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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
Days like these... said:
Chemo would like to place the blame for the slow adoption rate squarely on HD DVD
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That's not what he said. He said the format war wasn't helping matters. Do you understand the difference?
 
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nofi

Member
Eggo said:
Ouch, 75% of my HD purchases have been < $15 thanks to Frys.

Does anyone know if Frys is selling 300 for cheap today? Or any other retailers that have a deal on it?
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Wow. I was happy paying £25 for Pirates on Blu-Ray, which is what, $50? You guys get stuff soooo cheap.
 
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captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Days like these... said:
Find a Fry's their prices are usually just as cheap as amazon. I think I'll pick up (blind buy) Hot Fuzz today I've heard good things about that movie. I didnt care for 300 still might pick it up if Fry's has it for cheap.
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Frys is only in some southern states like Texas and the West coast. I dont think djkimothy has them available where he lives.
 
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Petrarca

Banned
thaivo said:
Wow... Then again, most BD supporters have been saying they don't need the extra features, so I expect most to say that they don't care (even though such a thing has gotta get under your skin):lol .
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I really don't care about extra features. the only time I remember watching extra feature was to watch Casino Royale's music soundtrack. I don't care about PiP, or whatver. When I want to watch a movie, I watch a movie so just give me top-notch picture quality and the lowest possible price... *cough*StarTrekHD-DVDfor200bucks*cough*

back on 300. I'm gonna pick up 2 copies of 300 on blu-ray, one for my stingy friend who has a PS3 but hasn't bought many blu-ray movies. But he likes to party, so in turn he's gonna buy me a few rounds
 
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Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
Petrarca said:
I really don't care about extra features. the only time I remember watching extra feature was to watch Casino Royale's music soundtrack. I don't care about PiP, or whatver. When I watch a movie, I want to watch a movie so just give me top-notch picture quality and the lowest possible price...
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I certainly relate to this. I'd be happier if instead of annoying (and more expensive) combo releases, studios would opt to give me a cheaper bare-bones version alongside one with the extras.

And on the price issue, it drives me nuts that no one here ever puts HD titles on sale, if they get them at all. I'm either stuck paying $28+ for something, or buying it online, where prices aren't even all that much better, and waiting two weeks to get it.
 
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thaivo

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Petrarca said:
I really don't care about extra features. the only time I remember watching extra feature was to watch Casino Royale's music soundtrack. I don't care about PiP, or whatver. When I want to watch a movie, I watch a movie so just give me top-notch picture quality and the lowest possible price... *cough*StarTrekHD-DVDfor200bucks*cough*

back on 300. I'm gonna pick up 2 copies of 300 on blu-ray, one for my stingy friend who has a PS3 but hasn't bought many blu-ray movies. But he likes to party, so in turn he's gonna buy me a few rounds
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I agree with most that on the large majority of movies, extra features are not what sells a disc to me. I mean I rarely have enough time to watch the movies that I buy and rent, much less watch hours and hours of special features.

However, that is not saying that for those few movies, those movies that I love (i.e., Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, the LOTR Trilogy, etc.) I would not prefer to have special features... as for those movies (not all movies) it does bother me that I purchased a version that didn't have all the extra's.
 
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kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
Days like these... said:
He implied it with the tone of his post. Are you not familiar with his posts?
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Sure, I'm familiar with his posts - he wants HDDVD dead and buried, before it was even conceived. But that doesn't change the fact that all he is explicitly saying is that the format war doesn't help adoption rate and there's nothing untrue about that. You can't call the statement FUD simply because you know he is heavily biased towards BD and therefore assume he must be implying something more.
 
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djkimothy

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Hotarubi said:
And on the price issue, it drives me nuts that no one here ever puts HD titles on sale, if they get them at all. I'm either stuck paying $28+ for something, or buying it online, where prices aren't even all that much better, and waiting two weeks to get it.
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That's nuts cause the Best Buy I go to always have sales. They just had a $20/blu-ray title sale.
 
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Chemo

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Days like these... said:
He implied it with the tone of his post. Are you not familiar with his posts?
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No I didn't. But it's kind of adorable that you hang on my every word to the extent that you think you are that familiar with my tone.

