bzm said:
Also, what do you guys build on ranged carries like flint, fa as a first item? I used to always go geo as my first real item, but now I feel like its not always the best choice
Depending on your GPM / Team setup this is the way you want to go.
Setup A
Assuming you have an AoE teamfight heavy team, heroes such as Magmus, Behemoth, Tempest, Zeus, Engineer, Slither, Keeper of the Forest, Pestilence. You will maybe consider getting something like a Thunderclaw into Charged Hammer, Geometers Bane, Wingbow, build. With the above heroes on your team, you should be able to successfully initiate, have enough AoE damage, as well as have some type of protection in the form of stuns, walls, and disables to not worry much about being bursted down by the other team. This build becomes better and better depending on the supports that your team has, if you have healers such as Demented Shaman you can focus less on survivability and more on pure DPS, also if your playing Flint and can manage your positioning well, you should be safe.
Phase Boots -> Soul Scream Ring -> Chain lightning -> Charged Hammer -> Firebrand -> Wingbow -> Geometers Bane.
Setup B
Myrmidon, Bubbles, Jereziah, Deadwood, Rampage, Tundra, Accursed, Soul Reaper, Torturer, etc. This setup has less team fight potential and focuses more on the DPS of the carry, because heroes like Flint and FA don't have the escape mechanisms that the melee carries have you will want to go survivability / damage hybrids. Get a Frostburn -> Geo's or Frostwolf depending on whether you feel like the slow / HP is more important. I always go Frostburn first just because I get more survivability. After that you want to get a Wingbow, or MKB depending on what you feel you need more. I feel that this is the stronger build, compared to the Thunderclaw build, because you will survive in fights longer, and although your taking a slight dps loss, you will survive longer. This build is especially popular on Flint because of the range and ministun on Headshot.
Steamboots -> Soul Scream Ring -> Frostburn -> Frostwolf Skull -> Geometer's Bane -> Wingbow -> MKB -> Buyback Money.
I'm not a fan of the Geometer's Bane first build because of the change to the cost of the recipe, it just takes much longer to farm compared to the old iteration.