Hemlock Grove - The third and final season - All episodes October 23
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Caelestis
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Kinda watched the whole thing over the last few days. Found first half of second season completely boring, but got better in the second half. The ending...
Was hoping so much those two would die falling off the roof top. I guess we'll be stuck with more of their drama in season 3 if it happens.
rocketskates
Member
That ending.
Not a damn thing got answered.
Not a damn thing got answered.
The Pryscilla or however you spell it thing got answered.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Ok, I finished watching it last week during my "vacation" and Season 2 is such an amazing improvement over Season 1 its ridiculous.
Season 1 had a better mystery and a lot better chemistry between Roman and Peter, but Miranda RUINED that dynamic completely in Season 2. I despise her character. She started out okay, but in Episode 5 when she was talking to Roman I was begging for her long ass "heartfelt" scene (before they banged) to stop. It was so painful. Then I realized every single scene with her after this point was pretty much useless or annoying. She ruined a lot of Season 2 because there was SO much focus on her. She was lactating every 5 minutes, and she was also naked just about as much, and was having sex every episode. WE GET IT, SHE'S HOT, AND SHE'S GOT BOOBS. FUCKING HELL!! The threesome was weird; I didn’t know what the fuck she was talking about before they went upstairs – I didn’t even know they were talking about having sex all together until the start of the episode where they were all in bed together.
I wish they would cut out some of the bullshit, and focus more on Roman and Peter solving the overall mystery more than some of this random bullshit they put in the show. The killers were a bunch of chumps, but at least they were interesting. The redneck guy was hilarious. Too bad they're "removing" some of the actors I actually like -- Peter's mom and Norman. Guess they can't afford them anymore?
Peter didn’t tow one truck. Why the fuck is he getting paid to drive around in a tow truck? The only reason they have him have that job is because they are lazy and don’t want to have him without a car. It would have been more believable if Roman gave him a car. There were so many weird, lazy “things” they did that don’t make any sense. They don’t know how to pace any of it out, which is why for the second time in a row we get this “WTF JUST HAPPENED” episode as a finale where a million things happen.
The whole Shelley storyline was also fucking useless and boring. They needed to speed that shit up and condense it into the last 5 episodes or something. I don’t know what the fuck is up with the vargul coming back for all of 10 seconds just to get killed again? I thought we already went through that. Also, LOL at Shelley giving that kid one of her fingers?? The fuck??
And what the fuck was that doctor supposed to be? Gargoyle snake dragon thing?
I wish we had more of an X-Files type show with the characters involved. Half of it being Monster-of-the-week with the mystery stuff only and then mythos stuff every other episode. Obviously they only have 10 episodes a season, so it wouldn’t really benefit from that format. Ugh is all I can say.
At the end of it all, I think Season 2 would have been great if they didn’t have Miranda at all.
also, i loved that scene where Roman was biting Miranda and blood was gushing everywhere. WHERE IS MORE OF THAT!?!?
Season 1 had a better mystery and a lot better chemistry between Roman and Peter, but Miranda RUINED that dynamic completely in Season 2. I despise her character. She started out okay, but in Episode 5 when she was talking to Roman I was begging for her long ass "heartfelt" scene (before they banged) to stop. It was so painful. Then I realized every single scene with her after this point was pretty much useless or annoying. She ruined a lot of Season 2 because there was SO much focus on her. She was lactating every 5 minutes, and she was also naked just about as much, and was having sex every episode. WE GET IT, SHE'S HOT, AND SHE'S GOT BOOBS. FUCKING HELL!! The threesome was weird; I didn’t know what the fuck she was talking about before they went upstairs – I didn’t even know they were talking about having sex all together until the start of the episode where they were all in bed together.
I wish they would cut out some of the bullshit, and focus more on Roman and Peter solving the overall mystery more than some of this random bullshit they put in the show. The killers were a bunch of chumps, but at least they were interesting. The redneck guy was hilarious. Too bad they're "removing" some of the actors I actually like -- Peter's mom and Norman. Guess they can't afford them anymore?