And I have nothing against HD DVD as a format, I just have everything against it as a roadblock. I have stated multiple times that I did not purchase my PS3 until, based on my observation, I was sure that Blu-ray would come out on top as the winner... I would have waited until 2008 for MGS4 otherwise. It seemed pretty obvious to me that Blu-ray was the winning side in March, and nothing has happened since then to disprove that in any way, shape or form -- quite the opposite, actually, it has surged while HD DVD has floundered. I am in this as a believer in a one-format future, not as a Sony-hugging fanboy. There are plenty of Sony fanboys you can target, and feel free... when you attack me, you are attacking someone who wants consumer confusion and split markets to go away.
 
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Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
Chemo said:
No I didn't. But it's kind of adorable that you hang on my every word to the extent that you think you are that familiar with my tone.

And I have nothing against HD DVD as a format, I just have everything against it as a roadblock. I have stated multiple times that I did not purchase my PS3 until, based on my observation, I was sure that Blu-ray would come out on top as the winner... I would have waited until 2008 for MGS4 otherwise. It seemed pretty obvious to me that Blu-ray was the winning side in March, and nothing has happened since then to disprove that in any way, shape or form -- quite the opposite, actually, it has surged while HD DVD has floundered. I am in this as a believer in a one-format future, not as a Sony-hugging fanboy. There are plenty of Sony fanboys you can target, and feel free... when you attack me, you are attacking someone who wants consumer confusion and split markets to go away.
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When have I attacked you? Do you have some kind of persecution complex? It bears repeating that you are way too emotionally invested in this. Secondly if you're so sure blu-ray will win why do you get so worked up? Sooner or later it'll happen (maybe).
 
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AgentOtaku

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the 300 double dipping wouldn't bother me if they say, realized that they released a sort "gimped" product early on and offer an exchange program ala 5th Element...

....doubt it will happen though =/
 
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Petrarca

Banned
:lol

this thread at AVS HD-DVD forum is a real winner

HD-DVD fans cried Nielsen data is invalid, eventhough there's a pdf white paper clearly stated that Nielsen data included most of major retailers

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=883304

Originally Posted by CriticalListener
I can't provide a link, but I do have a document directly from Nielsen that tells me exactly what's in the data for high-def sales.

First let me tell you the big names NOT included:
Amazon, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Circuit City

IMO, what's missing is about 95% of all high def sales.

Here are the retailer that are included (they also include a ton of Food, Convenience and Drug stores who might sell a decent % of SD-DVD's, but I would venture 0% of high-def discs):
KMart; Target;Pamida;Alco;Shipco;Rose's Stores;BJ's; Sears

The more I look at this list, the more I think the Amazon data is looking better and better.
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Quote from Nielsen
Nielsen Video Scan (these numbers, while they include traditional on-line retailers such as Amazon, also include Specialty Mass Merchants including Costco, Best Buy, Circuit City. A significant portion of these sales, however, also encompass online – ie. Costco.com, BestBuy.com, etc…)
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Now they want to go back to Amazon data.


as they said, if you don't succeed, re-define success
 
mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Costanza said:
Picked up 300 at Target this morning on BD for 24.99 (cheapest I've ever paid for an HD disc...).

:D Can't wait to watch it.
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Is this a this week only sale?
 
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SUPREME1

Banned
kaching said:
Sure, I'm familiar with his posts - he wants HDDVD dead and buried, before it was even conceived. But that doesn't change the fact that all he is explicitly saying is that the format war doesn't help adoption rate and there's nothing untrue about that. You can't call the statement FUD simply because you know he is heavily biased towards BD and therefore assume he must be implying something more.
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Yes, you can.
 
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djkimothy

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Costanza said:
300 didn't look as good as I hoped it would in HD, mostly cause of the grain. Oh well at least a few of the shots WOW'd me.
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That's what I was afraid of. The grain was very pronounced in the theatres and I was wondering how that would look in HD on TV.

Still, it should look spectacular.
 
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fistfulofmetal

Banned
For my first Blu-ray purchase, 300 is spectacular.
It looked just as good, if not better in a lot of cases, than when I saw it IMAX.

Fye isn't selling it for 17.99, but rather for a mail in rebate.... which I don't think I got.

Oh well, ****ing awesome experience.

