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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK

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Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
this hotslog upload is taking forever

edit: it says my Stiches is lvl 9 when its actually lvl 10, so...whut? also if the numbers are right, im surprised my Li Li is under 50% tbh
 

Maledict

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this hotslog upload is taking forever

edit: it says my Stiches is lvl 9 when its actually lvl 10, so...whut? also if the numbers are right, im surprised my Li Li is under 50% tbh

If the last match you played is the one that got stitches to 10, he was how as 9 on hotslogs till you play a match with him at 10.

(Remember that hotslogs match history shows the level of the hero when you played that match, not the current level of the hero).
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
If the last match you played is the one that got stitches to 10, he was how as 9 on hotslogs till you play a match with him at 10.

(Remember that hotslogs match history shows the level of the hero when you played that match, not the current level of the hero).

I see, thank you sir, will play a game with Stiches then and ruin my 4 win streak with Butcher :(

btw I fucking love Butcher, and his Master is amazing...sooo... new plan?
 

zoukka

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So they accidentally broke the game, Leoric with abathur just sits in your base, dies, respawns and kills all your keeps. Need a hotfix asap.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
So they accidentally broke the game, Leoric with abathur just sits in your base, dies, respawns and kills all your keeps. Need a hotfix asap.

maybe thats what a Leoric was trying to do earlier but I guess the abathur didnt know about it, or the game was such a blowout and they didnt try, there was a Leoric in our base all the time
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
I don't think it works without abathur.

im almost sure that game they had a abathur, like I said, maybe he didnt know or if he did they werent trying because the game was such a blowout? I dunno but I deffo had a enemy Leoric in my base the whole game and we had no idea what was going on besids going to him and killing him everytime

edit: hah actually won my stiches game :D

edit: yeeeeeeeeeeah Tassadar vs Rehgar in QM. just make Tass a fucking scecialist already. 5 win streak is over ;_;
 
Did this game have a drastic population drop? It takes much longer to find games and the opposition feels far more difficult.

Also this game is IMPOSSIBLE with a group of 3.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
yeah Im kinda into Butcher guys :D

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Maledict

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Did this game have a drastic population drop? It takes much longer to find games and the opposition feels far more difficult.

Also this game is IMPOSSIBLE with a group of 3.

Matchmaker has been changed to take into account your number of games as well, so it takes longer to find you a match but you should get a more equal level of play.
 

Rizzi

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I really don't like Blackheart's Bay. It'd be nice if I could get on a team that ever figured out that you need to collect coins some time.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Butcher is my fave assassin I think. sorry Valla, I have a new waifu now :(
 

kirblar

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I really don't like Blackheart's Bay. It'd be nice if I could get on a team that ever figured out that you need to collect coins some time.
IT, Garden, and Mines are likely the first 3 to be rotated out. Dragon Shire #4. (I love it, but holy crap do a lot of people not get it.)
 

Ketch

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So they accidentally broke the game, Leoric with abathur just sits in your base, dies, respawns and kills all your keeps. Need a hotfix asap.

I haven't seen this in action but I don't understand, How does the other team lose 5v3?

Two people afk for the first ten minutes. Yup.
This game really needs a surrender option.

If two people are AFK for 10 minutes then the game is probably pretty close to being over anyway right?
 

Rizzi

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Also lovely when the entire team refuses to say anything, and does nothing but feeds.
Christ, a little communication in the team based game would be nice.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
what a strange match. hour Hammer was completely not willing to do anything we said, just went off on her own the whole game even tho we were being polite to a certain point. it was basicaly a 4v5 the whole game, in the end we lost with 1% on their core (we raced cores and they had a boss)

I dont understand the point of what he was doing since its a team game. its not even a "playing badly" thing, its just...he was in his own little world
 

Maledict

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what a strange match. hour Hammer was completely not willing to do anything we said, just went off on her own the whole game even tho we were being polite to a certain point. it was basicaly a 4v5 the whole game, in the end we lost with 1% on their core (we raced cores and they had a boss)

I dont understand the point of what he was doing since its a team game. its not even a "playing badly" thing, its just...he was in his own little world

It's because Hammer can solo towers and forts in siege mode. It brings out a type of player who thinks that because they can do that, they have to do that - and that's the only thing they do.

