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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK

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yeah he's on stellar lotus, but it'd be cool if he joined bross, he seems like a guy everyone likes and when I watched his stream once he just went ham non-stop so good fit

Erho said on his stream that wiz is good enough but they weren't going in that direction

But that was a week ago things could change

I agree w you itd be a good fit playstyle wise
 

Alur

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Erho said on his stream that wiz is good enough but they weren't going in that direction

But that was a week ago things could change

I agree w you itd be a good fit playstyle wise

What did you think about the Arthelon announcement by Kenma? I know from when we talked you said BRFC hooked up quick after he was a free agent so what gives with Kenma saying C9 was in with him all along?

I'm starting to wonder why I play this over WoW's pvp, when I have a shit experience in this game there are no other meaningful aspects to invest myself in.

If you're not having fun there's no point in playing. Play something that is fun.
 

Venus Van Dam

Neo Member
I always respond with "stop playing plz"
the responses are pretty fun

Sometimes I like to feed the BM player with awkward conversation, until he/she thinks I'm batshit crazy. Other times I surrender to anger and try to outplay the BM behavior. But I know the best thing to do is to mute right away...
 

Alur

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Sometimes I like to feed the BM player with awkward conversation

I have fun doing this when you can tell winning is hopeless, or that you will win despite the complaints.

We had a Lili troll us once by calling us "a bunch of fucking silvers" among other things, so I spent the game questioning him about the menu items of Long John Silvers fast food chain.

It's usually not too bad. I only get salty about it when we are clearly ahead but the troll is upset about a trivial thing, or when the troll is attacking someone else while being obviously subpar at their own job.

It truly is 80% or better odds that the troll in your game is a bad player. Haven't gotten the higher MMR troll too much...though when I have they have definitely been the most obnoxious.
 

Alur

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LOL @ the THH talk on most overrated player.

Zoia trying to shout down Dreadnaught as he talks common sense on why Glaurung and Blackscorp were overrated just to defend his buddy Glau.

Then Dread bodies Cognitive. Good times.
 

Milly79

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LOL @ the THH talk on most overrated player.

Zoia trying to shout down Dreadnaught as he talks common sense on why Glaurung and Blackscorp were overrated just to defend his buddy Glau.

Then Dread bodies Cognitive. Good times.

It's a great episode so far for sure. Shots being fired everywhere, although so hesitant on calling anyone out.

They're so drunk too which makes it unbearable at times with everyone yelling and talking over each other.

Nickhots shots were fucking great and the discord calls were a good idea. Shout out to Escaping for getting in, lol.
 

Milly79

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Double post, don't careeee.

3-0 today, finally broke the 0-13 streak.

Bootcher Tyranduh too good.

Lamb > Furnace all day err' day
 

brian!

Member
checked it out, i like how zuna goes on just to discuss the funyuns

story about how kaeyoh probably stole them because he's a habitual liar is killing me
 

Alur

Member
That last game was the best of times and the worst of times in HOTS.

Great Butcher + Tyrande ganks between us, but a Zagara who went Nydus Network and kept getting ganked by their Nova and said these things at various points in the game.

"I'm gonna get this fucking lane. There's no way they are stopping me."

After 5th death in the same manner:

"So sorry guys. This fucking Nova. Fuck her. FIGHT ME NOVA."

After the 9th death, me:

"How bout you quit running into the Nova and stay with the team?"

Every keep was already down. He said he was trying to lay Nydus for "backdoor purposes".

huehue
 

patchday

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That last game was the best of times and the worst of times in HOTS.

Great Butcher + Tyrande ganks between us, but a Zagara who went Nydus Network and kept getting ganked by their Nova and said these things at various points in the game.

"I'm gonna get this fucking lane. There's no way they are stopping me."

After 5th death in the same manner:

"So sorry guys. This fucking Nova. Fuck her. FIGHT ME NOVA."

After the 9th death, me:

"How bout you quit running into the Nova and stay with the team?"

Every keep was already down. He said he was trying to lay Nydus for "backdoor purposes".

huehue


oh snap thats kinda funny
 
What did you think about the Arthelon announcement by Kenma? I know from when we talked you said BRFC hooked up quick after he was a free agent so what gives with Kenma saying C9 was in with him all along?

I think Ken was lying about that to cover Arthelon's and the team's ass, lol. They're super sensitive to everyone thinking they're a ticking time bomb

Pretty sure they're getting Fan
 
Mines was bad but Booty Bay is by far worst in my opinion. People can't comprehend defending the turn in.

There's a point where you have to let the turn-in go and level. The turn-in on Booty Bay is an experience void. So many teams fall behind on key level gains dry humping the coin turn-in only to get wiped by the other team because of a level advantage.

Tomb of the Spider Queen solves this problem by having lanes flanking the turn-ins.
 

Alur

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I think Ken was lying about that to cover Arthelon's and the team's ass, lol. They're super sensitive to everyone thinking they're a ticking time bomb

Pretty sure they're getting Fan

I think Fan is an amazing player, but he's certainly a weird fit for Rob Boss personality wise. I feel like they'll just run right over him, lol, he seems pretty withdrawn both in his appearances on camera/THH/etc. and in what the other personalities have said about him.
 