Also, I'll gladly double dip for this, I was jealous of the HD-DVD special features so I'm happy I'll be able to get them too.


Aaaand, LOTR trilogy on BD?! I wonder if there will be a version for the Extended edition of the movies
 
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Chemo

Member
Days like these... said:
When have I attacked you? Do you have some kind of persecution complex? It bears repeating that you are way too emotionally invested in this. Secondly if you're so sure blu-ray will win why do you get so worked up? Sooner or later it'll happen (maybe).
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You misread confidence for emotional investment. XD
 
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el Diablo

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Carlito's Way and the Prequel which shall not be mentioned (lol Puffy you P.O.S. can't you do anything that's your own w/out biting off of someone else) are scheduled for HD-DVD release Oct 23.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...oth_Carlitos_Way_Flicks_Coming_to_HD_DVD_/829

highdefdigest said:
Universal Studios Home Entertainment has announced it will bring 'Carlito's Way' and its direct-to-video sequel 'Carlito's Way: Rise to Power' to HD DVD this October.

Though not one of Brian DePalma's box office hits, 1993's 'Carlito's Way' went on to a garner a long shelf life on video, and is now considered to be one of the director's most underrated films. Universal followed it up twelve years later with the direct-to-video prequel, 'Carlito's Way: Rise to Power' (without DePalma's involvement).

The studio will debut both titles on HD DVD October 23, each a special edition sporting the same extras as their standard-def DVD counterparts. Among the goodies to be found on each will be multiple making-of featurettes, deleted scenes and trailers. The original 'Carlito's Way' will also include a still gallery.

Tech specs include 1080p/VC-1 transfers, and Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 surround tracks.

Universal has set a $29.98 list price for each.

We've added new listings for both 'Carlito's Way' and 'Carlito's Way: Rise to Power' to our HD DVD Release Schedule, under October 23. Stay tuned for box cover art to be revealed in the coming days.
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Good and bad news for me. Bad news because i don't own an HD-DVD player nor will i ever (unless somehow it ends up being the dominant format and turns BD into the next Beta), good news in that Carlito's Way (one of my top 5 movies) will be given the a HD transfer.
 
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kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
Flo_Evans said:
gah I don't get the grain hate! Its what film looks like!
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Me neither. As long as it's part of the original film and the grain is in HD just the like the rest of the film, I've got no problems. ;)
 
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Petrarca

Banned
DigitalBits: Weinstein to go neutral?

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

Meanwhile, Genius Products and The Weinstein Company have announced the DVD release of both Grindhouse films. Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof hits DVD on 9/18 (SRP $29.95) as a 2-disc unrated and extended edition, nearly 30 minutes longer than the theatrical cut. Extras are set to include 5 featurettes (Finding Quentin's Gals, The Guys of Death Proof, Kurt Russell as Stuntman Mike, Introducing Zoe Bell and Quentin's Greatest Collaborator: Editor Sally Menke), along with an international poster gallery and the trailer for Double Dare. Robert Rodriguez's Planet Terror will follow on 10/16 (SRP $29.95). Extras are subject to change, but look for a 2-disc unrated and extended edition as well, containing "the missing reel" along with audio commentary by Rodriguez, deleted scenes, The Badass Babes of Planet Terror featurette and more. Industry sources at Comic-Con were also hinting that the company may release the titles in BOTH Blu-ray Disc and HD-DVD formats sometime later this year, which would signal move for the company to an HD format neutral position. We're working to confirm this.

We've got a few more Blu-ray Disc street dates from Sony today... look for Surf's Up and Reign Over Me on 10/9, Starship Troopers and a Hollow Man: Director's Cut on 10/16, and The Company (2-discs), Hostel: Unrated and Hostel II on 10/23. New release titles in this list will street on DVD on these dates as well.

And in other big news on the HD front, both Target and BJ's Wholesale Club have decided to follow Blockbuster's lead in emphasizing only Blu-ray Disc in their retail locations during the upcoming holiday season. BJ's has said that it will drop HD-DVD altogether, carrying only Blu-ray in its 170 stores in the 4th quarter (click here for more from Video Business). Meanwhile, Target is planning to exclusively feature Sony's Blu-ray Disc players in their stores this holiday season, while also expanding their line-up of Blu-ray Disc software. Target will no longer carry HD-DVD players in their stores, although they will carry HD-DVD software and HD-DVD products will continue to be stocked on their online site (click here for more on this as well). Both of these announcements would seem to indicate a significant retail shift towards Blu-ray Disc heading into the 4th quarter. It will be interesting to see if others follow
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purg3

slept with Malkin
Costanza said:
Picked up 300 at Target this morning on BD for 24.99 (cheapest I've ever paid for an HD disc...).