Peter didn’t tow one truck. Why the fuck is he getting paid to drive around in a tow truck? The only reason they have him have that job is because they are lazy and don’t want to have him without a car. It would have been more believable if Roman gave him a car. There were so many weird, lazy “things” they did that don’t make any sense. They don’t know how to pace any of it out, which is why for the second time in a row we get this “WTF JUST HAPPENED” episode as a finale where a million things happen.
The whole Shelley storyline was also fucking useless and boring. They needed to speed that shit up and condense it into the last 5 episodes or something. I don’t know what the fuck is up with the vargul coming back for all of 10 seconds just to get killed again? I thought we already went through that. Also, LOL at Shelley giving that kid one of her fingers?? The fuck??
And what the fuck was that doctor supposed to be? Gargoyle snake dragon thing?
I wish we had more of an X-Files type show with the characters involved. Half of it being Monster-of-the-week with the mystery stuff only and then mythos stuff every other episode. Obviously they only have 10 episodes a season, so it wouldn’t really benefit from that format. Ugh is all I can say.
At the end of it all, I think Season 2 would have been great if they didn’t have Miranda at all.
also, i loved that scene where Roman was biting Miranda and blood was gushing everywhere. WHERE IS MORE OF THAT!?!?
Karsticles
Member
The early
scene was extremely confusing, I agree. I still don't get it.
However, I think that
leaves the show for an important reason. He grounds himself in her. She centers him. His loss of control needed to be complimented by his solitude.
Vargul
However, I think that
Peter's Mom
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
sure, i can see that. but, considering the writers (and the budget of the show), i wouldn't really give a whole lot of credence to the idea haha. I'd be surprised if that was what their actual intent was.
i liked Destiny a lot, it was pretty funny that the first 10 seconds of the show was her undressing. i was sort of surprised that they weren't wasting any time in that regard.
Karsticles
Member
Final? :-(
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
NetFlix has, from day one, touted a three season series formula. I expect the same from Orange and Cards.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
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HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
It was in a Vanity Fair article about Arrested Development.
It's late and I'm basically Chunk from The Goonies at this point. I could be talking out my ass, or NetFlix could just always say "fuck it, we'll do it live". I was wrong about Halt and Catch Fire.
Karsticles
Member
That would be news to me. Interesting.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Holy shit. 3 seasons. The last episode of season 3 is going to be a complete mind fuck if the last 2 finales are anything to go by
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I'm going through season 2 now - so far it seems to be an improvement over the first season. Some of the actors evidently got acting lessons in between seasons and the change in creative is quite apparent. Thank god.
Other thoughts:
Famke's new accent sounds kind of strange (is that her irl accent?), but despite being glad that they got rid of the dreadful British accent she used in the first season, I find it hilarious that they actually decided to change it in the first place. (and the way they got rid of it was amazing - her son bit her tongue off and she had to relearn how to speak after the doctors stitched it back on. lol)
Clunky Bit #1: The sheriff, one of the main characters from the first season, was killed off screen because he apparently built a bomb in his basement (for some reason) and (purposely/accidentally) blew himself up. Off screen. Huh.
Clunky Bit #2: "Wise fwom yo gwave, Cwristina!"
...5 seconds later she somehow finds Shelley and 5 seconds after that Shelley rips her head off and Christina the Vargulf is no more. Okay.
New Shelley kind of sucks btw. I hate recasts.
Other thoughts:
Famke's new accent sounds kind of strange (is that her irl accent?), but despite being glad that they got rid of the dreadful British accent she used in the first season, I find it hilarious that they actually decided to change it in the first place. (and the way they got rid of it was amazing - her son bit her tongue off and she had to relearn how to speak after the doctors stitched it back on. lol)
Clunky Bit #1: The sheriff, one of the main characters from the first season, was killed off screen because he apparently built a bomb in his basement (for some reason) and (purposely/accidentally) blew himself up. Off screen. Huh.
