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[brian!]

That has always been a kind of forest for the trees view on it to me

Like his drinking is stopped by cc true, but like for all warriors if ppl are blowing cc on you during a fight that's you doing your job, it means your damage can move forward. Chen is really good at throwing his body around the enemy backline, creating space, and drawing attention, both his ults are for this too. But his warrior weaknesses are pretty huge too, he sucks at peeling, has no real hard cc, dmg isnt great. He's hard to kill while drinking but most ppl wont attack a drinking chen anyway, or like ur pointing out cc and burst him because he lacks escapes outside of like ulting or bad enemy positioning. So to this end you need like 3 things for him: 1. A backline worth protecting, 2. A backline peel warrior (something like arthas) 3. A contigency heal if you cant catch

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Okay I'm not gonna buy Rexxar right away but will wait he seems too complicated to be fun for me.

 

[kirblar]

Okay I'm not gonna buy Rexxar right away but will wait he seems too complicated to be fun for me.

Yeah, I'm going to wait a while on him too- just bought two 20K mounts and would rather have the cash buffer for now.

 

[Alur]

You get both the goblin and the doubloon? I got both on my main account. Glad they are keeping gobbo around long enough for me to get it on my other account cause I only had gold for the doubloon.

 

[kirblar]

You get both the goblin and the doubloon? I got both on my main account. Glad they are keeping gobbo around long enough for me to get it on my other account cause I only had gold for the doubloon.

Piggy and Gobbo.

edit: Rexxar's winrate is dumpster-tier: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3k9kxj/hotslogs_results_after_one_day_of_rexxar/

I'm shocked he didn't get overtuned like all the other recent warriors.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Yeah, I'm going to wait a while on him too- just bought two 20K mounts and would rather have the cash buffer for now.

I'm saving my gold for when I get Jaina to 10 finally and buy that Masterskin, then rehgar

 

[Alur]

Gobbo kind of grew on me as I played with it. It is ugly, but the noises and the fact it's so ridiculous kind of makes up for it.

I'd love to see an Amani warbear mount now that we have a bear model. And of course Ashes of Al'ar. Can't believe that isn't in yet. They'd print so much money.

edit: Rexxar's winrate is dumpster-tier: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3k9kxj/hotslogs_results_after_one_day_of_rexxar/

I'm shocked he didn't get overtuned like all the other recent warriors.

Yeah he could use some quality of life adjustments. I find him fun though. Just a bit awkward.

 

[brian!]

The dota kit for rexxar is really nice

 

[Syf]

There's potential for a really fun hero with Rexxar but yeah just need to tweak a few things.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Dreadnaught made a video on Rexxar with some advice on how to micro Misha, it should go up sometime today.

There's a trick to have Rexxar attack a different target than Misha, basically you click to assign a target for Misha and then use A to attack a different target, just have to hit the ground. Oh an you can have Misha attack even while mounted you just have to S before you attack with Rexxar.

He's also not too hot on him, but maybe it'll be another Leoric. Most said he was mediocre week 1, well Dread said he's awesome but team overruled him, so maybe not after all. He thinks the leash is a big problem

 

[Ketch]

I don't know. I think he has potential. It's just that controlling the bear is really weird, and it could be tweaked I guess to add some depth to it, but either way I think that if someone were to get really good at manipulating the misha AI they could do serious work with him

 

[Alur]

I think mana problems are a thing too. Especially compared to someone like Leoric.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Leoric's abilities in wraithform should consume mana imo


Ok Rexxar just made Dread ragequit for a short walk, dumpster tier confirmed

 

[Yoshichan]

bought and won't regret

bring on the buffs, blizzard!

 

[jaundicejuice]

I don't think it would hurt to add a control group to Rexxar like they have for The Lost Vikings so people could choose to rely on the A.I., and it would function exactly as is, or if someone wanted they could micro Rexxar and Misha. If you micro Misha you could use the heal, the charge or return. The spirit hawk would be greyed out. If you micro Rexxar, you have all basic abilities but the charge might be difficult to use based on Misha's distance from Rexxar.

They definitely need to bake in the increased axe range you can pick at 7. Right now it's so easy to focus down Rexxar as a ranged hero, because his right-click range is so small.

