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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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jaundicejuice
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Fel Infusion, Sunfire Enchantment and Sun King's Fury feel pretty necessary, and are the only way I've been consistently hitting 100+K hero damage in matches. I prefer Sunfire Enchantment over Gravity Crush because I'm relying on weaving in and out of auto-attack range, using free Living Bomb harass and quick right-clicks to poke and chip away at people. I find with all of the disables, position changing, roots, dive and range that I have to play kind of passively. Harass, chip and bait. Wait for the right time and positioning to stun someone and unload a couple of spells. It feels kinda Greymane-y.
The build the pros use is the stun build, with the reduced cooldown stun at 4 and the extra damage at 7. You then use your Empower on the stun, and immediately drop a flamestrike and living bomb on them. It's more damage than Sunfire enchantment single target, and obviously a lot more damage on multiple targets.
Really mana starved though, even if you take the level 1 talent.
Yeah, im not into the talent but sunfire seems more bread and butter, though ive never tried gravity crush w/ roil. His q doing same dmg w/o d is like a revelation to me though, what a great change.
jaundicejuice
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The Gravity Crush build is better if your team has a lot of map control and functions like a team.
Yeah id say sunfire is the consistent multiple use type of thing and gravity crush is great for a catch type thing where you have more dmg sources than yourself. Setup -> kael e -> kill could be really legit.
I forget if tempo was using kael during their spider tomb game last night but itd fit their fog/pick strategy really well esp. with nether wind
Having tried both builds, I have to say I much, much prefer the stun build. It's harder to play than the AA build, but feels a hell of a lot better regardless of team co-ordination or not. Being able to literally spam your stun whilst chain bombing people is very powerful.
It also makes him play like a mage rather than an AAer, and feels a lot safer because of the massive CC he brings.
(Single target the stun build is much higher than the AA build, assuming the stun lands).
It also makes him play like a mage rather than an AAer, and feels a lot safer because of the massive CC he brings.
(Single target the stun build is much higher than the AA build, assuming the stun lands).
Convection is fairly bad TBH - it's very hard to complete in a normal game, and if you are empowering your stuns your flame strikes aren't hitting many people at once. The mana talent is okay but the number needed to complete the quest is WAY too high - it should be 20 tops, or even 15.
Personally I take Fel Infusion because it helps with laning and sustain, and 5% more damage on everything is quite handy for the stun build.
And yes, stuns for everyone everywhere after level 13!
Personally I take Fel Infusion because it helps with laning and sustain, and 5% more damage on everything is quite handy for the stun build.
And yes, stuns for everyone everywhere after level 13!
jaundicejuice
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Both of Kael's lvl 1 quest talents sort of feel like traps.
Convection prob wont ever work in a normal game as it is and mana addict can be good but i prob wouldnt reccomend unless you actually have mana issues
I feel like the mana addict quest is pretty feasible and kind of at a point where id want an additional power spike to be, like you can get it ~7 minutes in if you focus it but focusing it also fucks up your early game
I feel like the mana addict quest is pretty feasible and kind of at a point where id want an additional power spike to be, like you can get it ~7 minutes in if you focus it but focusing it also fucks up your early game
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth...ealing_by_the_numbers_a_singletarget_support/
Good post about what healers are putting out and shit
Good post about what healers are putting out and shit
jaundicejuice
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Shocking results.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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IIRC with the upgrade at 13 (?) She has the highest single target heal in game, outside of heroics.
Nielsen box ratings for eSports probably not the best barometer, even with their estimations based on households with it. Still nice to see it is up, but there were probably a lot more than that watching. What were the youtube numbers anyway?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
well the stream video has 37k views and the reupload 17k so somewhere in that ballpark.
damnit. fuck everything. lifes not worht living
Our vigil continues for we are the OnlyWatch.
Even if you were in, it's only til early May for open beta so you wouldn't be getting a lot. Just pissed your shit got reset, most likely.
Anyway, if anyone wants to play OW tonight I'll try to get on. I didn't see Brick and Syfadious' message til the servers got taken down last night.
Anyway, if anyone wants to play OW tonight I'll try to get on. I didn't see Brick and Syfadious' message til the servers got taken down last night.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Someone just tried convincing me BHB is a teamfight map. It was also quintessential to guard the turn in 24/7 no matter whether they can turn in and no we don't need to soak but to fight them a talent down because if we don't we're just letting them win. They didn't even have enough coins for a turn in.
Then the one time we should be guarding turn in because they have enough and we're down to 2 keeps with barely any health all of them are god knows where and I die alone 1v2. Scrublife, well that last bit was my fault.
And to be fair to the team we had an illidan that did the right thing in doing camps most of the time but also just fed the coins to the opponents at any chance.
Then the one time we should be guarding turn in because they have enough and we're down to 2 keeps with barely any health all of them are god knows where and I die alone 1v2. Scrublife, well that last bit was my fault.
And to be fair to the team we had an illidan that did the right thing in doing camps most of the time but also just fed the coins to the opponents at any chance.
Erho, you just don't pass on him.
jaundicejuice
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Weeeeeeeeeeeee, Overwatch beta! Poor Battleborne, you never stood a chance.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Pretty much.
Glau just said on stream he fucked up on Sky temple and that the 3rd game it was the draft.
They underestimated KT and shouldn't have picked Zag.
Wow my winrate with thrall is an abysmal 38%, talk about scrublife.
Glau just said on stream he fucked up on Sky temple and that the 3rd game it was the draft.
They underestimated KT and shouldn't have picked Zag.
Wow my winrate with thrall is an abysmal 38%, talk about scrublife.
Someone? You mean 90% of randos? It's the reason BHB is by far my least favorite map. Almost without fail the rest of my team will run to the turn in right after the first two chests and... never come back. I soak both the top lanes and then get yelled at for ignoring the objective as they all die.
I just wish I knew when to be picking KT. I'm getting better with the gravity lapse build (which already now seems to be overtaking the AA build at top levels of play), but it's an incredibly mechanical build that needs a lot of key presses and targeting fast.
At 16 it sort of becomes a tank killer build because block doesn't stop the extra damage from Sun Kings Fury and tanks can't retreat from KT because that spreads living bomb everywhere, but until then it's interesting figuring out how best to place him. He does very good work combined with any other CC of course.
Butcher going down to 7k next week
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4ev0sc/hots_logs_aram_hero_win_rates_lost_cavern/
ARAM win rates
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4ev0sc/hots_logs_aram_hero_win_rates_lost_cavern/
ARAM win rates
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I kinda like it since it's a map you can influence heavily solo just by proactively picking coins and playing conservatively. That match though was a legit shitfest.
I'm still flabbergasted he's great again, is he? Some dudes wanted to ban him in HL.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Reminds me of when they introduced Infernal Shrines and people, myself included, were raging about OP Punishers. Blizzard always knew the strat, they still nerfed it due to public outcry and now it's a weak ass objective for a major part of the game.
Who doesn't like ToD again? Anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxLL2uxGdk quite funny.
Who doesn't like ToD again? Anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxLL2uxGdk quite funny.
I love Towers. Have had some insane comebacks and silliness on that map. Both teams down to 2 health fighting over the only altar, then our Chen barrels them all away and we cap it, good stuff.
And I'm finally in the Overwatch beta this weekend! First time to see it in action, which is good since I'm still not sure if it's something I would like or not.
And I'm finally in the Overwatch beta this weekend! First time to see it in action, which is good since I'm still not sure if it's something I would like or not.
Fixed2BeBroken
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Finally read the patch notes.....I was right about Mighty Gust.
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