Clunky Bit #2: "Wise fwom yo gwave, Cwristina!"
...5 seconds later she somehow finds Shelley and 5 seconds after that Shelley rips her head off and Christina the Vargulf is no more. Okay.
New Shelley kind of sucks btw. I hate recasts.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
For fuck's sake, stop saying "Lady Lawyer" people!
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Finished! It's still a bad show, but overall the second season was way more entertaining than the first. Writing, acting, effects - all still bad but better than the first season for sure.
One thing - I don't feel like anything of consequence really happened with most of the characters:
Roman spends all season not wanting to be an upir, comes close to becoming human, decides to stay upir in the last episode.
Olivia spends all season trying to be nice, comes close to making it stick, decides to become evil again in the last episode.
Shelley decides she wants the new body, comes close to getting her wish, mom eats new body in the last episode.
Peter spends all season trying not to turn into a vargulf, turns into a vargulf anyway, no biggie upir can fix it.
What was the point of setting up all of that up if none of it was actually going to lead to something?
Also, WHAT THE FUCK @ the ending?!
I felt that way after watching the first season, but, oddly enough, I don't regret having watched season two.
Both of those scenes were awesome.
Like, well, every other aspect of the plot (of both seasons), that was completely incoherent and dumb.
That was such a dumb waste of time. Norman should have been killed off much earlier in the season and Shelley should have been found much earlier as well.
WTF
Yep. Completely incoherent.
WTF
WTF
WTF
Haha, exactly!
She really started to suck towards the end, but I didn't mind her in the first couple of episodes.
I still don't understand any of that lactation shit. WTF
LOL
I loved that. It was so ridiculously over the top.
One thing - I don't feel like anything of consequence really happened with most of the characters:
Roman spends all season not wanting to be an upir, comes close to becoming human, decides to stay upir in the last episode.
Olivia spends all season trying to be nice, comes close to making it stick, decides to become evil again in the last episode.
Shelley decides she wants the new body, comes close to getting her wish, mom eats new body in the last episode.
Peter spends all season trying not to turn into a vargulf, turns into a vargulf anyway, no biggie upir can fix it.
What was the point of setting up all of that up if none of it was actually going to lead to something?
Also, WHAT THE FUCK @ the ending?!
I felt that way after watching the first season, but, oddly enough, I don't regret having watched season two.
Both of those scenes were awesome.
Like, well, every other aspect of the plot (of both seasons), that was completely incoherent and dumb.
That was such a dumb waste of time. Norman should have been killed off much earlier in the season and Shelley should have been found much earlier as well.
WTF
Yep. Completely incoherent.
WTF
WTF
WTF
Haha, exactly!
She really started to suck towards the end, but I didn't mind her in the first couple of episodes.
I still don't understand any of that lactation shit. WTF
LOL
I loved that. It was so ridiculously over the top.
thecouncil
Banned
It's baaaaaaack. Season 3 teaser. On Netflix October 23.
does anyone care anymore? I do... Season 2 was pretty good. Surprised I even watched it after Season 1 being so bad.
does anyone care anymore? I do... Season 2 was pretty good. Surprised I even watched it after Season 1 being so bad.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Unfortunately I care.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Freya Tingley? I wonder if she's somehow back again or if that's just a mistake?
I personally can't wait to see what kind of batshit stuff they have planned for this season. More lizard people/flying manta ray conspiracy stuff plz!
I was kinda hoping it would be out in September, given how empty the current schedule is. Either way, can't wait for the final season.
I don't see how, it makes no sense, but then again I didn't expect
to appear in the season two finale.
Oh yeah. I'm hoping for all kinds of craziness. This show is the right kind of bad.
I don't see how, it makes no sense, but then again I didn't expect
a giant flying manta ray that used to work as a doctor
Oh yeah. I'm hoping for all kinds of craziness. This show is the right kind of bad.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Halloween, yo!
