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[kirblar]

There is nothing interesting about Kael's damage - you're just throwing nukes from a distance without having to work for it like Azmodan. He's always gong to have high damage- this level of damage is just incredibly un-fun.

Jaina actually got much less interesting after the damage buff. Previously she was a good hero who was comp-dependent - you wanted her with Tyrael/Stitches-style comps, not so much in others. Post-damage buff she just gets first picked all the time.

If the only interesting thing about the character is their damage, you're doing something wrong when designing them.

 

[Maledict]

I just hate the way Kael goes from a hard to play hero that requires incredibly fast skill usage and decision making to one that just uses empowered Flamestrike every 7 seconds without question.

Keep the damage - the game is fine having late bloomers who turn into terrors in the endgame. But give him more options that rely on skill rather than just aiming a flamestrike - that's the core of his character and trait, but currently the poor placement and design of his talents prevents that from being an endgame option.

 

[Yoshichan]

4 wins in a row with Arthas

I guess he's good in QM and shit in pro play or something?

 

[Rhaknar]

kinda falling in love with Sylvannas, so fun

 

[Maledict]

4 wins in a row with Arthas

I guess he's good in QM and shit in pro play or something?

He's actually one of the highest win rate heroes in the game at master level now, and was drafted several times in the recent big tournaments.

He's not a tank for all seasons, but he does have a place in meta. Either as a counter to melee heavy teams with his AE root and slow, or as a enabler for others to kill stuff (the video of butcher plus Arthas as a roaming gank squad was very funny - spoiler, EVERYTHING DIES!).

He also has a very niche spot on maps where your have NPCs pushing for you - Sindrigosa will shut down thE towers and forts for 10 seconds which can be quite powerful in the right circumstances. A long range, mini Sylvanas effect.

 

[kirblar]

4 wins in a row with Arthas

I guess he's good in QM and shit in pro play or something?

He's insane on Spider Queen with Ultra 2.

They just need to buff the U1 so he can get sustain back for if he needs to be a damage sponge.

 

[Skab]

Haven't been home long. No patch today?

 

[Alur]

4 wins in a row with Arthas

I guess he's good in QM and shit in pro play or something?

He's insane on Spider Queen with Ultra 2.

We had good success with him + Sindragosa on Battlefield of Eternity as well.

Feels like those two maps with their push mechanics are good matches for his current incarnation.

 

[super-famicom]

kinda falling in love with Sylvannas, so fun

I have a lot of fun with Sylvanas too, but my win rate with her is abysmal (21.7%). I used her a lot when I first started HOTS and recently have actually stopped playing as her and have been going with Zagara if I play a specialist. I've always done solo QM with her, so bad comps may be to blame. But I probably just need to git gud and play better.

 

[Zafir]

I think I get it. So basically I have a higher MMR and it's superficially connected to my low rank, making me play with/against high ranked folks. And the game is giving me a lot of rank points to boost and catch me up to whatever rank they think I should be? Is that the gist of it? I'm not a veteran player but I'm definitely not new either. I've probably played around 600 games.

My friends were giving me shit saying my stimpack is doing it and what not lol, but that wouldn't make sense for a stimpack to boost your rank points! I just wanted to get some clarity on it so I understand better. My excuse before was "I'm getting higher skill points than ya'll cuz obviously I'm better lolol."

You got it, yeah.

The skill points will peter out once you either reach about 100 games which is when those bonus points stop, or you reach the rank where your mmr should be.

Gotta remember this is still the first season of ranked and it's still labeled "preseason", I gotta imagine there's a bunch of changes in the works for the rank system.

Well they already talked about a lot of those changes. Like the fact they are introducing a proper placement period, not the half-arsed one that they have at the moment which just makes your MMR far more volatile.

Wish that meant a MMR reset too, but I doubt they will.

 

[Yoshichan]

7 wins in a row

Frostmourne hungers...

 

[Cerato]

It's a little late for this, but I just discovered a Sgt. Hammer spec that is super fun:

You take 1) Ambush, 4) Focused Attack, 7) First Aid, 10) Napalm Strike, 13) Giant Killer, 16) Hover Siege Mode and 20) Fury of the Storm

The whole point of this build is to hit as hard as possible from stealth. My first auto attack was hitting for about 750, and a napalm strike usually landed right on top of it. Suuuper fun and trolly.

