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[TxdoHawk]

Really interested to see what the next patch brings. I expect they've been prepping a big chunk of changes, now that we've had a chance to see what the scaling changes have done to various heroes.

 

[Milly79]

You excel with The Butcher.
Your win rate is 13% better than the average The Butcher player.
You have 62.8% over 51 games, with players averaging 50.0% overall.

You excel with Illidan.
Your win rate is 13% better than the average Illidan player.
You have 55.7% over 79 games, with players averaging 42.3% overall.

You are above average with Kerrigan.
Your win rate is 8% better than the average Kerrigan player.
You have 55.2% over 67 games, with players averaging 46.9% overall.

You are above average with Zeratul.
Your win rate is 6% better than the average Zeratul player.
You have 50.0% over 60 games, with players averaging 44.1% overall.

You produce average results with Thrall.
Your win rate is 3% better than the average Thrall player.
You have 56.9% over 51 games, with players averaging 54.1% overall.

You should probably avoid Nova.
Your win rate is -5% worse than the average Nova player.
You have 46.9% over 143 games, with players averaging 51.9% overall.

 

[Alur]

And he wonders why no one likes when he plays Nova.

 

[Milly79]

To be fair, I did play her when she was garbage.

 

[Alur]

Don't come in here with that logic and common sense breh. Ball don't lie.

 

[Indignate]

Hasn't she always been sort of garbage?

 

[Alur]

Well, I guess she still is really, but she was much stronger in January and before that IIRC. Somewhere in there she ate a bunch of nerfs.

The lack of contribution to the team has always made her kind of a drag on an uncoordinated team in QM. Just sometimes she kills enough to make up for it, and right now she's at a point where she can do that a little more reliably than she has in quite a few months.

 

[Turdburger]

I'm LTTP but, Turdburger, you're a mod on Mc's stream? 'grats on the shoutout in last week's THH.

lol I didn't even know he said that until earlier today actually. but yea i guess i was one of the first regulars in his channel when he started streaming back in early January of last year

its really cool he's having some success now - he was very close to quitting multiple times

Really interested to see what the next patch brings. I expect they've been prepping a big chunk of changes, now that we've had a chance to see what the scaling changes have done to various heroes.

I think they mentioned Tychus and Gazlowe specifically at Blizzcon. Then there's Dustin's recent tweets which mention Artanis and Nova. Lunara will probably push Valla out if they don't change her a little bit. We'll see!

 

[Celegus]

I think they mentioned Tychus and Gazlowe specifically at Blizzcon. Then there's Dustin's recent tweets which mention Artanis and Nova. Lunara will probably push Valla out if they don't change her a little bit. We'll see!

Tychus please! He's one of my favorites (even that hero analyzer link said he's one of my best, 25% better win rate than the average) so I'd love for him to be more viable.

 

[Strider]

Where do I find these stats

 

[Tendo]

I love this compared to Dota. Did a few qms so far and there is a lot more movement from lane to lane and more action. I love not focusing on last hits. Only played valla online so far but will probably try trial or butcher next.

Gonna spend some serious money during this sale...

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Today I played against 6 opponents, the enemy team and lag.

Oh you want to heal yourselves so not to die? Nah bro let me carry through your last command for the next second instead.

Tyrande is awesome though, wish I had the ping to utilize her properly. Played in a match where we managed to constantly lose while winning. We had more kills and better teamfights but were unable to get any tributes, we were constantly behind in structures and at the end threw at the boss.

 

[Milly79]

Where do I find these stats

http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthe...e_a_simple_site_to_give_you_a_glance_at_your/

 

[patchday]

Hero analyzer hatin'

You should probably avoid Tyrande.
Your win rate is -25% worse than the average Tyrande player.

You have 31.8% over 22 games, with players averaging 57.2% overall.

Okay but my win rate is over 60% in Hero League. Where is the filter? I don't give a care bout my Quickmatch stats. Tyrande was like my 1st HOTS character so yeah I lost a crap ton of QM. But she's full of win in HL for me

You excel with Raynor.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Raynor player.