It's like people who play Nova. They want to roam the map getting sweet leet gank kills from the number 1 player hero killer, and don't understand that unless she's REALLY doing work you'll lose from all the lost team fights.
 

Complistic

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that feel when your team gets first pick and your teammate picks Arthas.

I'm starting to get good with jaina, like I'm consistently topping my charts, but I just can't seem to win with her.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
even the games im losing with Butcher feel close and I feel its not my fault we lost. Really into him right now. The trek to lvl 10 is a slodge tho :(

edit: this tassadar vs a actual healer shit is ridiculous and NEEDS fixing. just make him a specialist ffs. I actually prefer not to get a support if its tass in QM now because of the new matchmaking of support vs support. I know I know, QM doesnt matter
 

Rizzi

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Five loses in a row, yay.
Sure would be nice if people could play the god damned objective instead of running around trying to 1v4 all match.
Yep.
Shame that'll never happen because apparently I get to play with god damned retards past midnight.
 
just picked up the starter pack last weeek and im finally getting the hang of this. just bought valla, pretty good. also i noticed i get like 20 or 30 gold for matches, and the characters are like 7K. Is this one of those games where you basicly have to buy the heroes or lose a month of straight grinding just to unlock 1 hero?
 

Milly79

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Five loses in a row, yay.
Sure would be nice if people could play the god damned objective instead of running around trying to 1v4 all match.
Yep.
Shame that'll never happen because apparently I get to play with god damned retards past midnight.

Oh yay. R word usage.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
man you really cant get happy with a nice win streak before getting hit with a nasty losing one can you? :(
 

aka_bueno

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just picked up the starter pack last weeek and im finally getting the hang of this. just bought valla, pretty good. also i noticed i get like 20 or 30 gold for matches, and the characters are like 7K. Is this one of those games where you basicly have to buy the heroes or lose a month of straight grinding just to unlock 1 hero?

I'm sure once you hit level player level 40, it might feel like more of a grind but 1-40 you get a lot of gold. Between the player levels, hero levels, daily quests, treasure goblin, and playing games..you should be earning a good amount! More than enough to buy a few heroes in no time.

I bought Thrall @10k and Leoric @15k and currently have 12k saved up. Could have bought a lot more of the 2, 4 or 7k heroes but I had the starter pack plus the early access bundle so I already had a small mix of the cheaper heroes.
 

Rizzi

Member
I'm sure once you hit level player level 40, it might feel like more of a grind but 1-40 you get a lot of gold. Between the player levels, hero levels, daily quests, treasure goblin, and playing games..you should be earning a good amount! More than enough to buy a few heroes in no time.

I bought Thrall @10k and Leoric @15k and currently have 12k saved up. Could have bought a lot more of the 2, 4 or 7k heroes but I had the starter pack plus the early access bundle so I already had a small mix of the cheaper heroes.

It's still not great though.
 

aka_bueno

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It's still not great though.

If I'm being honest, I think it's fine. I haven't had any issues feeling restricted, especially when starting out.

$5 starter pack gets you 3 heroes. Then the 7 different free heroes a week. That right there gave me a ton of play time and gold leveling each one to 5 (for the gold bonus) while also letting me test and learn each hero a bit.

By like the first week, doing that and playing normally and increasing my player level and daily quests I had more than enough gold for a couple of cheaper heroes or one of the expensive ones. Hell I think I had enough for a cheap hero that first day since the first few player levels give you gold every other couple levels.

For being a F2P game, I think the model is pretty great. How this compares to LoL or DotA2 I don't know though since I don't play those, but I'm just speaking for myself when I say that I haven't had an issue at all with feeling like I'm restricted with HotS' model.
 

zoukka

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I haven't seen this in action but I don't understand, How does the other team lose 5v3?

Leoric kills the keeps quite fast and abathur isn't tied to him while he is dead. You want one hero killing leoric all the time because he doesn't really die to the keep alone fast enough. You get a few levels from killing him and they get three keeps very early on. Not saying the strat is op or anything but blizz will surely fix it just because it's such a non-interactive strat.
 

