It hurts. https://www.google.com/search?q=hotslog+reddit+analysis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Having a wide gulf is not uncommon at all. This is a problem:
Even if you win, you are still going to have a miserable experience due to the difference.
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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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the gulf is not a real gulf
like besides hotslogs being not a great source of info for mmr disparity, there is absolutely nothing in place that forwards the idea that someone being 1800 is worse than someone being 2300
1st comment in the thread also reveals the too singular conclusion of the last graph, what a weird thing to hold on to in a team game.
Adding to the pool of anecdotes: I constantly party w/ ppl who end up being the lowest mmr in the game, and in those games I am also constantly the highest mmr in the game, but I win these much more than I lose
I've also been the sole reason we've lost too
the problem w/ hotslogs since inception is that it's stats have almost only been used for confirmation bias, whether it's builds or winrates, these things really aren't as linear as most ppl make it out to be
like besides hotslogs being not a great source of info for mmr disparity, there is absolutely nothing in place that forwards the idea that someone being 1800 is worse than someone being 2300
1st comment in the thread also reveals the too singular conclusion of the last graph, what a weird thing to hold on to in a team game.
Adding to the pool of anecdotes: I constantly party w/ ppl who end up being the lowest mmr in the game, and in those games I am also constantly the highest mmr in the game, but I win these much more than I lose
I've also been the sole reason we've lost too
the problem w/ hotslogs since inception is that it's stats have almost only been used for confirmation bias, whether it's builds or winrates, these things really aren't as linear as most ppl make it out to be
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
We're pushing hard, making a good comeback from a disadvantage. We get their core to 61% with all of them dead. Two of us are dead but 3 are at near full health with merc support. Mines activate and the 3 go into mines instead of pushing despite us telling them to push. Of course the team revives and rushes our core before they can finish mines and our team is too slow and staggered in their return so they get picked off one by one and we lose.
"Just politely guide your team via chat" they say. "If you're good you'll get wins despite your teams and improve your rank" they say.
"Just politely guide your team via chat" they say. "If you're good you'll get wins despite your teams and improve your rank" they say.
chu adding on the zps observations about rank 1
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth.../new_matchmaking_system_will_discourage_some/
love "I must first explain how mmr works"
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth.../new_matchmaking_system_will_discourage_some/
love "I must first explain how mmr works"
Dr_Boris_Goltz
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Does Neogaf have an ingame channel?
We're always in need of one or two more to play.
We're always in need of one or two more to play.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
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Interesting, I just asked if anyone was around and nobody responded.
Never seen a game this zeitgeisty among the people I play games with. All the people I play Dota with haven't played a game of Dota in a week. All the people I play MonHun with have been playing this too. All the people that used to play Dota but quit because it was too intense for them are playing this. This week I've had two separate game nights (for Civ 5 and once for Warframe) derail and turn into impromptu HotS nights.
I wish this game had a real time spectator mode cause we've constantly got 1 or 2 people too many for a single party and don't want to criss cross over each other in the Mumble.
I wish this game had a real time spectator mode cause we've constantly got 1 or 2 people too many for a single party and don't want to criss cross over each other in the Mumble.
We game today (Haunted Mines) where we were never down in kills/exp but somehow the enemy had been able to push into our base while we were doing other objectives. We managed to turn around their final push with a 4-man mosh pit from me and a team wipe thanks to the rest of my team. Our throne was under 10% HP. When they came and tried to finish the job I had another mosh ready to stop them and by that time we'd had a fully charged up golem winning the game for us by itself. That the first game of HotS where you could practically feel the high fives thru the internet. Such a great MOBA feeling that doesn't happen often enough.
Some of the things you post make me think of the Bad Luck Brian meme.
Just once post something happy.
Complistic
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Hl games also guarantee you'll have at least good team comps 95% of the time.
Finally started doing some HL matches and I can't believe some of the people here have actually made it to rank 30. I'd swear it was their first game ever. So far I've had 3 complete stomps and one that went the other way since my teammates were hilariously bad. Hopefully it's better once I'm done with the placement matches.
Robottiimu2000
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Ooh! Leoric... Nice!
Pyros_Eien
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Looking forward to afking Training games with bots to get that Gazlowe to 5. Otherwise pretty nice selection of heroes, I wanted to test a couple.
RumblingRosco
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Do we know the sales this week?
EDIT: Thanks Mal/Pyros.
EDIT: Thanks Mal/Pyros.
Pyros_Eien
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They were posted a few days ago already, Tychus, Martian Gazlowe and Super Sonya.
HOTS will still be here when you come back tomorrow!