You have 66.7% over 15 games, with players averaging 56.0% overall.

Huh I never considered myself better than any other Raynor character. The kit is so wonderful it's just hard to mess up. But anyways that's good to know

 

[RumblingRosco]

You excel with Abathur.
Your win rate is 22% better than the average Abathur player.
You have 62.9% over 89 games, with players averaging 41.4% overall.

You excel with Stitches.
Your win rate is 18% better than the average Stitches player.
You have 62.5% over 32 games, with players averaging 44.6% overall.

You excel with Azmodan.
Your win rate is 15% better than the average Azmodan player.
You have 61.0% over 41 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.

You excel with Valla.
Your win rate is 17% better than the average Valla player.
You have 63.2% over 19 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.

You excel with Brightwing.
Your win rate is 13% better than the average Brightwing player.
You have 60.0% over 15 games, with players averaging 46.9% overall.

You excel with Rehgar.
Your win rate is 12% better than the average Rehgar player.
You have 58.3% over 12 games, with players averaging 46.3% overall.

You excel with Malfurion.
Your win rate is 10% better than the average Malfurion player.
You have 56.3% over 16 games, with players averaging 46.7% overall.

Abathur game so stronk.

 

[kirblar]

You excel with The Lost Vikings.
Your win rate is 15% better than the average The Lost Vikings player.
You have 67.1% over 76 games, with players averaging 52.5% overall.
You are above average with Jaina.
Your win rate is 6% better than the average Jaina player.
You have 53.1% over 32 games, with players averaging 47.4% overall.
You should probably avoid Stitches.
Your win rate is -5% worse than the average Stitches player.
You have 39.3% over 28 games, with players averaging 44.6% overall.
You produce average results with Falstad.
Your win rate is 0% better than the average Falstad player.
You have 46.7% over 45 games, with players averaging 46.9% overall.
You excel with Valla.
Your win rate is 10% better than the average Valla player.
You have 56.5% over 23 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.
You should probably avoid Zeratul.
Your win rate is -8% worse than the average Zeratul player.
You have 36.0% over 25 games, with players averaging 44.2% overall.
You should probably avoid Malfurion.
Your win rate is -12% worse than the average Malfurion player.
You have 34.8% over 23 games, with players averaging 46.7% overall.
You produce average results with Tassadar.
Your win rate is 5% better than the average Tassadar player.
You have 50.0% over 52 games, with players averaging 44.8% overall.
You should probably avoid Nazeebo.
Your win rate is -11% worse than the average Nazeebo player.
You have 41.4% over 29 games, with players averaging 52.5% overall.

TLDR: Don't make me heal or Melee assassin.

 

[Zafir]

I'm just too good with Falstad.

You excel with Falstad.
Your win rate is 28% better than the average Falstad player.

You have 75.0% over 20 games, with players averaging 46.9% overall.

Other

You excel with Anub'arak.
Your win rate is 24% better than the average Anub'arak player.

You have 72.0% over 25 games, with players averaging 48.5% overall.


You excel with Illidan.
Your win rate is 18% better than the average Illidan player.

You have 59.4% over 32 games, with players averaging 41.6% overall.


You excel with Kharazim.
Your win rate is 16% better than the average Kharazim player.

You have 66.7% over 21 games, with players averaging 50.4% overall.


You excel with The Butcher.
Your win rate is 15% better than the average The Butcher player.

You have 64.7% over 17 games, with players averaging 50.1% overall.


You excel with Stitches.
Your win rate is 14% better than the average Stitches player.

You have 58.3% over 36 games, with players averaging 44.6% overall.


You excel with Brightwing.
Your win rate is 13% better than the average Brightwing player.

You have 60.3% over 151 games, with players averaging 46.9% overall.


You excel with Tassadar.
Your win rate is 12% better than the average Tassadar player.

You have 57.1% over 49 games, with players averaging 44.8% overall.


You excel with Arthas.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Arthas player.

You have 57.1% over 14 games, with players averaging 46.1% overall.


You are above average with Jaina.
Your win rate is 8% better than the average Jaina player.

You have 55.7% over 79 games, with players averaging 47.4% overall.