 

[Opiate]

Fun-tier-list
God fun: Zagara, Kael'thas, Sylvanas, Jaina
High fun: Thrall, Zeratul, Valla, Kerrigan, Falstad, Tyrael
Medium fun: Johanna, Tychus, Anub'arak, Malfurion, Illidan
Low fun: Li Li, Raynor, Nova
Trash: Muradin

Time for some DPS Arthas action.

I seem to have very different preferences than you in all Blizzard games: Kael'thas and Jaina are the two least fun champions to me.

 

[Rhaknar]

mounts reseting is the worst bug. the worst.

I cant lili without my pink pony damn it

 

[Alur]

Where Leoric at? That's all I wanna know. Where da fuq is Leoric?! Huh? Blizz? Blizz? Look at me. LOOK AT ME! WHERE DA FUQ IS LEORIC?! HUH?!! I don't want these Butcher playin' motherfuckers hogging queue slots. I want my own man.

 

[Rhaknar]

people dying to boss stuns in the new stage (or any stage really) makes me sad

 

[TxdoHawk]

people dying to boss stuns in the new stage (or any stage really) makes me sad

It seems like the stuns come out way faster in the new map + you are much more frequently flghting the enemy team in the space around immortals = way easier to get caught, IMO, especially with a slow character. (I haven't died, but I've gotten hit more times than I'd care to admit. :x)

 

[jaundicejuice]

The Immortal stun is faster than others (like Grave Golem/Boss), people see the telegraph but sometimes think they have more time to get out of the AoE.

I need to learn how to make gifs, as a nearly dead Kael'thas I caught two heroes chasing in a verdant sphere empowered Lapsed Gravity under our Immortal, both died in the massive AoE stun. The timing was perfect.

 

[Alur]

It seems like the stuns come out way faster in the new map + you are much more frequently flghting the enemy team in the space around immortals = way easier to get caught, IMO, especially with a slow character. (I haven't died, but I've gotten hit more times than I'd care to admit. :x)

That's part of why I really dislike the new map. Depending on the RNG, the stuns come out so fast it's hard to get any real damage in some heroes. I just feel like the whole thing is too protracted and it seems like just as often wiping first is a benefit as it is a detriment early on a-la Haunted Mines.

Your best bet is standing right under the Immortal and then it's only one stun every so often instead of stun after stun, but that's pretty much only viable if you aren't ranged (and therefore squishy as hell) and/or the enemy is leaving you alone.

 

[Rhaknar]

please dont afk. just lose with dignity

just venting im sure noone here actually afks

Alur, im loving Sylvanas, wtf happened? its Valla all over again

 

[Yoshichan]

just venting im sure noone here actually afks

lol

 

[Alur]

just venting im sure noone here actually afks

I think we'd be surprised what GAFer's do in games if we knew all of us who played and could observe, lol, but that's just me. I've seen some shit in gameplay with GAF folk in my ten years here.

Alur, im loving Sylvanas, wtf happened? its Valla all over again

You and Milly79 have the same kind of built in skepticism I think. He's sworn off a couple and turned out he liked em too once he finally gave em a real go.

 

[Valus]

It's a little late for this, but I just discovered a Sgt. Hammer spec that is super fun:

You take 1) Ambush, 4) Focused Attack, 7) First Aid, 10) Napalm Strike, 13) Giant Killer, 16) Hover Siege Mode and 20) Fury of the Storm

The whole point of this build is to hit as hard as possible from stealth. My first auto attack was hitting for about 750, and a napalm strike usually landed right on top of it. Suuuper fun and trolly.

As long as they don't take block at level 1, this would be a fun build, yeah.

 

[Alur]

As long as they don't take block at level 1, this would be a fun build, yeah.

Or anyone taking Imposing Presence.

That's pretty much why she is considered so low now. Easily countered (Block, Imposing, Muradin in general, Kael'thas in every game) and the health nerf didn't help.

 

[ScottSullivan]

Reghar is my new favorite, don't know why it took so long for me to try him. Having a mount that regens your HP and gives you speed that you can't be hit out of is a blast, and healing a warrior to full with the ult in the middle of a team fight is super satisfying

 

[Alur]

Dis wait doe. I don't think we've seen one launched after 12 PST/3 PM EST yet unless maintenance was extended on a patch, so if it's not in the next three minutes...?

All indications are today, but it's coming late for sure.

EDIT: Also confirmed Leoric will launch in US and EU simultaneously...we just don't have a time yet.

 

[zoukka]

lol

AFK:ers are the lowest of gamer scum. Shame on you.

 

[Yoshichan]

AFK:ers are the lowest of gamer scum. Shame on you.

