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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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Samurai G0SU
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any impressions on the new map?
Haven't played it myself, but all the feedback I've seen says it's too snowball-y. To the point where they're saying whoever takes the first objective gains an immediate two level lead.
I really hope they're wrong, or at least that it's changed enough from that since the PTR.
Punishers are very strong. They target the closest player.
If you lose an early Punisher (especially the first one), do not and I mean do effing not try to defend it with your whole team. Split up and soak the other two lanes and try to push. You can leave a person or two to defend if you want, but honestly it's almost better to go 4-1 and push down your own fort because all the Punisher will net them is that one fort (and maybe not even that).
If you try to defend with 5, the Punisher will stun and destroy you and you'll be 2 or 3 levels down nearly immediately and you'll never catch back up.
That's why the map appears so snowbally. You have to counter-push when the enemy grabs one because it's too risky to all in defend like you would a normal golem/garden terror/boss.
Using this strategy we only lost one game and that one at least went 22 mins plus (the average was about 12-14 mins on PTR). Granted there was no MMR there, but it seems to be the best bet going in early.
Don't all-in defend the Punisher. Counter like I was describing above. That will prevent the majority of the huge level gaps.
You will have issues getting people who haven't played it to listen to you starting out, likely, but within a week or two people will come around. At the very least this is one of those rare times where you should "do your own thing" and not what the team is doing if they all decide to defend. You'll need to soak as much as possible to make up for the deaths they are gonna stack up trying to defend.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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If the people don't know how to deal with it but personally what worked best for me on PTR was abandoning the lane and just push another one instead trying to make up for the lost XP.
During the Reddit AmA the devs mentioned their strategy and it was using the range of the Cena (Punisher) to steer him away from structures and/or the enemy team.
Same with the stun. If only 1 player is within range he'll jump on him guaranteed so put someone who can take it there.
I hate KT on that map, he can steal the objective kills so easily
Thanks! Going to take all that advice to heart immediately for my first matches on there tonight.
This man has the right of it. Abandon lane and counter push. Punisher does shit siege damage, but he wrecks players because his name is JOHNNNNNNNNNNNN CEEEENNNNNNAAAAAA.
Like you ignore our posts about you playing Murky?
And what maps have people ignore objectives? You are seeing this regularly in QM at Diamond now? This one most certainly won't be one of those. One lost objective is huge here.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
You're out of my league too smart...
I'll surprise you guys (well, those who want me to play Murky) in the next few days... trust me on this one (please?) :_:
too smart... I'll surprise you guys (well, those who want me to play Murky) in the next few days... trust me on this one (please?) :_:
Logged in last night and noticed I got 22k gold saved which is weird cause I thought I only had 12k gold when I took a break. Waiting for monk to drop in price I'm thinking I want him
hehe, well even in LoL team will want to kill baron / dragons for buffs. Those scrubs are not welcome there either
hehe, well even in LoL team will want to kill baron / dragons for buffs. Those scrubs are not welcome there either
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Found the comment
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth...rhereosofthestorm_were_back_with_a_qa/cu9t8zo
Maybe from Bundles getting refunded if you already owned components of it
Blizz_JDeShazer said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth...rhereosofthestorm_were_back_with_a_qa/cu9t8zo
Logged in last night and noticed I got 22k gold saved which is weird cause I thought I only had 12kyou gold when I took a break. Waiting for monk to drop in price I'm thinking I want him
Maybe from Bundles getting refunded if you already owned components of it
I wait with bated breath.
You left out the.......YEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I laughed IRL anyway
Logged in last night and noticed I got 22k gold saved which is weird cause I thought I only had 12k gold when I took a break. Waiting for monk to drop in price I'm thinking I want him
We got refunds due to dynamic bundles if we had double purchased any heroes over the year.
Dice
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scrubs are the morons in mid on spider tomb who go b at full hp to go to a developing situation in top lane instead of just running up to top lanehehe, well even in LoL team will want to kill baron / dragons for buffs. Those scrubs are not welcome there either
(because in lol you do that to buy items pre-fight)
someone please make them play right
RumblingRosco
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I played the new map a couple weeks ago. I found it really fun, but man, the Punishers are just insane. They really are super strong. I haven't had enough playtime on the map to develop a good strategy to countering them, but as others have mentioned above, it seems like all-in defending against them is not the way to go. Put 4 on defense and 1 greater pusher (Gazlowe, Sylvanas, Azmodan, etc) on offense or 3D/2O and I think you'll fair a bit better.
You can see the highlights of Punisher carnage here (#1), here (#2), here (#3), and here (#4).
If it were up to me, I'd swap Garden back in for Dragon Shire going out. Man, that's my bane map.
Samurai G0SU
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Thanks for the information guys! This is really helpful so i don't see myself walking into a jumping punisher ready to punch my headoff.
Great tips guys! THANK YOU!
Great tips guys! THANK YOU!
I dunno about that. Just that it's coming today sometime.
I can't log in for another 30 mins to an hour to see.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Samurai G0SU
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My best win-rate is on the spider queen. 75% i believe.
PoweredBySoy
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They took out 3 maps and added 1????
Yes - 9 is too many. It's too much info a=for a new player to take in, and even the pro's have been saying the map pool has gotten too big.
Plus, Mines and Garden utterly suck.
Samurai G0SU
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Yeah i really dislike the mines, garden and the bay.
The bay's lanes just feel so akward to me.
Even though i like the bay the most of of the three. lulzz
Holy crap I think I just lead my first hots game. At first I was pointing out some stuff I thought we could do better and my teammates actually listened to me. At the end I was basically just pinging and telling them what to do and we rushed the enemy team down. Guess watching all those videos and reading all those guides wasn't such a bad idea after all. Probably made some dumb suggestions as well but we were more or less dominating the entire game. Really awesome that my team coordinated with me the way they did.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Tombs is my best cursed and mines are my worst sub ~50% bad
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Okay, wait, are they only taken out of hero league, or are they out of QM and AI too???
Samurai G0SU
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All the maps are kind of bad, they're should only be one tbh.
Everything. You can only play them in custom games for the next week.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
That sucks. I honestly like the large pool of maps, keeps things from getting stale.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Would anyone be mad if they removed Garden? Anyone at all?
oh no u didnt
Me and my group. I think it's everyone's best winrate map that we play with (like 58-62%). Mine on a few accounts. It's the easiest map to comeback on is the main reason I like it.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
haunted mines as the only one? u so devious
RumblingRosco
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I'd love if they got rid of every map except Haunted Mines.
Then, modify Haunted Mines so each golem has 50% less health and deals 50% less damage. But, make the mines re-open twice as often. Then, put a third row of towers up with an extra fort, extending the map to make it wider to compensate for the extra line of defense. Finally, ban all supports that aren't Tyrande and Tassadar.
Then, modify Haunted Mines so each golem has 50% less health and deals 50% less damage. But, make the mines re-open twice as often. Then, put a third row of towers up with an extra fort, extending the map to make it wider to compensate for the extra line of defense. Finally, ban all supports that aren't Tyrande and Tassadar.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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All part of his ploy to remove all the trash from the game
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
lol im laughing for the first time today
and i've played like 8 hours of heroes today
alur, when you coming over bro. i wanna play!
If they made the map smaller it'd be a lot less frustrating.
How come that battlefield of eternity map is so rare? Been playing this game over a week now and have seen every map at least 4-5 times but only 1 time battlefield of eternity and it was on my first day of playing.
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