You are above average with Murky.
Your win rate is 8% better than the average Murky player.

You have 61.0% over 41 games, with players averaging 53.0% overall.


You are above average with Valla.
Your win rate is 8% better than the average Valla player.

You have 54.7% over 75 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.


You are above average with Sgt. Hammer.
Your win rate is 8% better than the average Sgt. Hammer player.

You have 60.9% over 23 games, with players averaging 52.8% overall.

I'm curious as to why some heroes are seemingly missing from the list even though I think they should be there. I guess it just shows top heroes from each "subsection".

Edit: To add, my worst hero -

You should probably avoid Gazlowe.
Your win rate is -25% worse than the average Gazlowe player.

You have 23.5% over 17 games, with players averaging 48.9% overall.

Poor Gazlowe. I do kind of enjoy playing him too. D:

 

[patchday]

this sucks you guys just getting glowing responses out of that thing

only other response I got:

You produce average results with Uther.
Your win rate is -2% worse than the average Uther player.

You have 45.5% over 11 games, with players averaging 47.5% overall.

 

[Alur]

Some of mine and some funnies w/ Kharazim and Rehgar since I use multiple accounts:

My primary alt account. Note the Khara, Uther, and Rehgar winrates:

You excel with Kharazim.
Your win rate is 21% better than the average Kharazim player.
You have 71.2% over 52 games, with players averaging 50.4% overall.

You excel with Azmodan.
Your win rate is 16% better than the average Azmodan player.
You have 61.9% over 42 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.

You excel with Zeratul.
Your win rate is 10% better than the average Zeratul player.
You have 53.9% over 39 games, with players averaging 44.2% overall.

You are above average with Leoric.
Your win rate is 6% better than the average Leoric player.
You have 56.3% over 32 games, with players averaging 50.4% overall.

You should probably avoid Rehgar.
Your win rate is -6% worse than the average Rehgar player.
You have 40.0% over 35 games, with players averaging 46.3% overall.

You should probably avoid Rexxar.
Your win rate is -7% worse than the average Rexxar player.
You have 41.7% over 12 games, with players averaging 49.0% overall.

You should probably avoid Uther.
Your win rate is -9% worse than the average Uther player.
You have 38.9% over 18 games, with players averaging 47.5% overall.

Now compare it to my "Alur" account - particularly the Rehgar and Kharazim parts:

You excel with Rehgar.
Your win rate is 16% better than the average Rehgar player.
You have 62.0% over 71 games, with players averaging 46.3% overall.

You are above average with Valla.
Your win rate is 8% better than the average Valla player.
You have 53.9% over 52 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.

You produce average results with Murky.
Your win rate is 5% better than the average Murky player.
You have 58.3% over 36 games, with players averaging 53.0% overall.

You produce average results with Zagara.
Your win rate is -1% worse than the average Zagara player.
You have 54.2% over 24 games, with players averaging 54.9% overall.

You should probably avoid Kharazim.
Your win rate is -15% worse than the average Kharazim player.
You have 35.7% over 14 games, with players averaging 50.4% overall.

And finally my main account. Again note the Rehgar, Uther and Kharazim silliness:

You excel with Kharazim.
Your win rate is 16% better than the average Kharazim player.
You have 66.7% over 39 games, with players averaging 50.4% overall.

You excel with Leoric.
Your win rate is 16% better than the average Leoric player.
You have 66.7% over 24 games, with players averaging 50.4% overall.

You excel with Kerrigan.
Your win rate is 14% better than the average Kerrigan player.
You have 60.9% over 23 games, with players averaging 46.6% overall.

You excel with Brightwing.
Your win rate is 12% better than the average Brightwing player.
You have 59.2% over 98 games, with players averaging 46.9% overall.

You excel with Uther.
Your win rate is 12% better than the average Uther player.
You have 59.5% over 74 games, with players averaging 47.5% overall.

You excel with Rehgar.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Rehgar player.
You have 57.4% over 101 games, with players averaging 46.3% overall.

You excel with Illidan.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Illidan player.
You have 52.2% over 23 games, with players averaging 41.6% overall.