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
GuitarAtomik
Member
Dat poster.
Didn't realize this was coming so soon. Looking forward to more WTFery.
Didn't realize this was coming so soon. Looking forward to more WTFery.
Cyber Caesar
Member
They picked a great month to release this. I don't watch many shows like this, so this was a nice change of pace for me.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
So, someone refresh my memory: what was Dr. Gargoyle's plan again?
BlackGhost
Banned
Personally thought s1 ended strongly and interesting. I was wierd and kinda cheesy but the good kind. S2 had some fuckery that made me say "what" and the wrong kind of bad/cheesy for me....... But I'm in for this...😳
Lessgo
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Thanks.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Watched the first two episodes last night - of course they open the season with a truck driver talking to a blow up doll and then getting a blowjob from it.
Other thoughts:
WTF was that giant pale salamander/mudkip baby thing that the scientists threw into the wood chipper or whatever? The prop for it actually looked fairly impressive so I'm surprised they only used it for that one small scene. (unless it comes back pleasegodletitcomeback)
Famke Janssen is making me howl - she's chewing scenery like there's no tomorrow (which is perfect seeing as how this is the final season). I was initially disappointed that her death in the season one finale didn't stick but I'm so glad they brought her back.
Other thoughts:
WTF was that giant pale salamander/mudkip baby thing that the scientists threw into the wood chipper or whatever? The prop for it actually looked fairly impressive so I'm surprised they only used it for that one small scene. (unless it comes back pleasegodletitcomeback)
Famke Janssen is making me howl - she's chewing scenery like there's no tomorrow (which is perfect seeing as how this is the final season). I was initially disappointed that her death in the season one finale didn't stick but I'm so glad they brought her back.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Yeah, he's still trying to give Shelly a new body.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Up through episode 7:
Peter's story this season is...underwhelming to say the least. I mean, he's rolling with a gang of werewolves but there hasn't been any werewolf action since the first few minutes of the premiere. And the Croatian mob? Hew carez give me moar reptoids and vargulfs and telepathic babbys.
And what's up with Shelly's hobo adventures? It seems so random and disconnected from everything else that's happening on the show.
Saw the "daughter" twist coming from a mile away - but only because I had read that recap that I posted earlier which reminded me that Olivia gave birth when she was a teenager. Would have been a good twist otherwise.
Roman has now fucked 2 of his 3 sisters. *ahem*
Johann has been highly entertaining this season. I couldn't believe when he touched that bloody glove to his eye and almost died from the infection. lol
Why is Olivia turning into a zompire slower than all the others?
Speaking of Olivia, her hallucination boyfriend is amazing.
RIP Destiny. What an anticlimactic way to go.
Still no sign of mudkip baby
And what's up with Shelly's hobo adventures? It seems so random and disconnected from everything else that's happening on the show.
Saw the "daughter" twist coming from a mile away - but only because I had read that recap that I posted earlier which reminded me that Olivia gave birth when she was a teenager. Would have been a good twist otherwise.
Roman has now fucked 2 of his 3 sisters. *ahem*
Johann has been highly entertaining this season. I couldn't believe when he touched that bloody glove to his eye and almost died from the infection. lol
Why is Olivia turning into a zompire slower than all the others?
Speaking of Olivia, her hallucination boyfriend is amazing.
RIP Destiny. What an anticlimactic way to go.
Still no sign of mudkip baby
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The finale:
I realize they said 'no happy endings'. But holy fuck. That final episode was almost like a reboot of the entire series. It was depressing as fuck, and Roman's last words echoed that. It was so depressing. Holy shit. I'd go over it inch by inch but you guys read spoilers. The final shot was so fucking depressing.... none of it mattered. Upirs, werewolves, humans.... they are still fucked.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Seriously, right? I mean, that was just.... that was fucking ridiculous.
