cover. Plus a $150 Microsoft Store Gift Card.

$1428.99

 

[KingKong]

They're still selling the previous ones, the new ones are purely for performance versions.

https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.5072642200


They actually showed Surface Book starting at 1500 yesterday during the conference after unveiling the new versions so it's not just people making assumptions.

ok but we're talking about brand new laptops. You can still buy an old Macbook Air or Pro too

 

[dark_chris]

Too pricey. Probably just buy an MSI gaming laptop and hacktinosh it

 

[Slimcea]

Well I was looking to upgrade from my 2010 15" MBP as it was getting extremely slow, but these new prices are really outrageous even with an education discount. $3.7K for a 15" with 16G RAM and just 512G storage? And that's with an older processor and a $300 education discount...

Time to look at other laptops I guess, good thing I wasn't very heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem.

 

[Leona Lewis]

I'm upgrading from a 4GB RAM-equipped Air. Is it OK to go with 8GB RAM, or does 16GB really help for someone who only ever has a couple Safari tabs open and maybe iTunes and Mail in the background?

I plan to use this laptop for the foreseeable future, so I'm not sure how much 16GB would help with future-proofing.

 

[Owari]

Surface Book comparisons are weird. A dual core 15W CPU isn't even on my radar. Especially for one that starts at $1500.

Yes I understand it's also a tablet and touchscreen. Don't care and don't need.

So, like on the new MBP?

 

[Mortemis]

For comparison you can get

MacBook Pro 13in Touch Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD

$1799

Surface Pro 4, Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD and a Type Cover. Plus a $150 Microsoft Store Gift Card.

$1428.99

Not really interested in a surface pro. How much for a surface book around the same specs? Edit: nvm I'll just look it up

 

[Frustrated_me]

For comparison you can get

MacBook Pro 13in Touch Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD

$1799

Surface Pro 4, Intel i5, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD and a Type Cover. Plus a $150 Microsoft Store Gift Card.

$1428.99

You forgot to mention:

+ Touch screen
+ detachable (tablet)
+ Surface Pen

 

[Sir Abacus]

Are you serious or trolling?

Wi-Fi Sync kind of removed the need to plug the iPhone into a Mac.

 

[Sullichin]

If i "upgraded" to the base 15" model, I'd have half the hard drive space I do now, same amount of RAM, USB ports I can't use without adaptors, no SD card slot, and it would be more expensive than what I paid for my current MBP.

If this thing was ::much:: cheaper, like a factor of several hundred dollars, I'd be on board and deal with the minor inconveniences and probably love this machine. But holy shit it's impossible to justify me buying this.

 

[FirewalkR]

So, 2799 dollars is 2699 pounds is 3299 FUCKING EUROS??????

Gotta love these conversion rates.

 

[VanquishUK]

Wi-Fi Sync kind of removed the need to plug the iPhone into a Mac.

Don't you need to plug in your iPhone at least once to turn WiFi syncing on though?

 

[icespide]

I'm upgrading from a 4GB RAM-equipped Air. Is it OK to go with 8GB RAM, or does 16GB really help for someone who only ever has a couple Safari tabs open and maybe iTunes and Mail in the background?

I plan to use this laptop for the foreseeable future, so I'm not sure how much 16GB would help with future-proofing.

If you can afford it go 16GB

 

[Majine]

Disappointed in no new iMac. The current one looks ancient compared to the Surface Studio.

 

[Frustrated_me]

Wi-Fi Sync kind of removed the need to plug the iPhone into a Mac.

Development.

Don't forget the developers who create the apps for your iPhone. The developers need to connect their iPhones to their Macbooks.

 

[grmlin]

I'm not saying Windows 10 is a bad system, even if I don't like the way it looks and feels. Thats just personal taste.

But do the Trackpads feel like the one on my Macbook now? Did they fix HDPI scaling? Do fonts still look like shit?

I use my Windows 10 PC for gaming, my MBP for work. I used a Windows 8 Touchscreen Samsung Notebook for a while and it was a pain. I even switched back to an ancient Macbook Pro until I got the Retina because I could not deal with it anymore.