You excel with Stitches.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Stitches player.
You have 55.7% over 61 games, with players averaging 44.6% overall.

You excel with Zeratul.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Zeratul player.
You have 55.6% over 36 games, with players averaging 44.2% overall.

You excel with Valla.
Your win rate is 10% better than the average Valla player.
You have 56.1% over 132 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.

You excel with Nova.
Your win rate is 22% better than the average Nova player.
You have 73.7% over 19 games, with players averaging 51.9% overall.

You excel with Malfurion.
Your win rate is 12% better than the average Malfurion player.
You have 58.8% over 17 games, with players averaging 46.7% overall.

You excel with Azmodan.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Azmodan player.
You have 57.1% over 14 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.

You are above average with Tychus.
Your win rate is 7% better than the average Tychus player.
You have 53.1% over 81 games, with players averaging 45.7% overall.

You are above average with Sylvanas.
Your win rate is 6% better than the average Sylvanas player.
You have 52.9% over 51 games, with players averaging 46.6% overall.

You should probably avoid Tassadar.
Your win rate is -8% worse than the average Tassadar player.
You have 37.0% over 27 games, with players averaging 44.8% overall.

You should probably avoid Thrall.
Your win rate is -13% worse than the average Thrall player.
You have 41.2% over 34 games, with players averaging 54.2% overall.

You should probably avoid Tyrande.
Your win rate is -7% worse than the average Tyrande player.
You have 50.0% over 14 games, with players averaging 57.2% overall.

71.2% (52 games), 66.7% (39 games), and 35.7% (14 games) winrates on Kharazim.

40% (35 games) 62% (71 games) 57.4% (101 games) winrates on Rehgar.

38.9% (19 games) 59.5% (74 games) winrates on Uther.

Kharazim and Rehgar are probably easily my best heroes (BW notwithstanding), but due to limited games and on the Alur account the Kharazim winrate looks bad. Same thing with Rehgar and Uther on my primary alt account - I kept trying to carry with them at low MMR (1800 when I started when I'm used to playing at the 3k range) like I was at high MMR on my other accounts and you can't do that with support at that level. You have to be damage at that level to truly have an impact on the game.

I don't have too many avoids because I pretty much don't play a hero past 10 games outside of AI unless I am doing pretty decent with it or just really like it. The ones I do generally don't have many games to em.

It is kind of funny that my Tyrande is avoid even though it's 50% winrate due to the way it makes it's calculations.

 

[Turdburger]

another tweet from dustin confirming gaz buffs

THE DAY HAS COME FRIENDS

GAZLOWE TIER 1 MELEE ASSASSIN

 

[Indignate]

Waiting on that day Hammer becomes OP.

That's the day when queuing with my friend who plays only her and Johanna pays off big.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Man I actually had a 13 game win streak going

Then free Artanis and Nova week happened

Good week for a break

 

[jaundicejuice]

It's uglier playing against Nova as Kael'thas with Gathering Power being what it is now. Her right click with the burst build can melt Arcane Barrier and it seems like it does more damage than Triple Tap or Precision Strike.

Waiting on that day Hammer becomes OP.

That's the day when queuing with my friend who plays only her and Johanna pays off big.

She kinda was buffed a while back with the decrease on the cooldown for entering and exiting siege.

 

[Auteezy]

Man I actually had a 13 game win streak going

Then free Artanis and Nova week happened

Good week for a break

artanis is so fun tho. He scratches the same itch as Sonya except not as much so you keep playing him to scratch your itch but he just never fulfills it.

 

[Maledict]

Meh, I'm in the opposite camp for Artanis unfortunately. I think he's their first big design failure in a long time for a hero, and is just badly put together in multiple aspects.

He feels clunky as hell to use - just his movements, his attack range and his overall animations. His blade dash is an actively bad ability outside of wave clear unless you talent for it, and even then it's extremely mediocre at best. His prism is simply bad - too slow, too short range, preventing you from using it to make the plays which would be fun and skill testing. And then his final ability is double strike, one of the most dull and unimaginative abilities in the game (alongside mend pet!).