 

[kirblar]

Leoric's abilities in wraithform should consume mana imo


Ok Rexxar just made Dread ragequit for a short walk, dumpster tier confirmed

I really like that Leoric change. Making him have to possibly hearth to refill in some situations? Not a bad thing.

 

[Orochinagis]

There is something weird with Rexxar AA's distance , somethimes he gets too close so you have to move to keep your distance but misha would follow you and stop attacking the target, returning to the same issue of being too close of the target

Sometimes misha will chase the target while you are running away, the distance will increase twice the normal AA range but Misha keeps attaking so you have to use D to bring her back or you can chase your misha and go for the AA distance again

 

[jaundicejuice]

With the Rexxar patch I've been playing in an inordinate amount of matches with warrior heavy team compositions. Like two to three warriors every game, Rexxar plus one or two other warriors, on both teams. Usually the team with the one good Assassin or damage heavy specialist wins. I've been queuing as Tyrande more to sort of counter this but it's kind of ridiculous.

 

[Alur]

Haha, that's funny. We've already had games with no Rexxars today and lots of no tank games unless one of us is playing tank. Pretty weird.

 

[Ketch]

Yea I think there's just some issues with the bear following you around and attaching/detaching to targets. Like was posted above it's just not consistent, sometimes it'll attack the enemy heroes while you run and sometimes it doesn't.... sometimes it'll be ahead of you running away from you when what you want is for it be next to you. It's just not consistent, which is what makes it feel bad and aggravating sometimes. edit" maybe I just haven't fully come to terms with the AI system.

It should just be push D and click the hero you want it to attack. Push D while it's attacking (or walk out of leash range) and it comes back to you in follow mode. If you use an ability on an enemy while the bear is in follow mode it attacks that target until you push D to bring it back.

With the bear only targetting when you attack or use an ability and D being a weird stance toggle thing it makes it really unwieldy to attack a target with the bear while running away with the hunter. Which is like the #1 main thing you wish you could do reliably.

 

[Rhaknar]

Why do people call the D a stance? Isn't it just a "call Misha to you" button?

 

[kirblar]

Why do people call the D a stance? Isn't it just a "call Misha to you" button?

Rexxar/Misha are designed to feel like a WoW Hunter - that's where the aggro/defense stance term comes from.

 

[Ketch]

No I'm calling it a stance because that's what it is. attack stance = misha attacks whatever you attack. defense stance = misha stands right next to you and does nothing. It's not a "call misha to you button" because switching to defense stance does indeed call her back BUT you have to toggle it back to attack stance AND then also right click or use an ability on someone for her to start attacking again.

so it's not just an attack button or a heel button.

it's a stance or toggle or mode

 

[jaundicejuice]

I hope the community drops Rexxar like a sack of hammers.

 

[Milly79]

Found Dice's theme song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4

 

[jaundicejuice]

Guy Fieri was a pretty cool singer back in the day!

lol

 

[Raxus]

I really like Rexxar but Blizzard has to lighten up their stance on simplicity and really let players micro the bear for him to shine. Also overhaul his ability pool.

 

[Rhaknar]

No I'm calling it a stance because that's what it is. attack stance = misha attacks whatever you attack. defense stance = misha stands right next to you and does nothing. It's not a "call misha to you button" because switching to defense stance does indeed call her back BUT you have to toggle it back to attack stance AND then also right click or use an ability on someone for her to start attacking again.

so it's not just an attack button or a heel button.

it's a stance or toggle or mode

Ah that..that kinda sucks

 

[Alur]

Ah that..that kinda sucks

After pining for so long you still haven't tried Rexxar yourself? Am disappoint sir.

 

[Rhaknar]

After pining for so long you still haven't tried Rexxar yourself? Am disappoint sir.

I bought the bundle but yeah, didn't try him. I got 4 days off work this weekend I'll go deep then

Do you also hate him like everyone else seems to?

 

[Alur]

Nah I think he's fun to play. Just needs some love is all.

 

[Ketch]

King caffeine says he's good so now we know

 

[kirblar]

Dunk and one of the Virtua Pro guys have replaced Kevin on THH today.

