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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK

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aka_bueno

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Where is this link to add names, I didn't see it last time?

I'm in US and down to play with you guys: akabueno#1840

Edit: nvm I see it now lol
 

Milly79

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dem heals doe



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Have I mentioned I love Leoric?

Just had a teamfight where I was killed, and the enemy team was pushing as 5, but my timer was almost refreshed so I got in the way of their escape route, and the enemy team is STILL THERE with half health, so I spawn and just ult my way while my team closes in the vice.

So damn good.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
I had one of my bet QMs in ages earlier. Me and a friend, he was using Leoric, there was a really good Nova always on point with orbital strikes each time my friend emtombed someone. They got a lot of double kills like that. There was also a master skin Tychus that destroyed the dmg.
 

Ketch

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Have I mentioned I love Leoric?

Just had a teamfight where I was killed, and the enemy team was pushing as 5, but my timer was almost refreshed so I got in the way of their escape route, and the enemy team is STILL THERE with half health, so I spawn and just ult my way while my team closes in the vice.

So damn good.

I really like him too, what's build are you using?

I'm going reanimatation, hardened bones, first aid, march, remove slow on W, double Q, and march upgrade.

mix in block, spell shield, imposing as needed.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
Playing on spider queen, as abathur. Our anubarak is fighting a sonya down at the bottom and he's critically low, just about to lose, but so is the Sonya. But it's clear that sonya will probably win.

I immediately hat him, give him a shield, save him, and kill the sonya all within a fraction of a second.

Me: "I think you owe me a beer after that one"
Anub: "How about a pack?"

This is how you get free beer, guys. Play Abathur.
 
I really like him too, what's build are you using?

I'm going reanimatation, hardened bones, first aid, march, remove slow on W, double Q, and march upgrade.

mix in block, spell shield, imposing as needed.

My build is-
Hopelessness
Hardened Bones
Ghastly Reach(Or Ossein Renewal if I feel it's going to be one of those matches)
March of the Black King
Crushing Hope
Consume Vitality
Death March

It's more of a DPS build, and he becomes a tank killer with Crushing Hope.
 

Saprol

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Started QMs. Both matches had an ally Nazeebo tank creeps/towers to give up first blood. Nobody respects level 1 fist of justice, they just stand there and eat more stuns.

I'm gonna be super sad when people know to walk away.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Was anyone around during the artefact period (however short it was)?
 

Alur

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Was anyone around during the artefact period (however short it was)?

Couple of us and it was only about a week. Some crazy stuff was going on during it (badass Diablo for one) and the repercussions due to talents removed to make room for artifacts lingered on for a while afterward as heroes were different or had holes in their kits they didn't have pre artifacts.

I've never seen community sentiment be so unanimous and loud and enact change so quickly.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Man watching an oldie (pallytime first heroes video) and the maps were different? The mines map looks bigger with different merc camps and the mines themselves are HUGE. Also dat alpha UI lol
 

Alur

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Man watching an oldie (pallytime first heroes video) and the maps were different? The mines map looks bigger with different merc camps and the mines themselves are HUGE. Also dat alpha UI lol

Yeah more mercs were on mines. The ideal strat at that time was to allow the enemy to clear all the first mines while your team took all merc camps and you'd come out ahead due to the strength of Knights (now known as bruisers) at that time. They used to be amazing.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Wow the big fat merc guys died in awesomely gory fashion, why change that? :(

Stupid PG rating
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Second life bar on Tychus ult was so stupid :)

Edit: Tassadar's ground AoE looked much better in Alpha, it was a bubble :(
 

Ketch

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My build is-
Hopelessness
Hardened Bones
Ghastly Reach(Or Ossein Renewal if I feel it's going to be one of those matches)
March of the Black King
Crushing Hope
Consume Vitality
Death March

It's more of a DPS build, and he becomes a tank killer with Crushing Hope.

I use similar build on short maps like mines, spider queen, and battlefield except instead of consume vitality I go with double Q.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Wtf Illidan didn't have any of his flip flop stuff in Alpha, just some basic looking melee attacks :eek:
 

zoukka

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I usually go:

Reanimation
Hardened bones
Reach for Q
Ult depends on the comps
Burning Rage/spell shield
Double swing (his best talent by far, you basically hit their whole team most of the time... twice)
Hardened shield
 

Alur

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Second life bar on Tychus ult was so stupid :)

Edit: Tassadar's ground AoE looked much better in Alpha, it was a bubble :(

Stupid fun more like. RIP Tychus. He's never been the same since.