His kit just doesn't hang well together at all, and I don't know what they were intending him to be. It feels very much like he needs quite a bit of change to become a fun character to play. When two of your basic abilities are so flawed, and the other is so dull, it indicates a real issue with the characters fundamental design in my mind. I don't think they know what they want him to be.

 

[Alur]

I'm in the "he's fun as hell to play" camp.

Not particularly ideal or even useful for large parts of the game, but a good time nonetheless.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Blade dash honestly makes very little sense to me. Like, it reminds me of those bootleg Mexican Street Fighter Champion Edition machines where you could throw fireballs while jumping

Seriously though, it's an ability that ignores collision in a way that makes no sense and gets new players frequently killed, the only part of the attack that surprises anyone does shit damage, it gives anyone with CC a really long opportunity to know exactly where he's going to be and he can't do anything about it once he's started it, and it doesn't synergize with the rest of his design. He should have an ability that makes him stick to people since he's basically worthless without his W, not something which is so bad it's practically a free CC for the opposing team.

 

[Alur]

Blade Dash is terrible. Constantly fucking up just about everything, from your own teammate's skill shots to positioning.

It's still fun darting behind the gate for a snipe though.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I'm in the "he's fun as hell to play" camp.

Not particularly ideal or even useful for large parts of the game, but a good time nonetheless.

Same. He's like murky just not nearly as good.

 

[1up]

Artanis on the free rotation is causing me to lose a lot of games. People blade dashing into the enemy walls and getting tore up by the towers. Players trying to use blade dash as an escape and not getting anywhere. Had a match yesterday where the enemy Muradin made a point to hammer our Artanis every time he blade dashed.

 

[Alur]

I like to think of Artanis as the Yoshican of Heroes of the Storm.

• They both run into things full throttle, full enthusiasm. Headfirst some would call it. Sometimes it's awesome, sometimes it gets him (or inanimate objects) killed.
  
• They both like flipping; Artanis flips people behind him with his (E), Yoshichan flips tables.
  
• They are also both much more powerful late. Artanis sees his damage ramp tremendously with his 16 and 20 talents while Yoshichan can build or destroy a game in chat/thread depending on the results and people found in said games once he reaches the 10 consecutive hours played mark.
  
• Thanks to Yoshichan's post, we know that Yoshichan spent some serious funds on looking good and we already knew Artanis has some of the best skins in the game.
  
• And of course, there's the correlation of leadership. Yoshichan is leader of both Blizzard Is Life fanclub (BIL(tm) - I'm a card carrying member and lobbying for Vice President but it's been a hard campaign because my political enemies have put out ads against me implying I use intimidation tactics) and occasionally he stages a coup d’état and forms the anti-Blizzard club. Either way, he is a leader. Artanis is, of course, the Heirarch and leader of the Daelaam.

All those things sound pretty fun to me. But...

I mean...when you think about it, have you really seen Yoshichan around much since LOTV came out and Artanis was released? Seems kinda fishy doesn't it.

I've never seen them in the same place together...

 

[brian!]

Yeah i tried artanis for the first time last night, blade dash is confusing to me. I feel like it's a risk/reward kind of thing but im not really feeling the reward part. In games ive played w/ and against artanis ppl get baited to waste cds on it but i mean if you stun him it's a free kill

 

[Milly79]

LOL

 

[Strider]

[*]They both like flipping; Artanis flips people behind him with his (E), Yoshichan flips tables.

LMAO

 

