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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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ManaByte
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jjasper said:
Someone at HTF brought up a good point that if the game consoles didn't play HD movies there wouldn't be certain people so passionate about pushing a certain format and it would be about what MOVIES are available to watch in HD and not what game console is able to play them.
I personally HATE using my game consoles to watch movies. I had a drive on a PS2 die from watching DVDs on it so much, which is why I prefer standalone players. Once Blu-Ray standalones get down to $250 I'll buy one and use that exclusively to watch movies on as I want to save the PS3 for GAMES.
ManaByte said:
Well if you go over to the gaming side and you can see it and there are other place you can see it too.
I don't know why put I have always used my video game consoles for movies (in fact the stand alone is the first stand alone player I have ever purchased) I bought the PS2 in large part because of the DVD player. and I would not have bought never gotten a PS3 if not for blu ray movies.
...and more blu-ray good news
Pirates 3 on blu-ray on December 4
http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-newsview.php?id=638
Pirates 3 on blu-ray on December 4
http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-newsview.php?id=638
Petrarca said:
Anywho. Got my 360 HD-DVD drive and King Kong, Children of Men, Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, Clerks II, The Untouchables discs in yesterday. Is it a dying format? Maybe, but I'll be damned if those titles didn't look gorgeous in 720p on my set. Have no regrets about the purchase, even if the oft noisy 360 doesn't make the best player in the world. It's great to finally not have to dump to a separate menu when you want to do anything and how chapter selection and setup can now all be done in-movie. Really does feel like a "next gen" kind of format.
Ignatz Mouse
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Let me reword my last post:
The tone here as gotten nasty again, as it does whenever there's a bit of bad news for HD DVD and fanboys on both sides amp up for a skirmish.
Didn't mean to lay that at the feet of any group generalized by their format choice.
The tone here as gotten nasty again, as it does whenever there's a bit of bad news for HD DVD and fanboys on both sides amp up for a skirmish.
Didn't mean to lay that at the feet of any group generalized by their format choice.
ManaByte
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AgentOtaku
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jjasper said:
one can certainly hope....yeah Director's Cut of KoH is amazing...
ManaByte said:
Paranoid much? Was asking a simple question, i don't own an HD-DVD player and i've only watched about a dozen movies on HD-DVD so i had no clue what you could do with Java outside of IME and U control, thought maybe there was something even more interesting out there that it could be used for since those 2 features really didn't do much for me.
The Main Event
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http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-26-2007/0004632974&EDATE=
Not a fan, but pretty neat looking :lol
Not a fan, but pretty neat looking :lol
The Main Event said:http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-26-2007/0004632974&EDATE=
Not a fan, but pretty neat looking :lol
And the ridiculous pricing on Star Trek seasons continue. I still think it was ridiculous when TNG was $125 per season. $200 is even worse. :/
DarkJediKnight
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http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-54723.aspx#Comments
Woolworths in the UK drops HD DVD. I have no idea how important this is in Europe.
PS: That Star Trek box looks cool!
Woolworths in the UK drops HD DVD. I have no idea how important this is in Europe.
PS: That Star Trek box looks cool!
Alcibiades
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it's only season 1 I think (that said, the season sets were originally more than $100 dollar each, and before that it was like $20 for 2 episodes one by one)... Paramount overpricing Trek is nothing new...ManaByte said:
Ignatz Mouse
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Can't wait to hear about how Sony bought off Woolworth's, too.
Could this and the Target decision *just possibly* be due to the 6 months of Blu-Ray killing HD-DVD in sales?
Question to the more ardent supporters: what will have to happen for you to call the Format War effectively over?
Is it:
Another major retailer dropping or limiting support
Universal going neutral
Blu-Ray Sales advantage continues through date XX
Blu-Ray Sales advantage increading to X:Y ratio
Toshiba ceasing making players
Or something else?
I say it's effectively over, and we're waiting for the delayed reaction of Universal to confirm it.
Could this and the Target decision *just possibly* be due to the 6 months of Blu-Ray killing HD-DVD in sales?
Question to the more ardent supporters: what will have to happen for you to call the Format War effectively over?
Is it:
Another major retailer dropping or limiting support
Universal going neutral
Blu-Ray Sales advantage continues through date XX
Blu-Ray Sales advantage increading to X:Y ratio
Toshiba ceasing making players
Or something else?