Tassadar had Time Warp at that point. SC fans complained, wanted psi storm, here we are. Was more or less the same thing but it also slowed and was on 12 sec CD (8 now).

Wtf Illidan didn't have any of his flip flop stuff in Alpha, just some basic looking melee attacks :eek:

Yeah he was the hero with baked in silence. Basically he marked a target with one basic ability and then if he used Crescent Sweep on the marked target they were silenced...and that was also a basic ability. He still had the cool down reduction on basic attacks he has now so it was pretty potent. Would still be strong as shit right now with this burst Mage meta but RIP.
 

zoukka

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How do I get good at Tychus?

You basically just rely on your q and w to engage and e away if anyone approaches. Pop odin far away from enemy team when you know a teamfight is about to happen never use it in the middle of enemies. Basic attack only if you know you get a kill.
 

Proven

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Saw this on Reddit as an applicable strategy for Hero League: https://youtu.be/cz7TWpRXyRY?t=101

I've been crafting an autoattack Rapid Fire Tychus build over the last month. I love it, the only thing is that it's really bad in this meta. It's strengths are forcing the enemy frontline back in a heavy poke comp, waiting for a chance to stun and then burst in with the usual Q and E to finish. Q for squishes and tanks that are close to death, autoattack every other time to out duel any hero out there. However, against Kael, Tychus can't safely do anything. Then there's Johanna and the many other sources of hard CC prevalent in the game. Tychus has Relentless, which I'll take over Problem Solver/Giant Killer even though it's a pretty big power boost to the build. But as it currently stands, Relentless is almost useless with the amount of stun I run into in this meta. I'm wondering if the build would do better in a double warrior comp itself to provide heavy peel and enough CC to power up Executioner. Can't really tell though when most of my friends appear allergic to tanks.

Tychus is still pretty good against double Warrior comps, but I'm going to have to shelve him soon for my mental health. I'm noticing I'm playing more on tilt these days when I'm on him. Whenever I eventually touch Hero League I'll probably save him for comps with Leoric and such, while stay away from Johanna and Uther (Benediction...). Surprisingly, I'm about even against Muradin. Maybe I have too much practice dodging Stormbolt.

I have a hard on for sustained damage and sustained healing, so I really don't want to play Kael, Jaina, Uther, or Rehgar. Unless Monk shakes the meta with a cleanse on one of his basic abilities, my next 10k gold is likely to go to Johana just so I can pretend to be competitive.
 

Kioshen

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Was anyone around during the artefact period (however short it was)?

I was playing heavily before that period. When they implemented the change, I raged quit the game until recently. I could go on and on about why but it's way in the past now. I did give it an honest try but when you could just stand there getting pummelled by a whole team and heal faster than they can dish out damage ... it was not pretty when you faced a team with full masteries. The amount of ridiculous builds was staggering.
 

brian!

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I think the lore of illidan is that he has no friends

Soldier mentions ab/leoric in his leoric guide no linky cuz on phone tho
 
Finally starting to win on Battlefield. I think it's boiled down to me needing a couple weeks to get used to the layout in the center and when on defense fighting people directly on top of your immortal for free stun/push.

Also for Abby, I think I'd just been trying to do too much. Maintain whichever lane is deeper, Monstrosity on whichever lane is shallower, stay out of trouble and keep hat on whoever's best at the time. Standard Abby logic I know, but he's a character you always feel you should be trying to do 15 things with when in reality he's far more effective doing only the 4 best of those possibilities.

It's decidedly more like Mines than I thought at first. I really thought it was a siege map in disguise but now I understand only lane maintenance is necessary, objective is always priority unless enemy core is exposed, camps between objectives are the bread and butter.
 

kirblar

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Yeah, the map is terrible for a siege strategy- once the initial fort is down you are super duper exposed if you try to push a lane because of how long they are.
 

