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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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BreezyLimbo
Banned
guys is leoric out
I can't
I can't
By taking block instead of eternal hunger, you miss out on the synergy of having frostmourne hungers feed your frozen tempest. I can't imagine passing that up. Do you just feel too squishy?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
illidan with abathur is still the most broken piece of shit in this already imbalanced piece of shit game
how blizzard still haven't fixed this retarded character is beyond me and whoever is in charge with the balancing should be fired and should get hired by a shit company with terrible insurance like EA
how blizzard still haven't fixed this retarded character is beyond me and whoever is in charge with the balancing should be fired and should get hired by a shit company with terrible insurance like EA
You just have to CC Illidan. He no longer has the immunity on his Q/W he did previously, so you can just stop him in his tracks and focus him down.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
both are stupid as fuck, but illidan is the one asshole that needs to be changed (along with a few other heroes, actually). Game is still in beta and whoever says anything else is in complete denial and/or is in Blizzard fanboy-hype
huehuehue
Illidan isn't even Abathur's best target anymore and wasn't even the few weeks leading up before he got nerfed. He's also far from broken now. He's actually even more of a gamble and detriment than he was before in most scenarios.
I lub dis doe. Such anger. I bet you are a joy in person after a gaming session or someone messes up your order at the McDonalds.
I just caught this. Really? Forget that tongue in cheek stuff I said earlier. This is infantile. As a father of a child who someone like you would classify as "retarded" I don't even know what to say. Grow up. You really need to evaluate your anger over meaningless shit in a video game.
at least when I bitch about Nova I bitch because I hate the mechanic of stealth, not because I think im a better developer or that she is OP
I guess its that time of the month for Yoshi again, the "im done with this shit blizzard game" time
I guess its that time of the month for Yoshi again, the "im done with this shit blizzard game" time
I'm waiting with such bated breath for Leoric to slam down 15k gold that I remembered about this thread. Sorry guys for not posting/reading/playing together much.
At this rate I'm going to take a nap and Leoric is going to release 10 minutes after I fall asleep.
Also:
This.
At this rate I'm going to take a nap and Leoric is going to release 10 minutes after I fall asleep.
Also:
This.
Orochinagis
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Locust abathur can still push hard but his locust are just made of paper and basically useles when they reach the core or easily dispached by enemies heroes, Azmodan is way better in lane carry and basically do Abathur late game push with his trait ability in level 1.
Abathur's shields are lame, cant protect you for constant damage and some of its bonus are for mercs and cant repair buildings, go choose tassadar instead.
Abathur mines needs a damage buff or new skills,since the mines are designed to damage minions, the mines are not capable of killing or pressing enemies heroes to run away unless you plant tons of them on the same place, made them permanent and probably add buffs to heroes/minions near to them but only 5 at the same time.
Maybe its asking to much , he is like a attack speed bot now for melee assassins
Rhaknar's Heroes Tier (fuck quality its all about the fun baby)
God tier
Li Li
Favorites
Gazlowe
Stiches
Valla
Azmodan
Johanna
Kerrigan
Zagara
Rehgar
Hammer
Lost Vikings
Almost There
Sylvanas
Tychus
Abathur
Uther
Anub
Jaina
Reynor
ETC
Illidan
Murky
Zeebo
Tassadar
Tyrael
Arthas
Meh
Falstad
Tyrande
Malfurian
Thrall
Kael'thas
Chen
Brightwing
Diablo
Muradin
Sonya
Thrall
Fuck them
Nova
Zeratul
I havent tried Butcher (or Leoric obviously) yet. Sylvanas will join the favorites for sure with a few more games. Most of the characters on that tier in fact could be favorites, I just havent played them in ages so im not sure. I need to work on my Meh tier the most, as its mostly guys I got to 5 and never touched again because they did nothing for me.
I will never play Nova and Zera, or any other stealth heroes they introduce. Just not my jam.
God tier
Li Li
Favorites
Gazlowe
Stiches
Valla
Azmodan
Johanna
Kerrigan
Zagara
Rehgar
Hammer
Lost Vikings
Almost There
Sylvanas
Tychus
Abathur
Uther
Anub
Jaina
Reynor
ETC
Illidan
Murky
Zeebo
Tassadar
Tyrael
Arthas
Meh
Falstad
Tyrande
Malfurian
Thrall
Kael'thas
Chen
Brightwing
Diablo
Muradin
Sonya
Thrall
Fuck them
Nova
Zeratul
I havent tried Butcher (or Leoric obviously) yet. Sylvanas will join the favorites for sure with a few more games. Most of the characters on that tier in fact could be favorites, I just havent played them in ages so im not sure. I need to work on my Meh tier the most, as its mostly guys I got to 5 and never touched again because they did nothing for me.
I will never play Nova and Zera, or any other stealth heroes they introduce. Just not my jam.
If you want a hard-hitting self-sustaining melee assassin, Butcher or Sonya are where its at.
I wish they went ahead and changed Sonya's class from warrior to assassin already. And Tassadar from support to Specialist :/
TurboLibre
Member
at least when I bitch about Nova I bitch because I hate the mechanic of stealth, not because I think im a better developer or that she is OP
I guess its that time of the month for Yoshi again, the "im done with this shit blizzard game" time
What annoys me about Nova and Zera is you can't hit them with normal attacks if they're stealthed. I remember I was claiming one of the dragon shrines as Lili, but the enemy nova sat there preventing me from claiming it. I had no way to attack her since the winds aren't active against stealth characters and the dragons auto attack. I sat and waited for a team member to help me out, but her team beat them to it.