I say it's effectively over, and we're waiting for the delayed reaction of Universal to confirm it.
Ignatz Mouse
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Becuase it's a takeover watch thread?
Crayon Shinchan
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C4Lukins said:
Stop making, or becomes available on BD?
There's a pretty big difference between the two. But the statement shows how ingrained into HD-DVD you are more than anything else.
Ignatz Mouse said:
And the takeover has happened. I know a lot of you want to see HDDVD dead and buried, but as long as it gets support, that is not going to happen. It will be around for at least another 6 months, and until that marketshare drops to ridiculously low levels, it is not going to just disappear for your convenience. If it loses support from a major studio that it currently has, then the writing is on the wall, and the death should be swift. This is a huge potential market though, and they are not going to throw in the towel when they currently have over 30% of that potentially huge market. Even for a company like Universal, the worst case scenario is that they get to double dip on two formats if HDDVD fails. What a horrible position to be in.
Ignatz Mouse
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So your answer is the loss of a major studio for HD-DVD. Got it.
I ask becuase for a long time, a common stance was "it's too early to tell" who would win out in the long run, and I was wondering of those people who still felt that way, what would be their personal limit. I was willing to call it on the combo of continued sales ratio in the face of price-drops on the Toshiba players + the BB announcement (fairly recently). I'm pro-Blu, though, I realize people more pro HD-DVD are going to have a more skeptical set of criteria.
No need to take this personally.
I ask becuase for a long time, a common stance was "it's too early to tell" who would win out in the long run, and I was wondering of those people who still felt that way, what would be their personal limit. I was willing to call it on the combo of continued sales ratio in the face of price-drops on the Toshiba players + the BB announcement (fairly recently). I'm pro-Blu, though, I realize people more pro HD-DVD are going to have a more skeptical set of criteria.
No need to take this personally.
Crayon Shinchan said:
I am not pretending like I am not routing for HD-DVD to survive. If a title is released on both formats, I will go for HD-DVD everytime unless the BR version is vastly superior. It would still be nice to have a discussion without the whole fanboyish rhetoric. There is a big difference between me preferring HD-DVD and people attacking the opposing format every chance they get. I am just as happy when a big BR exclusive title is announced because I want to see these movies in HD, and I am not cheering for BR to fail. If HD-DVD goes under tomorrow, it will not be a big deal to me. I want to see it succeed, but I have very little emotional investment in this "war." I will still have my HD-DVD player for the movies that I have bought, and I will still have my PS3 for future BR titles. I think this war is forcing both formats to be innovative and competitive which will benefit everyone in the long run, but is a pain in the ass for early adopters.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
C4Lukins said:
Well said C4. Hey Ignatz maybe if you close your eyes click you're heels twice and repeat "There's nothing like blu ray... There's nothing like blu ray" that might expedite things a little. Let me know how that works out for you. That goes for crayon and pet too.
Ignatz Mouse
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Hmmm....
I want a ful selection on movies, I want to only have to have one player to play them, and I want to seemingly-inevitable conclusion to this format war that's preventing that outcome to get here as soon as it can... and *I'm* the fanboy?
Hey Days, weren't you banned for trolling Sony threads in the Gaming forum?
And C4, I'm asking a question, not insulting anybody's choice. Read all 7000+ posts of this thread, I've never called anybody dumb for buying an HD-DVD player, or said it was a bad idea, or any of that crap. I *have* said I wish HD-DVD would hurry up and die, or (what I really want) for Universal to go neutral and WB to hurry up with their BD offerings. I don't see a big problem with that.
I want a ful selection on movies, I want to only have to have one player to play them, and I want to seemingly-inevitable conclusion to this format war that's preventing that outcome to get here as soon as it can... and *I'm* the fanboy?
Hey Days, weren't you banned for trolling Sony threads in the Gaming forum?
And C4, I'm asking a question, not insulting anybody's choice. Read all 7000+ posts of this thread, I've never called anybody dumb for buying an HD-DVD player, or said it was a bad idea, or any of that crap. I *have* said I wish HD-DVD would hurry up and die, or (what I really want) for Universal to go neutral and WB to hurry up with their BD offerings. I don't see a big problem with that.
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