 

[skynidas]

I'm upgrading from a 4GB RAM-equipped Air. Is it OK to go with 8GB RAM, or does 16GB really help for someone who only ever has a couple Safari tabs open and maybe iTunes and Mail in the background?

I plan to use this laptop for the foreseeable future, so I'm not sure how much 16GB would help with future-proofing.

save some money and get 16gb

 

[Lixhul]

The problem that Apple has now is that everyone has caught up. Apple haven't really innovated anything in quite some time, but now these prices, for what else is out there, are insane.

I was interested in the non-Touch Bar version (no one will use it), but at £1449.00 you can bugger off. No chance. The Surface Book blows this out of the water Apple, get with the times.

The Touch Bar should have been a new line of Mac: MacBook Touch or something. Now a MacBook Pro isn't a MacBook Pro.

 

[zigg]

I manage all my podcasts from my iphone using Downcast. I can easily take a podcast, listen to it on my earphones, then tell my Echo to pair to my phone and listen to it on those speakers, I can then go to my desktop PC and hit a button to connect it to bluetooth and resume listening on my PC speakers....the one fucking place I cannot stream my podcasts from my iphone, is to my macbook. This the the first macbook I have ever owned, and it is exactly what I was looking for in a laptop, but I was dumbfounded when I googled how to pair an iphone to a macbook and discovered it is not supported at all.

You can AirPlay to any computer with software like AirServer. https://www.airserver.com/Download/MacPC

 

[-griffy-]

Why do you need 1TB if you're comparing against the 512gb MacBook?

Get the i7, 512gb Surface Book. I did.

I'm not comparing against the 512GB MBP though?

The equivalently specced MBP (i7, 1TB, 2GB GPU, 16GB RAM) is $2999 to the Surface's $3299. Too much money in both cases considering neither of them even have the specs I'd actually like to have as an upgrade to what I have now. Shit's too expensive.

 

[gutterboy44]

I guess you wouldn't be able to do it in that scenario. I don't know why anyone would not just use the podcasts app and iTunes on your computer. It saves your position in that case.

The built in podcast app still does not have all of the features I like on Downcast. It is better than when it first launched, but still can't customize things to the extent that suits my needs. iTunes is also a no go across the board.

You can AirPlay to any computer with software like AirServer. https://www.airserver.com/Download/MacPC

I know there are workarounds, the fact that I can do it without a workaround with every blutooth device I own, including a Windows PC, but not my one other Apple product, is a bit ridiculous to me.

 

[giga]

So, like on the new MBP?

No? The 2.9ghz model is 28W and the 15" quad cores are 45W.

 

[baddvision]

guess i'm not getting a new mac, these prices are ridiculous. but what i find more outrageous is now apple's charging for the AC extension plug. they use to include that. wtf

 

[Guess Who]

so like

anyone in apple-employeeGAF feel like hooking me up with a 15% friends and family

 

[LegendOfGood]

Severely disappointed.

I've been at the tipping point for awhile with Apple, but this may have finally sealed it for me.

 

[petethepanda]

These prices were a bit easier to swallow back when memory and storage were easily upgradable and you didn't need to buy half a dozen adapters.

(My last MBP was mid-2009, though, so I know we're already a few years into this horrifying future)

 

[icespide]

guess i'm not getting a new mac, these prices are ridiculous. but what i find more outrageous is now apple's charging for the AC extension plug. they use to include that. wtf

Oh that is lame

 

[Joel Was Right]

I'm upgrading from a 4GB RAM-equipped Air. Is it OK to go with 8GB RAM, or does 16GB really help for someone who only ever has a couple Safari tabs open and maybe iTunes and Mail in the background?

I plan to use this laptop for the foreseeable future, so I'm not sure how much 16GB would help with future-proofing.

8GB is more than enough.

 

[samn]

Development.

Don't forget the developers who create the apps for your iPhone. The developers need to connect their iPhones to their Macbooks.

developers can afford to buy another cable and they're also the least likely kind of customer to buy a different laptop because the accessories cost too much

 

[Mortemis]

So I've been wondering, is there any difference between this P3/ wide color gamut screens that apple talks about and HDR? Is it the same thing?

 

[lovely ladies]

I'm upgrading from a 4GB RAM-equipped Air. Is it OK to go with 8GB RAM, or does 16GB really help for someone who only ever has a couple Safari tabs open and maybe iTunes and Mail in the background?