I also loved Spivak's story. The payoff was really the most fantastic story this series has told.
I also loved Spivak's story. The payoff was really the most fantastic story this series has told.
I liked Spivak's story and character, but I don't think they handled it well. Maybe it's just because I had expected something very different after last season and thought it would be the driving plot of the last season. I don't know, but the whole serial killer and/or cult and/or prophecy stuff made me expect something bigger or different.
It was apparent for a while that
most of these characters would not get a happy ending, but it was still pretty amazing how far the show went to screw everyone over.
That said, Peter is an idiot. I mean they're all idiots one way or another, but Peter really stands out.
This got a third season? How? I don't even understand how it got a second season. Absolutely no one I knew who watched the first season wanted to ever watch anything related to it again. Most people I knew didn't even make it all the way through the first season. Does it have some sort of bizarre following of masochists or something?
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Just finished the final episode:
I thought that was an appropriate way for the show to end - Johann is killed by one of his experiments; Annie burns herself alive to atone for her sins; Olivia goes crazy and ends up alone - eating herself before she dies; Roman is killed by Peter, who is then stuck in the body of a wolf forever. The only character who actually deserved a happy ending was Shelley, and she got it.
All in all, I thought that was a pretty good way to end the series. The show's always been a godawful mess, but at least seasons 2 and 3 were fun to watch. I'm not sad to see the show end though.
Other thoughts:
The dual Olivias in episode 7 was really fun. That dude was good at impersonating Famke Janssen.
Man giving birth to baby manta rays in giant hot tub: WTF
Peter's final wolf transformation was awesome.
Baby Manta Ray lives! Huzzah!
All in all, I thought that was a pretty good way to end the series. The show's always been a godawful mess, but at least seasons 2 and 3 were fun to watch. I'm not sad to see the show end though.
Other thoughts:
The dual Olivias in episode 7 was really fun. That dude was good at impersonating Famke Janssen.
Man giving birth to baby manta rays in giant hot tub: WTF
Peter's final wolf transformation was awesome.
Baby Manta Ray lives! Huzzah!
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Um, not at all. Maybe that character is safe for now.
You watched the final shot right?
Nobody fucking is surviving. Nobody.
The Reptoids are coming back, and now that Roman, Peter, Pryce, and that other Upir are gone... the world is fucked.
EDIT: Wow, Johan Pryce jumped from Hemlock to Man in the High Castle. Dude is making some ridiculously awesome career moves.
Finished season 3. Let's say, that i am not going to miss this series but it had it's moments. First season was intriguing, second was step backwards and now, season 3 was boring tbh, it felt like they tried too much.
Spivak's character and actor was good, also Price was solid. Ending was something which seemed to fit to this series, grim and gloomy, i liked it. Everyone got what was coming to them. Other than that, season 3 wasn't very good.
Overall, this was confusing, messy and weird (and not always in a good way) series. Writing was mostly poor mixed with nonsense and ridiculous stuff. WTF is good way to describe most of the things what was happening all the time. But well, that's Hemlock Grove. And that's partly a reason why i liked it, and that campy atmosphere, few characters. It could have been a great series with better writing, now it's a mediocre, riding with its own weirdness.
Spivak's character and actor was good, also Price was solid. Ending was something which seemed to fit to this series, grim and gloomy, i liked it. Everyone got what was coming to them. Other than that, season 3 wasn't very good.
Overall, this was confusing, messy and weird (and not always in a good way) series. Writing was mostly poor mixed with nonsense and ridiculous stuff. WTF is good way to describe most of the things what was happening all the time. But well, that's Hemlock Grove. And that's partly a reason why i liked it, and that campy atmosphere, few characters. It could have been a great series with better writing, now it's a mediocre, riding with its own weirdness.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
A reptoid is as much as weve seen. And if the upirs of the past figured out how to wipe them out before, whos to say they wont figure it out again. In essence, the story can play out again sometime in the future as it did these last two seasons.
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