So lame. If I see the shimmer and click on it, I should be able to attack them.
Lili is literally the *only* character in the game who has no ability to break someone out of stealth. It's part of her thing - she's ridiculously easy to play, but not suitable for higher end play because she cannot target anything and can't break people out of stealth.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
aw yisss
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I really like his default skin, and his master skin has that sweet helmet.
jaundicejuice
Member
So many heroes have active abilities--from true sight talents to simple AoE damage--to reveal invisible heroes. If you could right click on them to reveal, the whole stealth mechanic would be broken and useless.
At least in HotS you can see an invis hero because of their predator shimmer, in Dota invisible heroes are straight up fucking invisible. If you aren't near a tower, have a gem (expensive), a level 3 Necronomicon (even more expensive) or have sentry wards somewhere in lane or your jungle, you can't see anything until you're already being ganked and you're dead.
Riki and Bounty Hunter would cause Yoshi to have an embolism.
At least in HotS you can see an invis hero because of their predator shimmer, in Dota invisible heroes are straight up fucking invisible. If you aren't near a tower, have a gem (expensive), a level 3 Necronomicon (even more expensive) or have sentry wards somewhere in lane or your jungle, you can't see anything until you're already being ganked and you're dead.
Riki and Bounty Hunter would cause Yoshi to have an embolism.
Prospects look poor for competitive play, although he might be good on maps where you can abuse that trait in the early game.
jaundicejuice
Member
Leoric's attack speed is :/
Orochinagis
Member
Abathur on the rescue!!! *cries on an spawning evolution pool*
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Leoric is pretty damn sustainable. His Q does tons of damage as well. He's great.
jaundicejuice
Member
Okay so while it's probably widely agreed the further away Blizzard moves their talent design away from generic talents the better, I kinda, sorta miss having superiority with basically every warrior.
Leoirc can't neutral for shit.
Leoirc can't neutral for shit.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Leoric don't need neutrals
Leoric has pretty good damage, but has the slowest attack speed. His Q (Skeletal Swing) is made for wave clear, his W (Drawin Hope) would be so awesome if he didn't pose to cast it, and his E (Royal March) let's him jump into a fight from a flank with zero worry of being CC'd before he drops a tomb.
He's probably best when built around his Q, but most of my tests are going be around his W and E. His cooldowns feel pretty long all around, but all of the talents he has to get around those cooldowns look extremely powerful.
Biggest issue I see is that his Q is his only way to slow in the early game when he's not dead, meaning he's not strong enough to 2-man gank unless it's with someone with like Muradin or Johanna. Unless he comes out as a pretty strong damage off-tank (and he does do decent damage at the very least, along with that triple swing ult), it's likely he's going to be preferably used as a solo-tank. He can at least 3-man gank extremely well, with W taking off a quarter of the enemy's life.
He has some decently strong early game sustain talents, but most of them don't scale all that well into the late game. Still, I'll probably try solo laning him for a while instead of ganking with him unless the team I get just happens to work that well together.
Also, does anyone remember if he can soak lanes while dead? I'm assuming no.
He's probably best when built around his Q, but most of my tests are going be around his W and E. His cooldowns feel pretty long all around, but all of the talents he has to get around those cooldowns look extremely powerful.
Biggest issue I see is that his Q is his only way to slow in the early game when he's not dead, meaning he's not strong enough to 2-man gank unless it's with someone with like Muradin or Johanna. Unless he comes out as a pretty strong damage off-tank (and he does do decent damage at the very least, along with that triple swing ult), it's likely he's going to be preferably used as a solo-tank. He can at least 3-man gank extremely well, with W taking off a quarter of the enemy's life.
He has some decently strong early game sustain talents, but most of them don't scale all that well into the late game. Still, I'll probably try solo laning him for a while instead of ganking with him unless the team I get just happens to work that well together.
Also, does anyone remember if he can soak lanes while dead? I'm assuming no.
Orochinagis
Member
Leoric players trying to be illidan and stuff
jaundicejuice
Member
Leoric seems a lot like ETC 2.0. Less of a generic tank, like most warriors used to be, and more of an initiator a teamfighter. He's more useful for laning and teamfights.
Leoric is a lot like The Butcher. He can sponge some damage because he can get some ridiculous sustain in lane with Drain Hope and then at 4 with Fealty Unto Death (dying minions heal) but if you move his Drain Hope target away from him and there's no creep, he's got no sustain. Wraith Walk is an awesome initiation and escape tool. Not literally just escaping, you can get out of CC with it.
Undying seems like it will be as much fun and trouble as Butcher's charge. Waaaaaaay more trouble than fun, early I think. It is useful though.
Leoric is a lot like The Butcher. He can sponge some damage because he can get some ridiculous sustain in lane with Drain Hope and then at 4 with Fealty Unto Death (dying minions heal) but if you move his Drain Hope target away from him and there's no creep, he's got no sustain. Wraith Walk is an awesome initiation and escape tool. Not literally just escaping, you can get out of CC with it.
Undying seems like it will be as much fun and trouble as Butcher's charge. Waaaaaaay more trouble than fun, early I think. It is useful though.
Aquavelvaman
Banned
He seems fun but a little squishy. I also feel like he could be kited to infinity by pretty much any hero. I'll wait a couple days before I decided to buy or not.
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