Rizzi

Member
If I'm being honest, I think it's fine. I haven't had any issues feeling restricted, especially when starting out.

$5 starter pack gets you 3 heroes. Then the 7 different free heroes a week. That right there gave me a ton of play time and gold leveling each one to 5 (for the gold bonus) while also letting me test and learn each hero a bit.

By like the first week, doing that and playing normally and increasing my player level and daily quests I had more than enough gold for a couple of cheaper heroes or one of the expensive ones. Hell I think I had enough for a cheap hero that first day since the first few player levels give you gold every other couple levels.

For being a F2P game, I think the model is pretty great. How this compares to LoL or DotA2 I don't know though since I don't play those, but I'm just speaking for myself when I say that I haven't had an issue at all with feeling like I'm restricted with HotS' model.

LoL is slightly better, and all Dota 2 characters are free.
Smite has an option to pay $30 US and you get every god current and future.
I do like that HotS lets you try any hero before you buy it though.

I've got 7k gold, and no idea who to buy next lol.
 

kirblar

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LoL is slightly better, and all Dota 2 characters are free.
Smite has an option to pay $30 US and you get every god current and future.
I do like that HotS lets you try any hero before you buy it though.

I've got 7k gold, and no idea who to buy next lol.
Who you got missing right now?
 
I've got 7k gold, and no idea who to buy next lol.

You want at least two of every type of hero (warrior, support, etc), so you will always have someone who you can use for the Daily Quests + level up their hero level at the same time. Daily Quests are your key source of gold (+ the 500 gold bonus you get for leveling a character to lv5, but that gold peters out after a while), far more than the piddling gold you earn by doing matches.

But definitely "try before you buy" either through the free rotation or by using the "try" feature. Some characters I was *sure* was going to love I ended up just liking OK, and some characters I was pretty sure weren't going to be my thing I ended up loving.
 

Llyranor

Member
Zagara is great. Good lane pusher, and deals a good damage to heroes. Also the tumors are great for sustain and situational awareness
 

Ketch

Member
Leoric kills the keeps quite fast and abathur isn't tied to him while he is dead. You want one hero killing leoric all the time because he doesn't really die to the keep alone fast enough. You get a few levels from killing him and they get three keeps very early on. Not saying the strat is op or anything but blizz will surely fix it just because it's such a non-interactive strat.

What's his respawn timer like by lvl 16? 20-30seconds? Surely he can't take a keep faster then the entire other team. It makes sense if the non leoric team is trying to split up and deal it in two different locations. But if an abathur team isn't even sticking together as 4 then punish them hard, own the map, win the game.
 

Alur

Member
Maybe I'll buy Zagara. She seems kind of interesting.

Played a ton of Zagara lately with our group just prior to moving with great success (no HOTS for me til at least Thursday looks like). She's in a good spot.

She's very fun. As Breezy said, the creep laying is like its own meta game and it provides you such an advantage in movement speed and vision (not counting the health regen most people take).

She has great damage from level one and while she doesn't scale that great, she's still decently strong late too. The way her damage works makes her a pretty good anti-tank hero for getting them out of the front line early with her hydralisks et al. Would recommend.

the real answer is murky, though. Once you Marky (nazeepo plz) the world is yours.
 
MSI MGA Americas Open Qualifier is today: stream is here.

For the McIntyre club on here, he's playing with Vortex again today, and they will likely meet Zeveron in the RO16

coL, COG, TS and C9M are pre-invited to the main event tomorrow which also will feature the top 4 from today's qualifier.

edit: Vortex playing now on the german stream

from the looks of it, it appears Bobby and Tazza have role switched which could explain Vortex's additional struggles. Bobby is playing tanks today and Tazza is playing specialist
 

Savitar

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Zagara is massive fun.

Plus her best attack does great AOE splash damage. People run from it. You can take down towers and gates with it and wipe out minions pretty good too if you upgrade it.

Plus trapping the enemy and having your team wait for them to pop for slaughter is always a blast.
 
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