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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Ignatz Mouse
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People predicted a Laserdic-or-worse fate for DVD too. I mean, how far could a format go that you could not record with? Plus I have a huge library I don't want to re-buy, plus they scratch! Rental places will never carry them. VHS Forever!
xS1TH L0RDx
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Mustaphadamus said:
Yes. Why: because blu-ray looks like shit on my tv compared to hd-dvd. I said **** it though and decided to start buying blu-rays because i'll be getting a 1080p tv soon enough. I have 4 blu-rays and 33 hd-dvds. And i'll probably just watch my "hd dvd stock piles", as I do right now.
xS1TH L0RDx said:
:lol Whatever.
Anyways, has anyone seen the Host? I have it on the way from Zip and it got decent transfer ratings.
Here's something interesting though...
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/host.html
Interesting that for once, Blu-ray gets the better audio. Odd the HDDVD version didn't get TRueHD.
Initially, it was only the BBC version that was available on BD/HDDVD. Discovery Channel's version with Sigourney narrating just became available a few weeks ago. I believe (I hope!) the general consensus is that the BBC version is better, because it has David Attenborough narrating and it's also unedited, unlike the DC version. I'm pretty sure everyone around here got the BBC version, in any case.YYZ said:
There's like 2 hrs of additional behind-the-scenes footage on the DVD version of the BBC release, plus 2.5 hrs of a companion piece - Planet Earth: The Future.
Sure, just like any movie has a chance of getting a new version on DVD after the original DVD release. They'll have to wait for the spec around interactivity to be finalized and available in most BD players though.
Ignatz Mouse
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Dark, I recall your problem was that your set scaled 1080i to 720p badly. Now that the PS3 supports 720p for Blu-Ray output, have you tried adjusting your settings?
Have you updated your PS3 firmware, for that matter?
Have you updated your PS3 firmware, for that matter?
Forsete
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xS1TH L0RDx
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methane47 said:
maybe you can help? i'm pulling this post from the neogaf pick up thread on the gaming discussion board. hopefully this info helps:
i have the 360 hd-dvd drive and i'm impressed with all of my hd-dvds, but the blu-ray output on the ps3 comes out looking extremely grainy. i think it's probably my tv though because the games themselves look absolutely fantastic, especially motorstorm and sigma. my tv is 720p native and i'm using hdmi as a connection, if you can offer any help as to why my blu rays (i have the prestige in addition to closer) look grainy i would appreciate it. i know that blu ray is just as good as hd-dvd in terms of picture quality, and it's very frustrating for someone who loves movies such as myself to be limited to just hd-dvd's selection. there's a ton of blu-rays that i want, but i can't bring myself to buy them...i made an exception for closer though because i found it for 15 bucks new.
if you're willing to help, the tv i have is a samsung 32" flat panel lcd, model number LNS3251DX, and my ps3 is set to output in 720p. even normal dvds look better on my 360 than my ps3, despite the 1.8 firmware that allows dvd upscaling.
it should be noted that my hdmi cable was only 30 bucks, maybe it's shit quality?
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And also, i should mention that i'm using a vga connection for my 360.
any help is appreciated.
Ignatz Mouse
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Sith:
It's not your cable, that's digital. You'd see drops if it were bad, not grain.
Try going into your PS3 setting and setting the resolution of the system at 720p. In the old days (pre firmware update) that would have forced your Blu-Rays down to 480p (yuck), but they fixed that and the PS3 will now do the scaling to 720p itself, and it does a good job.
The end result should look just like your 360 output.
It's not your cable, that's digital. You'd see drops if it were bad, not grain.
Try going into your PS3 setting and setting the resolution of the system at 720p. In the old days (pre firmware update) that would have forced your Blu-Rays down to 480p (yuck), but they fixed that and the PS3 will now do the scaling to 720p itself, and it does a good job.
The end result should look just like your 360 output.
DarkJediKnight
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Any word if Spiderman 3 will be re-cut for DVD/Blu-ray?
God that movie sucked! It had awesome moments and a ton of useless campy crap.
God that movie sucked! It had awesome moments and a ton of useless campy crap.
The Main Event
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djkimothy said:
I was 100% sure the HD DVD version was getting a True HD soundtrack. But I pre-ordered my copy online a while ago and I'll get it soon so there's no turning back...the DTS-HD track still seem to sound great though.
What's more disappointing is that both versions are missing a TONS of features available from the 2 disc DVD version.
As for Paramount, I don't know what's their decision lately to cut a bunch of things in their HD version of their movies since some of their recent releases like Flags of our Fathers and Dreamgirls are both 2 discs. They could just do again a 30/15 2 discs HD DVD set to match the capacity of the BD-50 (similar to what Warner is doing with the Smallville Season 6 set).
xS1TH L0RDx
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thanks for the response!
i'm not sure if put it in the post, but my ps3 is set to 720p output.
maybe the few blu-rays i have are just bad transfers? (the prestige, closer, taladega nights, memento) i ought to get around to buying the pirates movies on blu-ray, as i heard those were "benchmark titles", and my girlfriend wants them anyway, so it shouldn't be too hard to convince her it's not a dumb purchase.