That last game was the best of times and the worst of times in HOTS.

Great Butcher + Tyrande ganks between us, but a Zagara who went Nydus Network and kept getting ganked by their Nova and said these things at various points in the game.

"I'm gonna get this fucking lane. There's no way they are stopping me."

After 5th death in the same manner:

"So sorry guys. This fucking Nova. Fuck her. FIGHT ME NOVA."

After the 9th death, me:

"How bout you quit running into the Nova and stay with the team?"

Every keep was already down. He said he was trying to lay Nydus for "backdoor purposes".

huehue

Worst of times would have been Zagara blaming everyone else for dying over and over again.
 

Alur

Member
You're probably right there. This was a step above that I guess.

"How does this obvious strat not work when I keep going back to the same spot?"
 

Alur

Member
That's what's so fucking weird about her, IMO.

She is (to me) the most squishy hero in the game.

Despite that, I've not (and Milly hasn't) had an issue with dying excessively on her. And I've heard this from others and saw it repeated in a reddit thread or two. Usually the standard 1-3 times per game like any other assassin, even some 0-fers, while still putting out plenty of damage numbers-wise.

While her being squishy is so goddamn noticeable, to me it feels like the issue is more in how she applies damage than anything. Maybe she'd apply it better and thicker if she weren't so squishy, but her damage is the most amount of fluff I've seen and what makes her so useless in uncoordinated QM games.

I don't see people dying out of turn on her often like I did people (and still do) with Morales, who is also very squishy. I just see them being mostly ineffective, even though the meters say they did a lot of stuff.
 
I think if her movement animation didn't override her attack animation then her baseline movement speed would be an actual advantage.

Also I don't her characterisation. It's so flat and the antithesis of a dryad. Enchantress in Dota nails it.
 
If they get rid of Booty Bay I will only have infernal shrines left to make me feel good about myself

Just had a 40 minute Battlefield game where we spent 15 minutes turning the whole game around and successfully defending twice with our core at 5% only to lose because a wave spawned on their core while my Monstrosity was on it and threw the timing of everything off just enough for us to have to do one more objective, and we couldn't hold off their Falstad long enough for the boss to take off their last 20%

I'd have been really sad if it wasn't so intense
 

nubbe

Member
You can have a quick turnaround on any map late game
60 seconds downtime at level 20 is a death sentence

people have a really hard time to back off and port back to base for 20 secs to restore health and mana
 

Venus Van Dam

Neo Member
If they get rid of Booty Bay I will only have infernal shrines left to make me feel good about myself

Just had a 40 minute Battlefield game where we spent 15 minutes turning the whole game around and successfully defending twice with our core at 5% only to lose because a wave spawned on their core while my Monstrosity was on it and threw the timing of everything off just enough for us to have to do one more objective, and we couldn't hold off their Falstad long enough for the boss to take off their last 20%

I'd have been really sad if it wasn't so intense

This kind of post makes me miss hots so much...can't wait to play again...

Also, I agree about the consensus on mines, however, I think that booty bay is much more problematic because of the snowball potential, specially in low level play. Without communication and/or good understanding of of the map is difficult to choose between doing lanes, getting mercs and coins or protect the deposit point. Also, there is nothing you can do when the objective is complete. At least with immortals and punishers you can focus fire and kill'em quickly, but when the coins are paid against your team, you can only shield the targets with tass (maybe abathur? never played with him + I'm still noob) or mule what remains standing.
 
I think Fan is an amazing player, but he's certainly a weird fit for Rob Boss personality wise. I feel like they'll just run right over him, lol, he seems pretty withdrawn both in his appearances on camera/THH/etc. and in what the other personalities have said about him.

Fan used to play with Barrel Boys, and he and McIntyre got along really well. The only reason he left was that he got offered a spot on a sponsored team (Vortex) and Barrel Boys had no sponsor at that time
 

TxdoHawk

Member
You can have a quick turnaround on any map late game
60 seconds downtime at level 20 is a death sentence

people have a really hard time to back off and port back to base for 20 secs to restore health and mana

Yeah, there is very little awareness on this. Things like chasing kills and hard pushes get exponentially more dangerous, but most players have one playstyle and won't adapt their risk-taking as the levels go by.
 

brian!

Member
ppl been chasing a lot in my games recently but my mmr has dipped a lot so it makes sense
had the classic wipe the enemy team but benny hill after a murky instead of taking objectives situation last night, cant hate tho
 

brian!

Member
i just beasted cattlepillar in qm tho, gimme the slot cog

I remember playing league w/ cattlepillar in these "plat v. silver" games, very high tier name imo
 

Alur

Member
Fan used to play with Barrel Boys, and he and McIntyre got along really well. The only reason he left was that he got offered a spot on a sponsored team (Vortex) and Barrel Boys had no sponsor at that time

Yeah I know he did. But I don't think playing with Mac & the backup band is quite like playing with Mac & 2 other dudes (plus Kenma) who think they are as good and/or better than Mac and have the egos to prove it.

