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[patchday]

did the fps get worse recently? Havent played in quite awhile but noticed my fps has dropped a lot since last I played. maybe my computer just got way slower tho I dunno

 

[kirblar]

yeah I wish they brought up the stats, it didn't look like she was doing much dmg at all and just getting blocked hard by arthas

I wonder how much BW did to counter her WW AoE.

did the fps get worse recently? Havent played in quite awhile but noticed my fps has dropped a lot since last I played. maybe my computer just got way slower tho I dunno

I'm stuttering more for sure, lots of people seem to be.

Gotta get a new rig this xmas to finally get a recent CPU

 

[brian!]

bwing's healing seemed strong that game somehow, but it is true that a lot of black's damage was warrior aoe

can you imagine when na gets a weekly blizz league and zoia has to do picks for tempo storm, goodbye ts

 

[Ketch]

fucking sonya picked again, and I actually get to watch this time.

LETS GO!


edit: korea is fucking nuts.

 

[kirblar]

I wonder how a Pyromaniac/Fury of the Sunwell build would do now.

 

[Proven]

Sonya, Leoric, Raynor... a lot of my favorite heroes are on MVP Black. I'm going to enjoy this match.

 

[brian!]

@kirblar
probably awful

furion is a great pick
pretty perplexed at tychus pick even though this is one of his best maps, I guess nothing can really kill him post-16 tho

this is such an ideal comp for sonya and for sonya to play against

 

[kirblar]

Letting a team pick up Uther, Sonya and Leoric uncontested seems insane.

 

[brian!]

first pick is insane in this meta
I was thinking about if they could do 6 bans, or even have all 4 be at the beginning of the draft but there are problems for both with game as it is

 

[Ketch]

I wonder how a Pyromaniac/Fury of the Sunwell build would do now.

I like pyromaniac with energy roil at 1. It makes you a utility beast. still would go with the shield at 16 though.

especially if your up against a lot of melee heroes, the two/three man stuns are a lot more common. getting multiple multi man stuns off in a fight is pretty good.

first pick is insane in this meta
I was thinking about if they could do 6 bans, or even have all 4 be at the beginning of the draft but there are problems for both with game as it is

maybe after medic comes out if medic is a good solo healer. I'd like to see two bans up front and then one ban mid way. same draft as now just start it out with an additional round of one ban each.

also, uther needs to beaten with the nerf bat.

 

[brian!]

prolly gonna need a lot more heroes before they could do that (and better balancing), but I'd like to see that, I'd like the all bans at the beginning too because it makes the drafting more fun to watch in a call and response kind of way

I'd believe in the reverse sweep from snake if I didn't think mvp had a bunch of stuff stashed away

 

[Ketch]

I think the balancing is getting close. I feel like almost every hero could be picked, and more bans would high light this. Maybe they need a bigger hero pool in general, but I don't know how many more heroes they would need to make 6 bans work... I feel like right now the only thing holding it back is how critical it is to have a main healer, and how few main healers there are. .

 

[kirblar]

I think the balancing is getting close. I feel like almost every hero could be picked, and more bans would high light this. Maybe they need a bigger hero pool in general, but I don't know how many more heroes they would need to make 6 bans work... I feel like right now the only thing holding it back is how critical it is to have a main healer, and how few main healers there are. .

It is definitely getting much closer. The warriors need the work right now because there's too big a feast/famine thing there- the assassins/specialists are in really good shape. Uther definitely needs a shavedown as well, hes completely absurd.

lol @ Illy/Abby tho. Has this worked for....any team?

 

[brian!]

I think there are too many strong warriors atm (and a large gap between them and picks like etc/stitches/diablo) which influences stuff too hard, and yeah the whole not enough healers thing

I agree that a lot of stuff is pickable too, but mostly I think the great combos are so easy to pick up/steal atm, and while more bans helps that I think it'd also force ppl onto heroes that are kind of a gulf away from the better heroes.


ughh lamb to the slaughter for sure here

 

[Proven]

Butcher by Black vs. Hammer on Snake. Fun.

 

[Ketch]

It is definitely getting much closer. The warriors need the work right now because there's too big a feast/famine thing there- the assassins/specialists are in really good shape. Uther definitely needs a shavedown as well, hes completely absurd.

lol @ Illy/Abby tho. Has this worked for....any team?

ehh I don't know... butcher/sonya/monk seems riskier to me

 

[brian!]

love korean hots, both comps seem great
snake needs good hammer positioning really badly tho

obviously we have the spec view, but between this boss and the free keep they gave in the punisher map game snake seems really slow on the draw

 

[Ketch]

yea I was just gonna say that this hammer play is not so great. seems like snake is just outclassed in the skill category.

ie. you can't be misclicking heroics in pro games if you expect to win.