SHAME

DING DING DING

SHAME

 

[Rhaknar]

Dis wait doe. I don't think we've seen one launched after 12 PST/3 PM EST yet unless maintenance was extended on a patch, so if it's not in the next three minutes...?

All indications are today, but it's coming late for sure.

EDIT: Also confirmed Leoric will launch in US and EU simultaneously...we just don't have a time yet.

US and EU at the same time is a first right? I mean, its as it SHOULD be, but still.

baby steps

 

[Alur]

It's only because of no patch I guess.

Spoiler

You're still second class online gamer citizens to me to Blizzard.

 

[Rhaknar]

It's only because of no patch I guess.

Spoiler

You're still second class online gamer citizens to me to Blizzard.

shut yo mouth, I dont need your truth bombs

went 5-2 today, im ok with that (4-2 with Sylv and also a win in hero league with, who else, Li Li)

 

[Yoshichan]

Level 9 Arthas, don't want to ever stop playing this hero. Hope Sindragosa gets changed sot hat she shows up much faster though

 

[Cerato]

Or anyone taking Imposing Presence.

That's pretty much why she is considered so low now. Easily countered (Block, Imposing, Muradin in general, Kael'thas in every game) and the health nerf didn't help.

Yeah, this is just a QM troll spec. But even if someone takes Imposing, this spec is all about the FIRST shot. You're just looking to hit a target as hard as possible, all at once, from roving stealth.

Also, the effect of immediately losing half or more of your life out of nowhere really shakes people up. It's a blast.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Is leoric out yet

I heard 230 PST west coast

I want him nowoooww

 

[Yoshichan]

Is leoric out yet

I heard 230 PST west coast

I want him nowoooww

not yet...

 

[Maximus.]

I remember before this game officially came out, there were rumors that Blizzard were going to severely reduce the team working on this game (due to a lack of confidence in its performance or something, it's been a while since I read about it). I hope there is no merit to this rumor, since this game is so fun and Blizzard just knows how to make fun ass games.

 

[Eric WK]

I remember before this game officially came out, there were rumors that Blizzard were going to severely reduce the team working on this game (due to a lack of confidence in its performance or something, it's been a while since I read about it). I hope there is no merit to this rumor, since this game is so fun and Blizzard just knows how to make fun ass games.

Most recently, around launch or E3, it was mentioned that they've actually increased staff for the game. Unless the population falls off, I think it's going to be supported well for the foreseeable future.

 

[Rhaknar]

has the Leoric release trailer been posted?

its not the best :/

 

[jaundicejuice]

I laughed. That line up of trusted allies, that look from Illidan.

 

[Werd]

Hoping for another price reduction this week. Would we know by now?

I think I'm going to have to buy Uther or Rehgar anyway though... my supports are Brightwing, Li Li and Malf. Brightwing is a bit nerfed and while Li Li seems more popular I still don't like playing her.

 

[Rhaknar]

Hoping for another price reduction this week. Would we know by now?

I think I'm going to have to buy Uther or Rehgar anyway though... my supports are Brightwing, Li Li and Malf. Brightwing is a bit nerfed and while Li Li seems more popular I still don't like playing her.

price reductions are still the one thing nobody can predict. theres no rhyme or reason to them, they just...ocasionally happen. And it doesnt happen a lot mind you, I dont know why people are getting this idea that it happens a lot. It doesnt

 

[BreezyLimbo]

has the Leoric release trailer been posted?

its not the best :/

Hahaha holy shit that look from Illidan on Leorics 'Never betray me!' line.

 

[Savitar]

That Illidan look was good indeed.

Yes...you can trust the guy called the betrayer.

 

[ZealousD]

Killing another player with Abathur when your hat is on a minion is the most amazing feeling.

When that player is a Zeratul that was in stealth that got hit by a spike burst it is even better.

 

[Alavard]

has the Leoric release trailer been posted?

its not the best :/

I like his dialogue.

 

[Rhaknar]

what a strange hero league haunted mines game. dominated all team fights, 50 kills vs 30 overall and lost >_>

oh well

 

[Sothis Krieg]

Level 9 Arthas, don't want to ever stop playing this hero. Hope Sindragosa gets changed sot hat she shows up much faster though

Wich build do you use ?

 

[Yoshichan]

Wich build do you use ?

Block

Destruction

Rune Tap

Sindragosa/Army of the Dead

Biting Cold

Frostmourne Feeds

Hardened Shield

 

[Milly79]

loool

 

[Alur]

loool

2 creepy.