I plan to use this laptop for the foreseeable future, so I'm not sure how much 16GB would help with future-proofing.

8's fine, 16 is overkill. 4 would still be fine for what you're using it for if you had a current Air.

 

[Owari]

If i "upgraded" to the base 15" model, I'd have half the hard drive space I do now, same amount of RAM, USB ports I can't use without adaptors, no SD card slot, and it would be more expensive than what I paid for my current MBP.

This is what is baffling my mind right now. How does Apple not see this? Why do they not plan for this? How can they not know that no one can really "upgrade" to this? They really think they can just bank on people new to MacBooks to buy this cause it has an emoji bar? This is what's going to save the plummeting Mac sales?

What are they thinking? Legit worried about Apple right now. I used to be the biggest fan but the past few years have really been rough for them. And where was the real AppleTV app? Why did they act like these stopgaps are the best thing ever?

 

[Jenotron]

Have any Adode CC professional video editors made the switch from Mac to Windows and can tell me of their experience? I haven't used a PC in fifteen years but I can't take this anymore.

 

[mcrommert]

? https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.5074012200

really, high end laptops are just expensive. Even the Dell XPS 13 is $1150 if you want 8 gigs of ram and 256gb of memory and it goes up to $1600 if you want a high res display

ok but we're talking about brand new laptops. You can still buy an old Macbook Air or Pro too

What difference does it make...they are all skylake

 

[Glix]

Did they hire Kutaragi or someting? Those prices are lunacy!

I'm not taking a second job for a fucking macbook!

 

[Interfectum]

Wi-Fi Sync kind of removed the need to plug the iPhone into a Mac.

When I updated to the new iOS10, Apple fucked up the OTA update and the phone wouldn't work until I hard connected it to a Mac. Also it's needed for development.

 

[Frustrated_me]

developers can afford to buy another cable and they're also the least likely kind of customer to buy a different laptop because the accessories cost too much

And that makes it OK how exactly?

 

[edgefusion]

These prices are absolutely ridiculous.
What kind of Windows PC can I expect for £1,000 or less?

 

[Dinjooh]

Have any Adode CC professional video editors made the switch from Mac to Windows and can tell me of their experience? I haven't used a PC in fifteen years but I can't take this anymore.

We made the switch from FCPX to Premiere on Windows around 3 years ago.

Really not much to it though. Anything in particular you're interested in?

 

[mcrommert]

Have any Adode CC professional video editors made the switch from Mac to Windows and can tell me of their experience? I haven't used a PC in fifteen years but I can't take this anymore.

I don't know about the specifics...but the new surface can switch between color spaces (adobe rgb, etc) with a button press on the notification center

 

[wachie]

Apple is really dropping the ball, today was just the prime example.

 

[BluenoseGames]

Looking for a laptop for video editing with a budget of £1000. Any suggestions?

 

[samn]

And that makes it OK how exactly?

There is no 'OK' or 'not OK'. If you don't mind the lack of that particular port then go ahead and buy it. If you do mind it then don't. Apple aren't going to include a port they want to accelerate the demise of just so iOS developers don't have to spend 20 bucks on a cable.

This isn't even a 'evil Apple vendor lock in' situation seeing as USB-C can be used by anyone.

 

[curls]

Compared to those MS Surface gifs posted here the touch bar looks uninspired and dull.
The pricing (£) is a joke. As a current 15" MBP user I was looking to get a 13" for work, I just can't be bothered with these as they are.

 

[RDreamer]

Are the new (non-touchbar) 13s in store now? I kind of want to play around with the keyboard and touchpad and see how that is at least.

Overall I'm so torn right now. If I'm dropped $3k on a laptop I kind of want a hybrid like the surface pro, but I don't really want to run windows or migrate to windows.... also if I'm dropping $3k on a laptop I don't want dongles as far as the eye can see. Speccing something equivalent to the Surface Book and I get way more functionality with the Surface Book...

 

[Frustrated_me]

I'm baffled here.

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

Is there any good way to edit my Lightroom photos/library (adding about 1,000 photos a month) between both a Mac and windows system?