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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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Petrarca

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djkimothy said:
Rumour on the streets this weeks numbers are 74:26.

But no one has linked it so I can't confirm it. :/

Looks real...

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom072907/index.php

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1. Premonition Blu-ray 100.00
2. Casino Royale Blu-ray 60.41
3. Planet Earth Blu-ray 56.41
4. POTCDMC Blu-ray 48.55
5. TFE Blu-ray 45.24
6. Ghost Rider Blu-ray 42.94
7. Planet Earth HD-DVD 39.62
8. POTCCOBP Blu-ray 39.39
9. Apocalypto Blu-ray 39.87
10. Resident Evil Blu-ray 31.79
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AWESOME!!!! GO BLU!
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Crayon Shinchan said:
How did this weeks releases stack up?

Weren't they heavily in HD-DVDs favour?
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Do you mean the week this data is for, or this week right now (which we'll get data on next week)?

Thsi ratio is based on a BD-heavy week.
 
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el Diablo

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I'm all laughing and gawking at lopsided pie charts but last week running through the 22nd HD-DVD didn't release anything :lol. Now if the charts look like that for this week that's a whole nother matter and people can point and laugh all they want and actually feel good about it.
 
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JB1981

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Oh my god, end this ****ing war already. Can't wait til the holidays so this shit can finally be ****ing dead and done and we can all move on.
 
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JB1981

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Just how big a check did MS write Universal to keep them from releasing on blu-ray? Must've been preeeettty substantial.

Fortunately, the market is starting to get smart and retailers are pushing them in the right direction. This shit will be over by Jan 2008.

Btw, Premonition? I don't even know what movie that is! :lol
 
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djkimothy

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JB1981 said:
Just how big a check did MS write Universal to keep them from releasing on blu-ray? Must've been preeeettty substantial.

Fortunately, the market is starting to get smart and the retailers are pushing them in the right direction. This shit will be over by Jan 2008.

Btw, Premonition? I don't even know what movie that is! :lol
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Well, they paid Rockstar 50 million per downloadable episode. You can extrapolate it from that. :/
 
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DarkJediKnight

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The goal of Microsoft in this war is to stall the adoption of either formats, and keep them fighting - creating a rift between the consumers and the product, so that they have time to work on their super secret, mega download program where we can all enjoy 6mbps 720p VC-1 movies.
 
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CoG

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DarkJediKnight said:
The goal of Microsoft in this war is to stall the adoption of either formats, and keep them fighting - creating a rift between the consumers and the product, so that they have time to work on their super secret, mega download program where we can all enjoy 6mbps 720p VC-1 movies.
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Nothing beats unwrapping a digital download on Christmas morning ;)
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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djkimothy said:
Because if Bill Hunt is being payed off as Mana says, then Universal could have easily been payed off.
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So are you denying that Bill Hunt is writing marketing content for the Blu-Ray group's promotional site?
 
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captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
ManaByte said:
So are you denying that Bill Hunt is writing marketing content for the Blu-Ray group's promotional site?
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He gave them a review of ghost rider... holy shit, end of the world.
I thought you didnt read his stuff anyway so how do you know what he is and isnt doing?

And i like how you and main event quote hunt on some HD DVD release, but he is all blooray all the time.
 
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djkimothy

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ManaByte said:
So are you denying that Bill Hunt is writing marketing content for the Blu-Ray group's promotional site?
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I'm saying if YOU think he's being paid off, then the argument can be made that Universal is being paid off for exclusivity.

So what is your opinion on Harry Knowels. He must be swimming in MS's money?
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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djkimothy said:
I'm saying if YOU think he's being paid off, then the argument can be made that Universal is being paid off for exclusivity.
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There's proof that Bill Hunt is a contributer to a Blu-Ray marketing site run by the Blu-Ray studios. There isn't proof that Universal is being paid off. You don't see Peter Bracke or Kenneth Brown of HD Digest selling out and writing marketing content for a format specific marketing site.

djkimothy said:
So what is your opinion on Harry Knowels. He must be swimming in MS's money?
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Since when is AICN a reputable home theater site and since when is Harry an expert on home theater formats? Hell, the DVD stuff is usually put in Coaxial which is mainly run by Herc.
 
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captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
ManaByte said:
There's proof that Bill Hunt is a contributer to a Blu-Ray marketing site run by the Blu-Ray studios. There isn't proof that Universal is being paid off. You don't see Peter Bracke or Kenneth Brown of HD Digest selling out and writing marketing content for a format specific marketing site.
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What besides a lame Ghost Rider review has Bill Hunt contributed to blu-ray sponsered sites? Proof or drop it, seriously.
 
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djkimothy

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ManaByte said:
There's proof that Bill Hunt is a contributer to a Blu-Ray marketing site run by the Blu-Ray studios. There isn't proof that Universal is being paid off. You don't see Peter Bracke or Kenneth Brown of HD Digest selling out and writing marketing content for a format specific marketing site.



Since when is AICN a reputable home theater site and since when is Harry an expert on home theater formats? Hell, the DVD stuff is usually put in Coaxial which is mainly run by Herc.
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Is there proof that Bill Hunt is under BDA's payroll? Can you provide that hard evidence?

That's not the point (re: Knowels). Why aren't you calling him out? His article just reeks of kickbacks while you trumpet Bill Hunt's viewpoint. Except his is worse than Bill's supposed biased opinions.
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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djkimothy said:
Is there proof that Bill Hunt is under BDA's payroll? Can you provide that hard evidence?