[EscapingJail]

http://www.heros-analyzer.com/?player=escapingjail

You excel with Nazeebo.
Your win rate is 23% better than the average Nazeebo player.
You have 75.2% over 105 games, with players averaging 52.5% overall.
You excel with Kerrigan.
Your win rate is 18% better than the average Kerrigan player.
You have 64.9% over 131 games, with players averaging 46.6% overall.
You excel with Sylvanas.
Your win rate is 16% better than the average Sylvanas player.
You have 62.8% over 86 games, with players averaging 46.6% overall.
You excel with The Lost Vikings.
Your win rate is 16% better than the average The Lost Vikings player.
You have 68.4% over 139 games, with players averaging 52.5% overall.
You excel with Abathur.
Your win rate is 16% better than the average Abathur player.
You have 57.3% over 164 games, with players averaging 41.4% overall.
You excel with Rehgar.
Your win rate is 14% better than the average Rehgar player.
You have 60.5% over 43 games, with players averaging 46.3% overall.
You excel with Illidan.
Your win rate is 13% better than the average Illidan player.
You have 54.4% over 46 games, with players averaging 41.6% overall.
You excel with Uther.
Your win rate is 13% better than the average Uther player.
You have 60.9% over 87 games, with players averaging 47.5% overall.
You excel with Jaina.
Your win rate is 12% better than the average Jaina player.
You have 59.8% over 107 games, with players averaging 47.4% overall.
You excel with Valla.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Valla player.
You have 57.8% over 71 games, with players averaging 46.4% overall.
You excel with Tychus.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average Tychus player.
You have 56.5% over 46 games, with players averaging 45.7% overall.
You excel with The Butcher.
Your win rate is 11% better than the average The Butcher player.
You have 60.9% over 23 games, with players averaging 50.1% overall.
You excel with Anub'arak.
Your win rate is 10% better than the average Anub'arak player.
You have 58.3% over 24 games, with players averaging 48.5% overall.
You excel with Brightwing.
Your win rate is 10% better than the average Brightwing player.
You have 57.1% over 56 games, with players averaging 46.9% overall

Feels good bros

 

[TxdoHawk]

another tweet from dustin confirming gaz buffs

THE DAY HAS COME FRIENDS

GAZLOWE TIER 1 MELEE ASSASSIN

I saw another tweet suggesting his rework + Nova rework won't come before the end of the year, but (at least for Gaz) it sounds like they are thinking about some significant changes. Looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

Also, someone drew up this. Yes please. I'll buy it twice.

 

[Strider]

Gaz buffs!?!?

 

[Alur]

Feels good bros

2 pro 4 us. Dem some nice stats.

You guys still have your team going?

Also, someone drew up this. Yes please. I'll buy it twice.

Holy wow. Do want. D.va so good.

 

[Milly79]

EJ too good for us plebs. Feelsbadman

 

[RumblingRosco]

I bet I could take EJ in a 1v1 where I'm LiLi and he's Diablo.

 

[Strider]

After Tracer I hope they release an Overwatch pack with Genji, D. Va and Winston. Maybe throw in Zen too.

All my money

 

[Alur]

They can't put Genji in HOTS.

Who would feed on Illidan then?

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

This is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life

I wish I could wash my eyeballs without going permanently blind

Re: Artanis, I think if they made Blade dash cancellable in mid-dash it would change everything.

 

[Alavard]

I think Genji would probably actually play too much like Graymane. Weaker ranged combat (with his throwing weapons) and then jumping in for quick powerful melee strikes.

 

[Turdburger]

Made a reddit post about (the lack of) Heroic diversity. Check it out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3v6957/nearly_half_of_the_hots_hero_roster_lacks_heroic/

 

[tmtyf]

starting to like artanis. even if he doesnt have an escape can still survive pretty good

https://a.pomf.cat/vxvbfq.webm

did i hear gaz buffs?

 

[Alur]

This is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life

I wish I could wash my eyeballs without going permanently blind

 

[kirblar]

Made a reddit post about (the lack of) Heroic diversity. Check it out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3v6957/nearly_half_of_the_hots_hero_roster_lacks_heroic/

I responded on the thread. I think you're right, but I think there's heroes who need to be left out of the discussion because they're deliberately designed with Solo v 5 man ult options.

edit: We have a pretty huge philosophical difference on how viability non-fight strats should be, I suspect.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Blackscorp is streaming HoTS again. Wonder what that's about.

With a french team either P5 or Power Rangers, they're drafting on Heroesdraft. Just for fun in a small french tournament though

Oh and adrd is subbing on mYinsanity now.

 

[Yoshichan]

wat is going on here

im on my way home and then i'll read