Alternatively I prefer watching streams on Hearthstone launch days because that's when it's the most entertaining for me.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
This makes me happy! I remember the days when you didn't believe in me and Heroes :_:
Random kerrigan note - it seems like the most crucial talent is the one that increases mana and health regeneration by 100% when shielded. You just have much better up time, and it has great synergy with the heal on ravage (which also generates shields, and in turn more health and mana.
One thing that's surprising, to me at least, is that most of the top builds on hots logs (as in, the builds with the highest win %), are picking envenom at level 4. I was under the impression that envenom was not real popular. But are people here using it?
One thing that's surprising, to me at least, is that most of the top builds on hots logs (as in, the builds with the highest win %), are picking envenom at level 4. I was under the impression that envenom was not real popular. But are people here using it?
Pyros_Eien
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I think it was a must before and people haven't bothered changing? I don't really see any other hero picking it up at least, I guess it can still make sense on Kerrigan if you want to solo kill someone, but I don't know, it's really slow now, becomes pretty crappy as you level up if they have any sort of healing(which if it's not QM, they most certainly have).
I've been playing as Illidan a fair bit this week in QM, and am really surprised by how many games have an enemy Illidan as well, considering he's not on rotation.
Mirror matches always annoy me a bit, because I'm worried about the enemy being better at their Hero than I am. Especially with higher difficulty Heroes.
Mirror matches always annoy me a bit, because I'm worried about the enemy being better at their Hero than I am. Especially with higher difficulty Heroes.
Maybe that's why I'm seeing so many Illidans then. Kharazim is also in every game, but I figured it was just because he's brand new, didn't think about people comboing him this early.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Is there anywhere online with pictures of all the new portraits they added?
Orochinagis
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I starting to miss the conversations between the heroes, Deckard is starting to get annoying with the new dialogue
wake me when there is a deck dedicated to elves. Heard the last expansion deck was so random in skills
wake me when there is a deck dedicated to elves. Heard the last expansion deck was so random in skills
Wow at the gap in level one trait talents taken on Kharazim in win rate and pick rate (Diamond MMR):
With Kerrigan, despite the nerf to a longer duration it's not like the other options at level 4 are particularly great. Often Envenom can be the last bit of burst needed to secure a kill (this is also solved by monk's Q+E combo if you play them as a duo). Milly and I have been running Kharazim/Kerrigan at about 72% winrate since patch and I think he takes Envenom most/all of the time.
As for other heroes, Sylvanas still picks Envenom regularly at level 4 (by far and away her most popular level 4 talent) because her other talents there are also pretty lackluster.
With Kerrigan, despite the nerf to a longer duration it's not like the other options at level 4 are particularly great. Often Envenom can be the last bit of burst needed to secure a kill (this is also solved by monk's Q+E combo if you play them as a duo). Milly and I have been running Kharazim/Kerrigan at about 72% winrate since patch and I think he takes Envenom most/all of the time.
As for other heroes, Sylvanas still picks Envenom regularly at level 4 (by far and away her most popular level 4 talent) because her other talents there are also pretty lackluster.
Monk being played in EU on ETS #3.
Team Liquid vs Mozzarella.
Khaldor casting. Twitch link.
The amount of people saying that he can't be a support or solo support seem to think so.
I just huehuehue and keep healin' bb.
Team Liquid vs Mozzarella.
Khaldor casting. Twitch link.
The amount of people saying that he can't be a support or solo support seem to think so.
I just huehuehue and keep healin' bb.
Orochinagis
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Wow at the gap in level one trait talents taken on Kharazim in win rate and pick rate (Diamond MMR):
Dude can outheal other healing classes fairly easy its just a crime
In a team, pref on voice comms.
Monk is a brilliant healer, but in a random QM team he's dreadful. If you don't get a tank and a melee assassin to play with, you're just not going to play the character like he's designed to be played, and it's really sad. He's absolutely not a random healer for all team,s and people first picking him blindly in hero league are as bad as first pick Novas...
(Seriously people, PLEASE stop picking these heroes first!)
I'd say Deckard started to get annoying a good month ago.
The only saving grace he's at least saying something slightly different since the patch.InvaderZimmer
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Play HotS until a loss---> Play Hearthstone until a loss--->Diablo 3
My gaming flowchart as of late.
This makes sense and would be what I did if I soloed.
Typically I do (HOTS):
Hero League til a loss ---> QM ---> after two QM losses I swap accounts
Oh, that's what he does
aka he doesn't know what he's doing ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ ameno ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ jk or am i
EDIT: Best time to watch Twitch - HS card set coming out. The reactions and chat so good.
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