 

[brian!]

ohhh that misclick is so heartbreaking
i feel like hammer is doing ok
i dont think johanna is doing that well tho, I have no clue what she was doing that fight
oof there's the bad hammer positioning

 

[Ketch]

yea snake looks pretty rough here.

also funny that illidan got betrayed there in the bush.

 

[brian!]

mvp ran 4 melee comps in all 3 games
cog wins tourney this weekend confirmed

prtty excited for the c9 drafts

 

[kirblar]

ehh I don't know... butcher/sonya/monk seems riskier to me

It's no, they 've been running 3x Melee 1x Kharazim 1x Ranged comps all patch and blowing people up with them.

Illidan/Abathur is 2-patch old garbage that people keep picking for some idiotic reason.

 

[Ketch]

idk, I feel like MVP could have picked anything

 

[kirblar]

idk, I feel like MVP could have picked anything

And had it been better than Illidan/Abathur?

I agree.

 

[Ketch]

the heroes picked didn't determine that game bro.

switch the drafts, and snake still loses because they played like shit.

 

[Proven]

Alright, off to sleep. Anyone checking in the morning looking for the VOD, look here: http://www.twitch.tv/ognglobal/v/16712366

 

[kirblar]

the heroes picked didn't determine that game bro.

switch the drafts, and snake still loses because they played like shit.

Play includes drafting, and they drafted like shit too. Nothing about that draft makes sense- you get Illidan/Abathur, which appears to have a 0% winrate this patch, the Illidan/Abathur then means they basically have to pick Rehgar, when they have a bad Rehgar player.... its a cascade of horrible decisionmaking in that game even before all the misclick ancestrals.

I get that you have a low tier hero mindset (as in, you like playing them), but Illidan is really, really not in a good spot, especially in the Korean meta, where he doesn't have teams running 3 squishes to feast on.

 

[Ketch]

Play includes drafting, and they drafted like shit too. Nothing about that draft makes sense- you get Illidan/Abathur, which appears to have a 0% winrate this patch, the Illidan/Abathur then means they basically have to pick Rehgar, when they have a bad Rehgar player.... its a cascade of horrible decisionmaking in that game even before all the misclick ancestrals.

I get that you have a low tier hero mindset (as in, you like playing them), but Illidan is really, really not in a good spot, especially in the Korean meta, where he doesn't have teams running 3 squishes to feast on.

It has nothing to do with my supposed "low tier hero mindset". There was plenty of synergy in their draft. Illidan/rehgar/abathur, hammer vs 4 melee, condemn to peal for hammer and bunch people up for her and abathur's aoe, blind counters butcher and also has strong synergy with illidan's evasion.

The draft didn't lose them that game, they didn't leverage any of their drafts strengths. They played very badly and that's why they lost.

Let them swap heroes with black and they still would have lost just as badly.

 

[kirblar]

It has nothing to do with my supposed "low tier hero mindset". There was plenty of synergy in their draft. Illidan/rehgar/abathur, hammer vs 4 melee, condemn to peal for hammer and bunch people up for her and abathur's aoe, blind counters butcher and also has strong synergy with illidan's evasion.

The draft didn't lose them that game, they didn't leverage any of their drafts strengths. They played very badly and that's why they lost.

Let them swap heroes with black and they still would have lost just as badly.

....none of that is actually good vs a team with a high hp pool with absurdly high-self sustain and tons of stuns (Mura/Sonya/Butcher.) Illidan requires your opponents to be drafting a style that isn't really being done right now (lots of squishy backliners) and even then it's pretty marginal and very rough without the Uther.

You could tell they were panicking behind the scenes on the last ranged pick because they had completely imploded in the draft leading up to that- they did not actually have a good option left against the squad they were facing. Having the stunlocks for Illidan alongside Lamb means that they can force out an early cleanse from Rehgar onto either Illidan or Hammer then just go in and blow up the other one. Peeling Muradin, Sonya AND butcher using Jo is going to be absurdly difficult because all 3 have movement options that get them right in your face again and blow up whoever they want to. It was going to be the same issue regardless of what ranged assassin ended up getting picked.

These teams were not even after the draft ended. This was not even close to a 5-5 matchup on paper. I'm not saying Snake would have won - they obviously were playing like shit But they put themselves into a position where they were going to have to play like gods while MVP spontaneously combusted to pull off a win because they had one of the worst drafts I've ever seen in this game.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

Are portraits the hats of this game?

 

[Yoshichan]

Are portraits the hats of this game?

Mounts kinda are. But not to that magnitude, of course.

btw I'm curious, why is there no general overwatch news thread yet?

Because there is almost no news whatsoever for that game Really looking forward to it.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I've not played for more than a week now what is this with the tourney portraits and stuff and are the servers fixed?