Unfortunately I can't return my television as it's out of manufacturer's warranty now and my dumb ass didn't buy the extended store warranty.
i'm not sure if put it in the post, but my ps3 is set to 720p output.
maybe the few blu-rays i have are just bad transfers? (the prestige, closer, taladega nights, memento) i ought to get around to buying the pirates movies on blu-ray, as i heard those were "benchmark titles", and my girlfriend wants them anyway, so it shouldn't be too hard to convince her it's not a dumb purchase.
Unfortunately I can't return my television as it's out of manufacturer's warranty now and my dumb ass didn't buy the extended store warranty.
xS1TH L0RDx
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DarkJediKnight said:
I was really let down with spider man 3, especially since i thought 1 and 2 were great. I had read a ton of bad reviews but went to go see it anyway and about 20 minutes into the movie i was thinking "this isn't so bad" but it soon went downhill. It's really saying something that in a film that had venom in it, sandman was the most compelling character.
OokieSpookie
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captive said:
Agreed
The Main Event
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captive said:
I thought the emo-scene was one of the best part of the movie.
Ignatz Mouse
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I don't know about the others, but The Prestige should look fantastic.
Are you up to date on PS3 firware upgrades? They're manadatory for logging into PSN, so if you can do that, you are.
Are you up to date on PS3 firware upgrades? They're manadatory for logging into PSN, so if you can do that, you are.
xS1TH L0RDx
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Ignatz Mouse said:
yes i am.
The Main Event
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xS1TH L0RDx said:
What TV model do you have? I think it has to do with the calibration of your PS3 input.
I find HD DVD movies to have a softer look to them, while BD movies to be edgier (depending on the movies of course).
As for the grain, it's part of the transfer. I have The Descent which looks great, but it's definitely an extremely grainy film.
Spiderman 3 was abysmal, which was very disapointing considering how good the first two are.
You could tell they wanted to do a Harry storyline and just didnt have the guts to have a movie so similar to the first storywise... but that was the natrual way that the triology was headed, heck they set up Harry/Pete for two movies then threw it away with a butler "I saw the whole thing, your dad killed himself". Then they just threw two undeveloped badguys into the movie and had the superpals team up to take them on. Ugg.
Then they tried to get way too cute.
I remember the scene where he looked out the window all emo like and I whispered in my dates ear "Conor Oberst is spiderman?" and we both laughed for about 10 minutes. It was better than anything in the movie.
You could tell they wanted to do a Harry storyline and just didnt have the guts to have a movie so similar to the first storywise... but that was the natrual way that the triology was headed, heck they set up Harry/Pete for two movies then threw it away with a butler "I saw the whole thing, your dad killed himself". Then they just threw two undeveloped badguys into the movie and had the superpals team up to take them on. Ugg.
Then they tried to get way too cute.
I remember the scene where he looked out the window all emo like and I whispered in my dates ear "Conor Oberst is spiderman?" and we both laughed for about 10 minutes. It was better than anything in the movie.
DarkJediKnight
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StoOgE said:
There's the moneyshot. I agree completely.
Cheesemeister
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Sage00 said:
Hi-def mosaics, huh?
Superman00
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Pellham said:
Your kidding right? #1 Verizon doesn't service the whole country and it take a while just to service their own territory. #2 Physical format will exist for at least a decade more. BD has only been out for a year, what do you expect? Of course the prices are high now.
Ignatz Mouse
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Pellham said:
I haven;t been following HDTV prices, but I would expect Blu-Ray prices to be sub $150 by Christmas season 2008. Long before fiber is ubiquitous.
Considering both BRD and HDDVD have more players than LaserDisc ever did and they are both right at 12 months (a bit more). Which is why I have long maintained that even if BRD winds up "winning" HDDVD may get some level of support (big releases) for years to come from some studios.
Ignatz Mouse
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StoOgE said:
I'm sure this is true, which is why I don't get people saying "your discs/players will be useless."
I don't want to have two around, but I can't argue that if you do, you'll get some use of both.
sonycowboy
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StoOgE said:
Laserdisc got continued support in part because it was far superior to VHS for picture and sound quality. The AV enthusiasts who wanted the absolute best quality would buy it over the VHS versions where they could.
That would not be true for the HD-DVD format.
IMO, assuming either side wins, it's exactly analogous to VHS vs Beta in terms of what will happen to the "loser". Complete loss of support and relagated to the annals of failed formats.
It's certainly true that any Beta movies you bought would continue to work, but in terms of thinking that studios would continue to support << 5% of the market in 2 years seems a bit of a stretch. That's the price that is commonly paid by early adopters of any technology.
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