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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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Wafflecakes
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I loved her because of the 50% reduced AI damage in her second tier, which let me ignore cannons and minions in the early game and take down bosses solo in the mid/late game.
She was my favorite pugging hero because I could do shit even if my team was a mess.
They merged the dmg from minion talent with mercenary lord. You now have 2 talents for the price of one.
Just don't yolo solo, and be one of *those* E.T.C players
I have only ever played with 2-3 other people with me in Mumble, so I've been able to coordinate some savage beat downs around the moshes. I can imagine it's not as useful of an ultimate solo queued.
jediyoshi
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Aang skin variation is GOAT. They ruined the need for any more skins.
jaundicejuice
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Even when the Monk goes quasi-healer/assassin he can out-heal Blink heal, all in on healing talents Brigthwing.
Pyros_Eien
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Hmm maybe you want to re-read the patch notes, now you get 50%reduced damage AND minions do more damage around you. And she got a buff to baseline whirlwind and health. They did nerf the tanking towers/keeps etc aspect though, but overall feels like a stronger talent, or at least breaks even.
Wafflecakes
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Wait. Didn't see that.
Premature hissy fits are a real concern
Unless you don't give 2 fucks about Avatar
Robottiimu2000
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Well, you can imagine how useful a mosh pit is with no one around, and perhaps be suprised how often you see this
jediyoshi
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Is that 2 whole fucks? What's the exchange rate on fucks to mehs?
Meh implies having seen something and feeling indifferent. No Fucks means you didn't seen/played/done said thing because you have actual zero interest in it.
So no exchange rate
wats up bb u less salt now or more salt?
Me and Proto only played two tonight. 2-0 though.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
> Rank 11
> This guy doesn't know about Monk being a support
Oh well, on a positive note. Kharazim is still a really fun character - just got his ass to 9. The struggle to 10 continues.
> This guy doesn't know about Monk being a support
Oh well, on a positive note. Kharazim is still a really fun character - just got his ass to 9. The struggle to 10 continues.
Robottiimu2000
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Meh implies having seen something and feeling indifferent. No Fucks means you didn't seen/played/done said thing because you have actual zero interest in it.
So no exchange rate
Meh to fucks trade is the future man!!... I'll trade you 5:1!
Aquavelvaman
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This game needs a deathlog more than anything else. Show me the last 10 sources of damage on me, please
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I would seriously love this
AbundantChoice
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Yup. The thing I was always forgetting when I first started using Azzy was just how *long* the range on the Globe really is. You can hit people shockingly far away; it's fun to nail someone who thinks they have successfully disengaged and is running away.
Interfectum
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The best is nailing someone at the healing fountain or just as they try to hearthstone out.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I'm glad I'm not the only one complaining about how shit the match making in HL seems to be. I don't know if this is a new issue or not, but I have yet to be placed with another person with a similar ranking as me.
The past 5 or so games, I've been matched up with unranked people and rank 40s. I've even gotten a few PMs after the games asking "why the hell did they place me with you"?
The past 5 or so games, I've been matched up with unranked people and rank 40s. I've even gotten a few PMs after the games asking "why the hell did they place me with you"?
Aquavelvaman
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The new Kerrigan Q build is really fun. 10% heal every time you q, get a mana and cooldown refund if you get a kill on anything, and the shield talents for crazy tankiness. In minion waves you just spam q on anything with half health and clear the whole wave instantly. Builds a ton of shields up and heals you for 10% each minion - you can go from half health to full + 2k shields in one minion wave once you have all the shield talents. Feels tankier than some of the bruiser warriors.
Teammates body blocking you? You gotta take that into account and try to escape sooner or position differently. It happens a lot
Dice
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I feel you on that. SO MUCH body blocking by your own team. Fucking shameful.
So you, if you know what you're doing, realize that the timing might be tight, but you can actually time things correctly to drop something and move back out before they can respond... or at least that is how it would work if your team didn't take your moving in as a signal to all-in and run up right behind you, and then proceed to use you as a shield before they die themselves because they have no comprehension of timing and ranges.
Doesn't necessarily work that way. See, what often happens is enemies are rolling in wrecking shit. Your entire team is too chicken shit to do anything so they kind of dance around watching the enemy team completely get away with it.
So you, if you know what you're doing, realize that the timing might be tight, but you can actually time things correctly to drop something and move back out before they can respond... or at least that is how it would work if your team didn't take your moving in as a signal to all-in and run up right behind you, and then proceed to use you as a shield before they die themselves because they have no comprehension of timing and ranges.
I usually body block enemy players with my murky with bubbles half the time to help my allies escape and the other half to annoy. Annoyed the fuck out of them to the point they just chase me forever
Virtual ticket for Blizzcon is up for sale, but still no word on what the in-game loot is. Somehow I doubt it'll approach the awesomeness of the Nexus Charger.
Definitely appears to be less goblins around, for sure.
25/50 goblins killed... I feel that only 1/3rd of my games have goblins in them
Definitely appears to be less goblins around, for sure.
Had it happen to me in my first two HL games at 3k+ MMR. I healed ~115k and landed several good Palms but we lost as our tank (the complainer) just kept running away from the rest of the us and getting killed. He started draft by saying "could we get a real support plz" "monk is not real support".
At the end of the game he says, "like i said, difference between a good healer and a bad one".
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Your rank is just a number. The hidden MMR is still the real measure. For example I had higher MMR on account #2 but was not rank 1, however on account #3 I was rank 1 with lower MMR by about ~300 MMR. It was simply because I hadn't played enough games yet, but that's also why people in placement (or before this patch, new people to HL) end up in games with high ranked players. They get on a good run and the MMR inflates.