 

[Mengy]

One of my friends almost exclusively plays Hammer; that's how much we don't give a fuck.

I play Hammer more than any other hero right now, I just love the playstyle of her. Only Abathur comes close to the amount of fun I have with a hero!

Some really bad picks for Battlefield of Eternity. Why would you pick Murky, Sergeant Hammer, or Abathur for that map?

Hammer rocks on BoE map, I can sit out of range of any of the Eternal's attacks, siege up, and just blast him down solo faster than half of the enemy team can to our own Eternal. I never have to move or unsiege or anything, I can just sit there blowing him away. And I can even position myself to rock any of the opposing team when they come to the center point during transitions too. Nah, Hammer is great on that map.

BTW does anyone rage at this game and not many other games or vice versa? I seem to be content with whatever happens in HotS, unless I clearly made a dumb mistake, but in other games(mainly csgo and h1z1) the salt is flowing from my veins haha.

I pretty much never get made after a game of HotS, no matter if I win or lose, no matter if my team played good or bad. I just like playing the game I guess.

 

[Robottiimu2000]

It really gives you perspective to watch my 6yo son, as he has moved on from training to playing beginner level vs. ai games..

(Which is great because I can make him do the dailies, as our new born baby sleeps all day and is awake evenings and nights creating severe need for a pause function to all the games I currently play, diablo lvl 70 here I come)

But getting upset over your teammates who apparently are mostly 4 to 5 yo.. Just does not make sense to me anymore, they can't even read!

 

[Savitar]

Been busy due to college and net connection here not being the best, are you still able to get Deaths horse if you get to max rank in the new season in Diablo III?

If so, I got a Ultra Violet/flixster code for Mad Max Fury Road I'd give to someone if they got me to said rank in DIII.

 

[Yoshichan]

and are the servers fixed?

Hahahahaha

no

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Hahahahaha

no

 

[Yoshichan]

I am so, so unbelievably tired of the server stability these past three days. I can not even fathom how hard it could possibly be for a multi-million dollar company to fix such an issue - especially after having so much previous experience in the online department. I think I'm currently sitting at loss #10 or so in the past three days, solely because someone (be it me or my buddies) on my team has disconnected - and of course it never seems to be happening on the opponent side.

How evil my wishes might be, every single part of me wants the Americas Championship to be a complete utter disaster in terms of internet stability so that truly realizes how much of a fuck up they've managed to put themselves into.

So please, if there is a higher power, my true inner wishes right now is to see every single fucking attempt of a game in the championship go to the shitter so that the entire community can laugh at the incompetency that is Shitzzard.

 

[kirblar]

I am so, so unbelievably tired of the server stability these past three days. I can not even fathom how hard it could possibly be for a multi-million dollar company to fix such an issue - especially after having so much previous experience in the online department. I think I'm currently sitting at loss #10 or so in the past three days, solely because someone (be it me or my buddies) on my team has disconnected - and of course it never seems to be happening on the opponent side.

How evil my wishes might be, every single part of me wants the Americas Championship to be a complete utter disaster in terms of internet stability so that truly realizes how much of a fuck up they've managed to put themselves into.

So please, if there is a higher power, my true inner wishes right now is to see every single fucking attempt of a game in the championship go to the shitter so that the entire community can laugh at the incompetency that is Shitzzard.

Championship is on LAN. They're not that stupid.

 

[Yoshichan]

Championship is on LAN. They're not that stupid.

Oh so suddenly they have the technology for LAN?

My dreams, shattered.

 

[brian!]

yaaas lets do it
http://www.twitch.tv/blizzheroes

mg was looking pretty good last time i saw them
pre-game hype videos!! blizz has come so far

 

[kirblar]

I could've gone to this (Frontier air special and I live near dulles) but I didn't want to blow my vacation days on it.

 

[brian!]

hopefully the commentators get a grip at some point lol

 

[kirblar]

I really hope MG goes 4xMelee here.

edit: Nope, squishies.

 

[brian!]

man i hate these comps compared to last night
thrall is good w/ uther but thrall/uther/tyrael is the dream

 

[kirblar]

man i hate these comps compared to last night

I feel like TS knows they can just draft standard and win.

This is exactly the type of situation you go 3x tank in w/ Ty/ETC.

 

[Yoshichan]

where's my fucking portrait

 

[Syf]

where's my fucking portrait

unlocks in october

 

[brian!]

i like mg's comp a little more, if they can prevent themselves from standing on top of each other
haha what a difference with na and korea, I luv it tho

i dunno about this overlay, so bulky

 

[Yoshichan]

unlocks in october

but how do we even know that it worked and that we can look forward to the portrait in october? i don't trust blizzard with these technical things.