Maledict

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My friend and I have been forcing Johanna / Azmodan on every map bar the two lane maps for the last week, and so far we have a 13-1 record with it. People really don't understand how to fight Azmodan late game, and the map presence his trait gives you is *insane* - I get at least one fort / keep a game from pushing in a lane at the opposite ends of the map.

That combined with the fact his health is ridiculously. He seems to do incredibly well against the Jaina / Kael combo because one dunk cripples them, whereas their combo doesn't take him down.
 

Palmer_v1

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My friend and I have been forcing Johanna / Azmodan on every map bar the two lane maps for the last week, and so far we have a 13-1 record with it. People really don't understand how to fight Azmodan late game, and the map presence his trait gives you is *insane* - I get at least one fort / keep a game from pushing in a lane at the opposite ends of the map.

That combined with the fact his health is ridiculously. He seems to do incredibly well against the Jaina / Kael combo because one dunk cripples them, whereas their combo doesn't take him down.

What Azmodan skills are you taking? I was thinking about buying him.
 
My friend and I have been forcing Johanna / Azmodan on every map bar the two lane maps for the last week, and so far we have a 13-1 record with it. People really don't understand how to fight Azmodan late game, and the map presence his trait gives you is *insane* - I get at least one fort / keep a game from pushing in a lane at the opposite ends of the map.

That combined with the fact his health is ridiculously. He seems to do incredibly well against the Jaina / Kael combo because one dunk cripples them, whereas their combo doesn't take him down.

Azmodan is my 2nd favorite hero behind only Abathur. He's really very fun. Not sure how he fairs in competitive team matches, but in solo queue, he's a blast. Never combo'd him with Johanna; what's the synergy there?
 

Maledict

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Taste for Blood - 2 extra damage for everything killed by globe
Bound Minion - your demonic General promotes the target
Infernal globe - faster globes
Black Pool - Empowers your dunks and laser
March of Sin - Lets you move with Laser, making it actually useable
Blood For Blood / Imposing PResence - depending on the enemy comp
Bolt / Fifth Circle - depending on the comp.

The thing is, unless you have a partner to play him with he isn't fun, and ideally that's Johanna. The *entire* build is about building up stacks of damage on his infernal Globe, so that by the end of the game an empowered globe is hitting people for 1200+ damage a globe. Whilst it's not as much damage as Kael can do over time, it's all upfront, its practically impossible to dodge as the target is so big and it only appears a second before impact, and Azmodan is SO ridiculously tanky its silly. He has the highest health in the game, and if you take Imposing Presence you laugh at Zeratul and laser his face.

If you don't have a partner to weaken the minions early on for you, I wouldn't recommend him - that's the main plus point to him now. He's an end game mage who counters Kael nicely because he can fire from even further away and he can live through Kaels' burst, whilst also bringing amazingly hidden map presence and control with his general.
 

Maledict

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Azmodan is my 2nd favorite hero behind only Abathur. He's really very fun. Not sure how he fairs in competitive team matches, but in solo queue, he's a blast. Never combo'd him with Johanna; what's the synergy there?

Johanna takes "Knight Takes Pawn" at rank 1, so her Condemn does a ton of damage to minions and pulls them all together. It means that with a shield glare, Condemn and punish you can start getting stacks on your Globe from the very first wave. We are by no means pro but I'm at 100+ extra damage well before level 10 usually, which means that I one shot waves with Black Pool straight out of the gate.
 

Ketch

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He's thirsty for Tyrande but got friendzoned.

And then his brother (who has stupid fucking antlers btw) stole her from him!

Assisting in the manifestation of the demon realm and betraying the sacred trust of the entire night elf race is totally justified in my honest opinion.
 

aka_bueno

Member
So after buying Leoric last week and Uther just now, I'm sitting at 7.7k gold left. Currently almost player level 39, and I have 3 quests and goblin so I should be able to get to 10k gold fairly easy...

Which is why I come to you now GAF, help me decide on an Assassin to purchase. Most of the ones I seem to be interested in are 10k gold, are any of the 7k and less Assassins worth it or just save up for a 10ker? I mainly play Warrior, but looking to pick up some DPS too.

Currently for Assassins I only own: Thrall, Valla and Raynor. Does Slyvanas fill in for DPS as a Specialist, she seemed like fun, but also 10k.
 
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