I guess this is me still being skeptical that this will work in the long term, though +Fan and -Arthelon does make the angsty quotient go down.

Wasn't Cog Glau & the backup band?

Felt like the same thing happened with Cog as what happened with Tempo Storm with him. Once they started going backwards instead of forwards I think he gets hard to deal with.

Ironically, this time it was most definitely his fault by some decent sized portion. Like they discuss on THH, he has still never really expanded his hero pool. They were talking about him and Blackscorp and how their rep comes from playing two or three heroes really well, and used Mac as someone had taken steps to overcome the one trick pony melee assassin title.
 

Alur

Member
Yo. Wtf is going with Mac 's team? I've been downloading some of their vods from khaldor. Did arthelon quit?

He got picked up by C9. He's with the world champs now. They kicked Fan to get him.

People seem to think Fan will join Mac's team now. Kind of a side-grade to be honest. Not really sure how it does much of anything other than introduce a new mentality to each team.
 

nubbe

Member
yeah, every match I lost started with some guy yelling orders during the initial lane phase
then proceeded to tell everyone how much they suck since he ALWAY lose matches
uhu
 

TxdoHawk

Member
'tis the season...for people who haven't played in 6 months to log on for holiday break and drag their teammates down while their MMR takes a beating.
 
Yo. Wtf is going with Mac 's team? I've been downloading some of their vods from khaldor. Did arthelon quit?

They are playing with Fan for now, but obviously nothing is permanent until they sign with a sponsor

But Fan wants to be on a good team, and BRFC needs a top ranged/flex player and Fan is popular as well so I think they'll make it work :)
 
The hard roles of assassin, warrior, support and specialist that they had at Alpha are kind of worthless now. They've mostly been abandoned by Blizzard as their hero design has progressed, evolved or however you want to describe it. Tyrande and Tassadar were kind of edge cases as assassin/support hybrids, Sonya as well maybe as an Assassin/Warrior. But that list has sort of grown as more and more heroes have come out. So many Warriors started gaining wave clear, Rexxar is as much a specialist as he is a warrior, Artanis is another Warrior/Assassin hybrid, Lunara is an assassin but a specialist like Sylvanas has more burst damage than she does. Like this stuff makes Dotas classification of heroes by stats and not role make more sense in the long run. Most AGI heroes are carries or off-carries but two are supports, most INT heroes are supports but some are split-pushers and carries, most STR heroes are tanks but some are junglers

I'm all for Blizzard ditching the hard definition of class roles they had at Alpha so they make more inventive heroes but there's just a growing list of matches where I wouldn't pick the hero I did in blind pick because the team composition was horrible, you get hard countered by the enemy team comp. The immediate solution is stop playing Quick Match altogether and stick to Hero League but that's a different set of problems. They functionally ruined QM matchmaking for me ever since the initial roll out of MM changes. Team comps are all over the place, even when I pick the random role. The attitudes of so many of the players I'm getting stuck in games with make me want to stop playing altogether.

I fucking hate games with match making. You get stuck with randoms and there's functionally no consequence for being shitty, unlike servers which can have communities, standards, moderators to kick shitty people. Admins to ban them. I hope Overwatch has dedicated servers.
 

Alur

Member
After our massive loss fest, we've switched it up to Tyrande + Butcher and went 7-1 since.

Played a few games with the yung brian! too and we riperoni'd some unsuspecting noobs and a 5 man.

The baenara's master skin is also mine. Now to wait until she becomes actually viable so I can feel good about myself when I use her.

Also, for those getting shit on in QM and/or HL, /join aram and play some ARAM games. It's fun stuff and a good alternative to the norm.
 
yeah, every match I lost started with some guy yelling orders during the initial lane phase
then proceeded to tell everyone how much they suck since he ALWAY lose matches
uhu

My favorite was the guy who told us he'd lost 20 ranks during the holidays because everyone else sucked.
 

Alur

Member
I did not know that Scott Johnson had started a Heroes of the Storm podcast. It's called Core.

So now there's five decent podcasts I know of:

Competitive focused: Town Hall Heroes

Middle ground: Eye on the Storm

Casual focused: Into the Nexus, Core, Stormcast

Nice hearing him again after all these years. The Instance was the very first podcast I ever listened/subscribed to. Had like a 1 hour 15 minute trip to and from work and had worn out all the music I had on my iPod at the time.
 

Alur

Member
This ARAM channel thing has given a new lease on life to the day-to-day grind.

So nice to log in and do something besides roll the QM dice or risk losing rank 1 in HL because of how lopsided point gain is once you reach it.

Just sucks you get no EXP/quest completion from it.
 

Milly79

Member
This ARAM channel thing has given a new lease on life to the day-to-day grind.

So nice to log in and do something besides roll the QM dice or risk losing rank 1 in HL because of how lopsided point gain is once you reach it.

Just sucks you get no EXP/quest completion from it.

Yep, tons of fun and has gotten me into enjoying the game more lately. I'm hoping arena pans out well and fills this itch.
 
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