The hope was this reset would change some of that, but it seems not. Spyrian responded on the official forums about it:
Spyrian said:
A portrait for killing 50 of em.
Well that's boring.
Less salt until I play hots later I'm sure
I still don't see how it can be accurate, and how they can achieve their "each rank is 2% of the playerbase", when its impossible to drop ranks from 40 to 50. At some point you *will* win eough matches in a row to go up a rank...
From wht I can tell, the only real purpose of this change was to push existing playes down in rank, and remove some of the rank 1 players who got there with a ridiculous skill bonus and tiny number of matches. There seems to be a hard cap on the rank you can start it - no-one is getting higher than rank 5 after their placement matches, so you then have to grind up from there.
The entire system doesn't work to be honest, and I don't think it ever will. They should just have different leagues like in LoL, or Starcraft. The entire thing is obtuse, confusing and defies common sense.
From wht I can tell, the only real purpose of this change was to push existing playes down in rank, and remove some of the rank 1 players who got there with a ridiculous skill bonus and tiny number of matches. There seems to be a hard cap on the rank you can start it - no-one is getting higher than rank 5 after their placement matches, so you then have to grind up from there.
The entire system doesn't work to be honest, and I don't think it ever will. They should just have different leagues like in LoL, or Starcraft. The entire thing is obtuse, confusing and defies common sense.
Orochinagis
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Wow, compared to others patches I am in a losing streak in this one, the enemy team just simply out damage us in the first TFs and its a lost cause after that, they got map control for the rest of the map.
I think the point of ranked is to be hard to climb, Hell I made it to 20 (then got demoted to 24), some of the HL I was playing looked like QM with people doing some easy mistakes you can do in ranked and not get punished like LoL where one mistake can be a nightmare for your whole team
I think the point of ranked is to be hard to climb, Hell I made it to 20 (then got demoted to 24), some of the HL I was playing looked like QM with people doing some easy mistakes you can do in ranked and not get punished like LoL where one mistake can be a nightmare for your whole team
I think they are trying to reorganize it so it's less easy to climb since it was kind of simple before, i appreciate their attempt to get it closer to mmr (and i assume this will be done again in the future)
I do prefer the other moba systems but i kind of feel they are in this identity limbo with it
Like my preferred way of ranking is showing actual mmr and then making categories out of the ranges based on stats, but that seems to go against everything blizz wants for this game.
They want to keep it opaque i think? Where ppl can exist in ranked without assigning really arbitrary measures of skill to the ranks (but once you pass rank 1, which is kind of easy to achieve if you maintain a positive ratio, an actual numbered person to person ranking can emerge), especially since this moba is more dependent on other players on the team for success. Having named ranged ranks would probably go against the casualness that they are trying to foster
I do prefer the other moba systems but i kind of feel they are in this identity limbo with it
Like my preferred way of ranking is showing actual mmr and then making categories out of the ranges based on stats, but that seems to go against everything blizz wants for this game.
They want to keep it opaque i think? Where ppl can exist in ranked without assigning really arbitrary measures of skill to the ranks (but once you pass rank 1, which is kind of easy to achieve if you maintain a positive ratio, an actual numbered person to person ranking can emerge), especially since this moba is more dependent on other players on the team for success. Having named ranged ranks would probably go against the casualness that they are trying to foster
I understand what they want to accomplish with the ranks. Hiding MMR, trying to curb some forms of elitism and toxicity, etc.
I also understand their reliance on using an MMR spread to matchmake in both QM and HL versus forcing others to face MMR vs MMR or rank window vs rank window as we've had a couple deep dives into the only stats we have available (hotdogs) bear out that the MMR averaging doesn't have all that much bearing on winning or losing versus matchmaking in games where ranges are close.
I would still prefer if we got ranks vs ranks, though, simply because it's cleaner and more intuitive and it seems like they want cleaner and more intuitive. If I'm rank 20, I would prefer my MMR to be so in sync that I play no one higher than rank 15 and no one lower than 25 (and preferably a smaller window than that, honestly).
Maybe that's where they intend to take it, I dunno, but for now it's MMR averages or bust. The averages do not affect the games as much as we think, but I do think the perception of the averages due to being able to see each other's rank (and/or MMR by checking hotdogs in the lobby as some folks do) does affect the games because people get on tilt before they even hit the field.
I also understand their reliance on using an MMR spread to matchmake in both QM and HL versus forcing others to face MMR vs MMR or rank window vs rank window as we've had a couple deep dives into the only stats we have available (hotdogs) bear out that the MMR averaging doesn't have all that much bearing on winning or losing versus matchmaking in games where ranges are close.
I would still prefer if we got ranks vs ranks, though, simply because it's cleaner and more intuitive and it seems like they want cleaner and more intuitive. If I'm rank 20, I would prefer my MMR to be so in sync that I play no one higher than rank 15 and no one lower than 25 (and preferably a smaller window than that, honestly).
Maybe that's where they intend to take it, I dunno, but for now it's MMR averages or bust. The averages do not affect the games as much as we think, but I do think the perception of the averages due to being able to see each other's rank (and/or MMR by checking hotdogs in the lobby as some folks do) does affect the games because people get on tilt before they even hit the field.
At this point I would pay to unlock a solo queue ranked mode. I just don't understand the lack of one.
There are plenty of players to go around and I think a solo queue ranked mode would bring even more into ranked regularly as most of us run into "no one online to group with" at least a few times a week. It completely evens the playing field.
There are plenty of players to go around and I think a solo queue ranked mode would bring even more into ranked regularly as most of us run into "no one online to group with" at least a few times a week. It completely evens the playing field.
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