RumblingRosco
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You can only random characters you have unlocked, right? So the odds are way higher if you have only a few purchased Heroes.
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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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You can only random characters you have unlocked, right? So the odds are way higher if you have only a few purchased Heroes.
McIntyre is spamming AI training games attempting to get Artanis right now.
So far he has failed, but he has the pre-order.
EDIT: McIntyre streaming Artanis right now - http://www.twitch.tv/mcintyrelol
So far he has failed, but he has the pre-order.
EDIT: McIntyre streaming Artanis right now - http://www.twitch.tv/mcintyrelol
Familienoberhauptvogel
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You could probably increase the chances of getting him if you queue as 5 and everything but the random player picks a non warrior. Unless there's 0 party composition rules for vs AI
Hemi-PoweredDrone
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Is there a site that lists the PTR changes like what Surrender@20 does for LoL?
Clearly we've got some time, but hero predictions after Artanis?
I'm going to say Kel'Thuzad as a ranged assassin will be next.
- iirc, Blizz has said no more warriors for a while
- no more diablo heroes for a while
- probably a while before more supports, as they made a big deal about getting the medic out in order to implement double bans and still have enough supports
- we know there were plans for him since quite a while back, and have seen an unfinished model of him
- Zul'jin also a possibility as ranged assassin, but we just got a hero with throwing axes (Rexxar), so mixing it up makes more sense
Kel'Thuzad could definitely work as a specialist too, but I'm just hopeful for an assassin as we need a few more ranged assassins specifically.
I'm going to say Kel'Thuzad as a ranged assassin will be next.
- iirc, Blizz has said no more warriors for a while
- no more diablo heroes for a while
- probably a while before more supports, as they made a big deal about getting the medic out in order to implement double bans and still have enough supports
- we know there were plans for him since quite a while back, and have seen an unfinished model of him
- Zul'jin also a possibility as ranged assassin, but we just got a hero with throwing axes (Rexxar), so mixing it up makes more sense
Kel'Thuzad could definitely work as a specialist too, but I'm just hopeful for an assassin as we need a few more ranged assassins specifically.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
For Blizzcon, they implied at least two of the new heroes include an Overwatch character and a retro character.
Kel'Thuzad seems like a pretty safe bet for an unveil too however.
ah, I knew there was a statement about visiting a universe they hadn't intended to do quite so soon, but thought that applied to a single hero, which I figured was probably Overwatch's Tracer. I didn't realize there were hints toward the Retro character as well (which sounds like it would have to be Kyle from Blackthorne)
Hemi-PoweredDrone
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If it's an Overwatch character,I wonder who. First instinct would be to say Tracer since she's featured prominently in the trailer, but I feel like it'd be easy for them to end up making her really similar to Nova or Zeratul. My personal hope would be for Lucio since he has the coolest character design, in my opinion, but I doubt it.
This is true, but we did need a Starcraft Warrior, just as we needed the Diablo Support (which ended up being Kharazim).
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
What are all his abilities, exactly? Watching the stream but can't grasp it
Q = dash forward then back. Zero invulnerability, more of a waveclear ability or finisher
W = its an attack speedup, works to lower his trait CD
E = swaps him and an opponent. Very short range.
According to Mc, W, then E to swap someone behind you, Q to hit them and then W again once its off CD is the way to go to max burst.
He's a Sonya-type, he's not traditionally tanky at all but can get a lot of virtual HP with the trait.
And like Sonya, stuns murder him.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Artanis has access to seasoned marksman and follow through if his damage is ok he could be a beefier Zeratul without stealth.
In my mind, Tracer would be a really fragile speedster of an assassin. She'd have less range than Nova, but obviously more than Zeratul. No cloaking like they have, but she'd have a teleport similar to Zeratul's blink. One of her abilities (or her trait) would be her time reversal from Overwatch, restoring her position and health from several seconds ago.
She'd still be focused around jumping into and out of combat like Zer/Nova, but moreso around her direct mobility and her time warping.
jaundicejuice
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A retro character means Blackthorne.
I'm so excited for these changes to go live. ETC lookin strong means mosh pits might happen. Tass shield buffs + medic = illidan. Rexar already got some play and now he's way better. For the first time like ever Ranged assassins (mages) don't seem to be mandatory picks anymore, but at the same time they're still really good.
Zeratul is like the only the only holdover, he'll still probably be first ban/pick I mean which is kind of a bummer. But I don't know what they can do to him without making him bad.
Zeratul is like the only the only holdover, he'll still probably be first ban/pick I mean which is kind of a bummer. But I don't know what they can do to him without making him bad.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Zeratul got hit pretty hard, with the reduced range on VP he has to get dangerously close now to use it.
Wormhole nerf only makes juking more difficult and stuns even more effective against him.
Uther has already been receiving bans in his place and with no changes to him it really only comes down to whether Zeratul or Leoric were hit harder
Wormhole nerf only makes juking more difficult and stuns even more effective against him.