:D Can't wait to watch it.
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Same here, also my first BD purchase. Next up, Planet Earth. Also noticed BB had Blue Planet today, is that worth picking up if I'm getting Planet Earth?
 
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Petrarca

Banned
purgeface said:
Same here, also my first BD purchase. Next up, Planet Earth. Also noticed BB had Blue Planet today, is that worth picking up if I'm getting Planet Earth?
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I don't know about blue planet, but blu-ray planet earth is ****ing awesome
 
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JB1981

Member
Costanza said:
300 didn't look as good as I hoped it would in HD, mostly cause of the grain. Oh well at least a few of the shots WOW'd me.
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Hmmm, yeah. I just got back from Best Buy where they had short 300 blu-ray clips looped on a Sony SXRD and I wasn't really thrilled with the PQ. Like you said, very grainy. I'm sure it's intentional but the transfer didn't fair well on the SXRD. The TV was probably in Vivid mode but still ... it didn't wow me like others.

Still waiting on my Amazon order :(
 
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captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
ManaByte said:
His "industry sources" were also telling him LFL would announce Star Wars at their panel.
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Oh gee manabyte taking issue with bill hunt again, but im sure the next hd dvd thing he uncovers you'll be posting in no time.

Not to mention that apparently several AVS posters that went to said event also spoke with some reps of weinstein and they hinted at the same thing.

<- wants clerks II on blu-ray and several other weinstein releases.
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

Member
Ignatz Mouse said:
Really? That kind of prediction usually shows up here. Link?
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He wasn't talking about HD, just the super mega ultimate DVD set. Lucasfilm just talked about Clone Wars and Lego Indy:

Now then... one other quick note this morning: The midi-chlorians are a-buzz today with word of a possible surprise DVD announcement from Lucasfilm at Comic-Con this weekend. This is certainly Rumor Mill-worthy and it remains to be seen how things will play out, but that's what we're hearing this morning here in San Diego. So keep your eyes and ears peeled for breaking news from the con. Wouldn't it be interesting if, after all the denials, Lucasfilm decided to release that ultimate Star Wars Saga DVD box set this year after all? We'll see...
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After their hints were BS:
One other Comic-Con note before we continue with our regular update: Contrary to reports we heard from industry insiders just prior to the show, there was no Lucasfilm DVD announcement made at the Con. Based on these reports, we'd half expected to hear an official announcement of the possible release of the Ultimate Star Wars box set this year, or at least The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. However, neither announcement was made. Gamers will be pleased to learn, however, that Lego Star Wars Saga and Lego Indiana Jones are both on the way (and Wii users will be able to use that cool remote to swing their lightsabers around in the Saga game).
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krypt0nian

Banned
Hey just a head's up. I got my corrected Fifth Element from SONY customer service in less than a week.

They sure as hell didn't have to replace them, and to have it happen so quickly? Unreal.

Kudos!
 
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captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
LM4sure said:
oh wow.
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The Planet Earth you'll see in stores is Attenborough.
The Planet Earth you see at discovery channel store or discover.com is Sigourney Weaver.
 
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DarkJediKnight

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3922.jpg


Cover. I hated this movie even though I'm a Chow Yun Fat junkie. Some of you probably worship it. :D
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

Member
DarkJediKnight said:
Cover. I hated this movie even though I'm a Chow Yun Fat junkie. Some of you probably worship it. :D
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Chow Yun Fat reloaded his guns in that movie. Everyone knows that Inspector Tequila has magic guns that NEVER need to be reloaded.

In Hard Boiled and The Killer you rarely, if ever see a gun run out of ammo. Here, there are at least two scenes where Chow Yun-Fat is unloading rounds into someone, and his clip runs out. That would've never happened in a Inspector Tequila flick.
 
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