That's not the point (re: Knowels). Why aren't you calling him out? His article just reeks of kickbacks while you trumpet Bill Hunt's viewpoint. Except his is worse than Bill's supposed biased opinions.
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I thought it was widely known, and proof, that AICN took money from everyone and anyone?

http://www.filmthreat.com/index.php?section=features&Id=186

Saying Harry took kickbacks is like saying Harry is fat. SHOCK OF THE CENTURY.
 
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SUPREME1

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ManaByte said:
From his review:
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Touche'.



On a seperate note, when you look a the pie charts re sales..

Do we credit basically all of HD DVD sales to Universal.. and of so, most if not all the profits too?

If so, do we divide the blu ray piece of the pie into 7 or so pieces because of all the studios involved and likewise with their profits.

Wouldn't that mean that Universal is making a killing as a studio while the others are having to split their bigger piece into much smaller individual slices?

Isn't this enough motive for Universal to cintinue to go it alone.. and milk it to the bloody end?


Maybe this explains the money issue.. somewhat.

Just a thought.


I can't wait for CHRISTmas so I can add a PS3 to my set-up..

360 w/ HD DVD + PS3 + Pioneer Elite Receiver + Pioneer Elite Pro-FHD1 =
COMPLETE F*CKING PWNAGE!
 
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captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
ImperialConquest said:
Ouch.

Point Manabyte.
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How is that a point, technically Hunt would be a contributor if he contributed his ghost rider review.
Some editor probably slapped that on there. As far as i know Hunt hasnt contributed anything else to hollywoodinhidef.com

He contributed a review for a blu-ray exclusive movie, and somehow that puts him in BDA's pocket? Yea, ok.
But mana says he doesnt read bill hunts website or anything from him so i dont know how he would know about such things anyway.
 
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Crayon Shinchan

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DarkJediKnight said:
Universal is releasing movies like crazy and the VAST MAJORITY of them are getting CREAMED by Blu-ray movies. So where does this money come from?
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I don't think Universal are getting paid off.

It's simply their strategy; they're punching above their weight in the HD-DVD market. A lot of the cost in developing for HD-DVD is transferable to BD; they simply use the same VC-1 encodes and the same IME stuff as they've been using, when BD gets their 1.1 spec widespread.

They 'win' in the HD-DVD market, and when that collapses soundly, they skip over to BD (go neutral), and get welcomed as the guys that brought an end to the format war.

Farkin jerks. Ken Graffeo must die!
 
The Main Event

The Main Event

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captive said:
And i like how you and main event quote hunt on some HD DVD release, but he is all blooray all the time.
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Because they're straight news/rumors without of his babbling. If he'd be always like that, the site would be a lot more readable. Instead, he's still trying too hard to be the big messiah of the HD format war, with writing and analysis skills that I would only expect from the average AVS forum member.

As for Universal being HD DVD exclusive, don't you think that Ken Graffeo being executive vice president of HD strategic marketing for Universal and being co-president of the HD DVD Promotional Group have something to do with it? :lol
 
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SUPREME1

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Crayon Shinchan said:
I don't think Universal are getting paid off.

It's simply their strategy; they're punching above their weight in the HD-DVD market. A lot of the cost in developing for HD-DVD is transferable to BD; they simply use the same VC-1 encodes and the same IME stuff as they've been using, when BD gets their 1.1 spec widespread.

They 'win' in the HD-DVD market, and when that collapses soundly, they skip over to BD (go neutral), and get welcomed as the guys that brought an end to the format war.

Farkin jerks. Ken Graffeo must die!
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And make a killing in the meantime as I stated above..

Nice thinking UNIVERSAL.



Though you'd better hold on for a little while longer.. So I can buy up any and all good releases and have a small but nice library.

Lol.
 
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Chemo

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The Main Event said:
How do you know?
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Because HD DVD still exists.

(I guess I'd better say I'm joking, because most people have their sarcasm meters turned off here.)

Microsoft has a vested interest in HD DVD's success, as it brings with it Blu-ray's failure. It's ridiculous to assume that MS isn't pumping some money into the format's future.
 
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SUPREME1

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Chemo said:
Because HD DVD still exists.

(I guess I'd better say I'm joking, because most people have their sarcasm meters turned off here.)

Microsoft has a vested interest in HD DVD's success, as it brings with it Blu-ray's failure. It's ridiculous to assume that MS isn't pumping some money into the format's future.
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That goes without saying..

Likewise w/ every studio that has an interest in Bluray succeeding.



See, I can be nice.
 
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mollipen

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djkimothy said:
Is there proof that Bill Hunt is under BDA's payroll? Can you provide that hard evidence?
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Mana can prove Bill is getting money from BDA just like he proved that Universal doesn't release movies on UMD.
 
The Main Event

The Main Event

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Ponn

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ManaByte said:
Since when is AICN a reputable home theater site and since when is Harry an expert on home theater formats? Hell, the DVD stuff is usually put in Coaxial which is mainly run by Herc.
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Exactly. The readers of thedigitalbits are generally more educated on home theater equipment and electronics. At least informed enough to make up their own minds. The people that read AICN on the other hand are more mixed and when Harry says something along the lines of Blu-ray only having 50 or so Blu-ray discs compared to HD-DVD having 300 or so there are readers who will believe him and not know the difference. Thats a much worse situation then the latter. Especially when i'm willing to bet AICN has higher traffic then the bits. Add in the obvious bias and NO blu-ray coverage compared to bits still covering both formats and there you go.
 
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DarkJediKnight

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HD DVD record Holder: Planet Earth #4
Blu-ray record Holder: 300 #2

I think #2 is about as good as it can get. It will be be years before a HD title beats its SD counterpart.
 
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