Uther has already been receiving bans in his place and with no changes to him it really only comes down to whether Zeratul or Leoric were hit harder
Leoric seems fine to me in the couple games I've played. Early waves are more like 1/2 or 1/3rd health after Q instead of 1/4th, but it's still not terrible. He can't just one shot the wave anymore, but neither can Johanna so it kind of evens itself out IMO.
Everything else is still good and he's still a menace to any warrior/big HP target he encounters.
Everything else is still good and he's still a menace to any warrior/big HP target he encounters.
Sonya's slam no longer resets her AA cooldown. (bugfix)
We gonna see a lot more bans, lol.
edit: Sonya’s Seismic Slam, Tyrande’s Light of Elune, and Zeratul’s Cleave will no longer place the Hero’s Basic Attack on cooldown.
That's good for Zeratul, it helps alleviate the Wormhole nerf DPS wise.
We gonna see a lot more bans, lol.
edit: Sonya’s Seismic Slam, Tyrande’s Light of Elune, and Zeratul’s Cleave will no longer place the Hero’s Basic Attack on cooldown.
That's good for Zeratul, it helps alleviate the Wormhole nerf DPS wise.
I feel like Wrath vs her base damage ratio needs to get fixed in order to get Leap viable again. It's a mandatory talent right now because of just how big a boost it is to her DPS.
Hemi-PoweredDrone
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I feel like part of the problem might be from how long you can keep it up. I played her last night for the first time in forever, It's so easy to have that active for an entire 5v5 fight.
I agree. I used to love taking Leap, but then I started realizing instead of jumping in to engage I could usually just use Wrath instead and walk in and kill at least as many things in the process, usually more.
I still have some problems with her whirlwind too. I'm still not sure when one should actually use it. If you're caught in a pack of heroes with no way out, you can whirlwind to get health back, but you're dealing barely any damage in the process and can still just get focused down instantly. In many cases, it feels like it would be better to just keep seismic slamming the closest fragile target and hopefully take someone down with you if you're in that situation.
Dunktrain streaming as medic right now if you want the high level support play commentary: http://www.twitch.tv/dunktrain
Hemi-PoweredDrone
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God dammit, why does Blizzard keep giving me the Specialist daily. Zagara is the only one I have and the only one I know I enjoy (Sylvanus isn't bad and I haven't tried Abathur) but fuck I don't want to keep playing her.
Clearing out my dailies completely seemed to help un-stuck it, I'm back to normal.
If you don't get the "new quest" animation when you log on, yet you have a new quest (that's the same as yesterday's) you're bugged.
We're not seriously talking about sonya nerfs are we? GTFO pls.
In regards to when to whirlwind, I would say not unless you absolutely have to. Slam and spear are priority, whirlwind is useful for chasing and escaping (can't be blocked). But damage wise and even health steal wise it's super inefficient. So many times you see someone dumping their rage on whirlwind and it does nothing. Worse is when someone gets d-shielded and wastes the whole duration whirlwinding and never throwing out a slam.
Always be slamming.
@kirblar does not resetting AA cooldown mean you can't use it to reset the animation? Because that would kind of suck.
In regards to when to whirlwind, I would say not unless you absolutely have to. Slam and spear are priority, whirlwind is useful for chasing and escaping (can't be blocked). But damage wise and even health steal wise it's super inefficient. So many times you see someone dumping their rage on whirlwind and it does nothing. Worse is when someone gets d-shielded and wastes the whole duration whirlwinding and never throwing out a slam.
Always be slamming.
@kirblar does not resetting AA cooldown mean you can't use it to reset the animation? Because that would kind of suck.
They could just increase the damage on leap. Make it more of a burst tool instead of a stun tool.
If you take the slam talents the damage gets up there even without wrath, buffing base damage might make that a little bit crazy.
I think leap is still okay vs immobile back liners sometimes, but you kinda if have to go slam build which is like a glass cannon.
If you take the slam talents the damage gets up there even without wrath, buffing base damage might make that a little bit crazy.
I think leap is still okay vs immobile back liners sometimes, but you kinda if have to go slam build which is like a glass cannon.
Turdburger
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Sonya and rexxar will be tier 1
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RumblingRosco
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I mentioned this a week or so ago but just now got a video online, but I found a way to stack Abathur's mines into the same physical space. Unfortunately, it's only near the opposing team's fountain and they no longer explode when doing so. I only tested this briefly recently, but I am going to mess around with it a bit more to see if anything else can come from it. Basically, you need to throw a mine into the opposing team's safezone/fountain and it'll be bounced out. Keep placing them in the same spot inside the fountain and they'll bounce out on-top of each other outside the fountain.
~90 second clip here if you're bored, but it's basically exactly as I described above.
~90 second clip here if you're bored, but it's basically exactly as I described above.
Hemi-PoweredDrone
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Yeah, I didn't get the animation. God dammit, it could have been any other class of heroes. Why'd it have to be Specialists. It's taunting me because right now I'm saving up my gold to get Abathur.
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Yeah, they were talking about Abathur/Medic/Illidan theorycrafting on Jake's stream, it seems like it'll be ridiculous.
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