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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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MisterAnderson
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What team comp does he excel in? He's one of my favorites as well, but I never know when is the right time to select him in Hero League.
When you are trying to isolate someone and melt them w/ burst.
That's something he can do but not really a reason to pick him (you can just pick anub, who has more cc, for example)
He's a utility warrior if that makes sense, the biggest thing about him to me is his kit gives him a lot of play options
Imposing will is even more valuable now after imposing presence nerf too
He's a utility warrior if that makes sense, the biggest thing about him to me is his kit gives him a lot of play options
Imposing will is even more valuable now after imposing presence nerf too
If you take Kerrigan's ravage talents, she takes on a really dynamic play style. They keys are:
Clean Kill - If your ravage kills an enemy, its mana cost is refunded, its cooldown is immediately reset, and the next one hits harder.
Adaptation - Ravage can be used to jump to friendlies, for half the mana.
Eviscerate - Increases Ravage range by 40%.
So, you're going to do considerably less damage than most normal kerrigan builds. But you have the ability to jump people who are hurt and running away, and then you can either jump to a new enemy, or jump out on a friendly - right away. This is especially beneficial if you're on a map with Diablo, The Butcher, or stealthies.
The thing is, you really can't initiate with a ravage. You need to roll in and do your sweeping grasp combo, stay on the outside, and wait for someone to get hurt enough that you think you could kill em with a ravage. Overdrive helps, too.
I'm still working on this, but I like the style.
Clean Kill - If your ravage kills an enemy, its mana cost is refunded, its cooldown is immediately reset, and the next one hits harder.
Adaptation - Ravage can be used to jump to friendlies, for half the mana.
Eviscerate - Increases Ravage range by 40%.
So, you're going to do considerably less damage than most normal kerrigan builds. But you have the ability to jump people who are hurt and running away, and then you can either jump to a new enemy, or jump out on a friendly - right away. This is especially beneficial if you're on a map with Diablo, The Butcher, or stealthies.
The thing is, you really can't initiate with a ravage. You need to roll in and do your sweeping grasp combo, stay on the outside, and wait for someone to get hurt enough that you think you could kill em with a ravage. Overdrive helps, too.
I'm still working on this, but I like the style.
To me tyreal makes more sense in an aggressive line up, when you want to fight early, when your team has high mobility or when their team has low mobility.
You want to take advantage of His ability to shield and boost allies who are close to him while taking advantage of his great early game body blocking, aoe and lane control.
He's great when your team is picking the fights. He sucks when the other team is dictating the pace.
You want to take advantage of His ability to shield and boost allies who are close to him while taking advantage of his great early game body blocking, aoe and lane control.
He's great when your team is picking the fights. He sucks when the other team is dictating the pace.
Hopefully they just keep tuning up the #s on BW until shes seeing normal play again.91k healing in 21mins compared to bwing's 42k on the other side
Monk is fun
seven sided strike might see more play than I thought, especially as people get smart about NOT killing the stasis target. I saved myself with stasis but the other 2 times in the match I used enemies disengaged and it didnt heal. I mean its still fine, the teammate didnt die, but 7sided seems to be reallyh good aswell, against 1 or 2 people (more than that not so much)
If you can isolate one person with 7-sided it's going to take half their HP off. But in a group setting, it's garbage.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Ravage resets on kills by default. Ravage range and jumping to friendlies certainly seems more viable now that she's lost true sprint. Do you get the heal at lvl 1?
I'm flat out not good with these builds though. I don't find last kills predictable enough except against minions and mercs unless you're 1 v 1, but Kerrigan is certainly good for chasing and a Ravage build I imagine helps against the usual problem of chasing, which is the hunger to just follow someone for 10 seconds into an ambush. I'm glad you've got something working for you though. I like how most of her talents aren't junk.
Robottiimu2000
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Tyrael has become one of my favorite characters lately, I'm really liking his combo of mobility and durabilty.. For me he works best in two or three warrior comps.. The other tanks and tyrael initiates a stray squishy opponent, works like a charm..
But as lone tank the rest of the comp really need to be suited for him.
But as lone tank the rest of the comp really need to be suited for him.