 

[jaundicejuice]

I kinda wish Rexxar was genuinely more Beastmaster with Lone Druid's Bear. Misha taking up two of Rexxar's basic abilities makes the hero boring to play. Half the reason I pick Flare and Feign Death, aside from both being useful, is just so I have more active abilities, although one is still related to Misha.

The most constant thing you're doing is toggling your trait off and on to get Misha out of a bad position and send her back in. It's kind of annoying.

 

[Alur]

I love when Dunk is on THH.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Playing MGS while listening to THH, awesome

 

[kirblar]

"Is it Hero League that's not fun, or is it Heroes?"

"It's Hero League."

What is the name of this league Jared's talking about? (This whole conversation is all about what we went off on the last few pages.)

 

[Ketch]

yoink!

 

[Alur]

Dat avatar!

 

[DaMasta113]

I have a 2013 MBP with the following stats that handles it pretty well:

I have the 2013 13" MBP. Not as beefy as the 15" (size matters hur dur). What settings do you have the game on?

 

[Ketch]

I really like rexar but I've got like a 25% win rate with him =(

 

[Alur]

If the face plays taunt, me still go face. - Rexxar 2015

I really like rexar but I've got like a 25% win rate with him =(

I've played 5 QM with him and several more AI. 2-3 in the QM. It was easier when I was soloing, but yeah, I know that feel. I enjoy him but not sure he's my huckleberry.

 

[Saprol]

i want to play stitches because hooks are fun. although he's apparently the worst winrate in the game and hook characters in other games are pretty ok (pudge / clock / thresh / blitz / naut)

 

[Ketch]

If the face plays taunt, me still go face. - Rexxar 2015



I've played 5 QM with him and several more AI. 2-3 in the QM. It was easier when I was soloing, but yeah, I know that feel. I enjoy him but not sure he's my huckleberry.

Well it's mostly just my shitty teammates holding me down.

 

[Alur]

Well it's mostly just my shitty teammates holding me down.

Isn't that the case for all of us?

i want to play stitches because hooks are fun. although he's apparently the worst winrate in the game and hook characters in other games are pretty ok (pudge / clock / thresh / blitz / naut)

He was the best hero period in the game for a time, but he got nerfed into oblivion. Hook can still be a great tool, but yeah, you'll have to really love him to put up with his deficiencies compared to other tanks currently.

 

[jaundicejuice]

I want to create a new battle.net account, name it MethNotEvenOnce, buy Stitches, that Stitches bikini skin and only play that hero on that account.

 

[Ketch]

Isn't that the case for all of us?

Yea for real. Everybody is always the best player on their team.

Spoiler

I'm certainly not gonna blame myself! LOL

I want to create a new battle.net account, name it MethNotEvenOnce, buy Stitches, that Stitches bikini skin and only play that hero on that account.

sounds worth it.

 

[Alur]

I want to create a new battle.net account, name it MethNotEvenOnce, buy Stitches, that Stitches bikini skin and only play that hero on that account.

I made one to only play Funny Bunny Murky. It was fun. No clever name though. Maybe next time?

 

[jaundicejuice]

Given that meth doesn't make it past Blizzard's mature language filter, I would give that account name a week at best. But what a glorious week it would be.

Been playing with a lot of defeatists lately, they decide we've lost the game, they type "gg" (somehow the acronym for good game has become shorthand for it's over or I forfeit), they then mentally check out, and then do something horrendously stupid actually causing us to lose the game. I'm using the non-responsive/non-participating report option in the hopes that Blizzard just matches these people together. Like don't overtly create a Low Priority Queue and let people know they're in this pool as a punishment, just stick them altogether so they can enter this death spiral of negativity and defeatism and drag each other out of the game.

 

[TxdoHawk]

Leoric's abilities in wraithform should consume mana imo

One way or another, Leoric definitely needs some kind of increase in mana consumption. As it stands now, mana issues are all but nonexistent if one takes Fealty Unto Death, and not much worse if you don't. Basically, if you run out of mana, it's likely because you are absolutely crushing lanes or teamfights.

Fixing this would probably also solve his other issue, that being his sustain is just a little too good right now if you build him for it.