I forgot about that skin. Me too. They should do something for sure. Barely any changes and just a few new tints basically.
I'm guessing it is because you have no established Hero League MMR. Average is the 20's, and you went above .500 so you are ahead of average. Like I said, chu8 was rank 1 and only got rank 5. His rank 1 MMR was way higher than mine, for example, so I'll be closer to you than him for sure I'd guess.
I'm assuming they don't want to place people straight in and then there be no climb to be had (because people would surely bitch about that too), hence them saying the initial placement would be "conservative".
One of the neat things about the ravage build for kerrigan is that it's mana free on a kill, it resets its CD, and it heals you for 10%, and all of that works on minions. So, between just two minions, you can heal 20% of your health for free.
Also, it looks to me like the CD on ravage resets if the enemy dies soon after you use ravage, but it doesn't actually have to be ravage that kills them.
Also, it looks to me like the CD on ravage resets if the enemy dies soon after you use ravage, but it doesn't actually have to be ravage that kills them.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Yeah it's a pretty generous window, probably a second and change.
I'll have to give the build another chance some time, see if I like the flow now and can manage to not suck
yeah there's a lot of leg room when heroes talks about last hits
jaundicejuice
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People are still picking gathering power on KT and Nova. Maybe, maybe it might be a worthwhile pick on KT with how he can melt creep waves and heroes standing in them with Fission and Chain Bomb but you can't die. It's just such a waste of a talent if you die like two or three times. You die at the wrong time once late-game, it's a waste. Plus you're betting on the game going long and passing on immediately useful level 4 talents. I don't get why people are still picking it.
BreezyLimbo
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Dunno why people pick it on Nova. It doesn't affect her AD, does it? She doesn't really have a skillset that screams "MORE DAMAGE FOR IT WOULD DO GOOD"
From what I've seen and played so far the only hero where gathering might be worth it is nazeebo. Only because you can get pretty tanky and have ice block and do most of shit from a safe distance aswell.
It fits pretty with the old school ravenous build.
How so?
It fits pretty with the old school ravenous build.
How so?
Remember, 24/25 is average.
jaundicejuice
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Hit 20 with Kael'thas with one of the worst Quick Matches I have ever experienced. Time to just start playing Hero League from here on out. Guess I'll play QM for Dailies but that's it.
gp gives ap
it's sort of useful for nova against murky/vikings but yeah it's not a good talent at all right now
like im definitely going nether wind every game even if murky or vikings are on the map
You can't take Ice Block and the 25% increased range, though, so there's not much reason to take Ice Block because the range is absolutely ridiculous. Landing Zombie Walls has never been easier. Plus you can just get Bolt at 20 now if you are worried about survivability since there's no more Sprint, even with the Bolt nerf.
I wouldn't ever take GP on anybody now. Definitely not Naz either. No matter which build you go, unless you have a perfect game with no deaths you'll get more value out of Spider Cluster long term.
Does anyone know if the new Starcraft hero that comes with Legacy of the Void preorders is for all LotV preorders or just the special physical and digital editions? Not like the game is dropping soon but I'm curious - the Blizzard website seems to imply he will be on your account if you get either.
I believe everyone gets the hero (just like all D3 RoS owners got Valla). It's the mount that is exclusive.
Yea I wouldn't recommend it either. My point was just that of all the heroes who still have GP nazeebo is the only one with some semblance of survivability because, like you said, it's completely useless if you die like more then once.
Maybe they will buff it to start out at 10, but still able go down to 0, losing half your stacks when you die
Thanks!
I played him on PTR only. Haven't been home since the patch. Will check it out this weekend.
He was really good before the patch. I just want to punish the no stun hero league comps I've been seeing with some greedy ravenous spirit build is all.
I kind of see now how people who play League clones can buy just one or a small handful of heroes and stick to only them. After playing 4 or 5 games with ETC I never want to play any other hero in HotS. He's like tanky Enigma. Just yolo into team fights and start a mosh pit. So gud!
Wafflecakes
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Hadn't played in a while, only to return to find Blizz ruined my favorite hero.
FU Blizz.
RIP Sonya
FU Blizz.
RIP Sonya
Robottiimu2000
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