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[Ignatz Mouse]

Pirates of the Carribbean misframed! Nobody cares?

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Notice in the BR version you can see the ground when they're supposed to be high up.

That's annoying, but I can't say it diminished my (already only moderate) enjoyment of the movie any.

If this were Blade Runner or something I would be up in arms.

 

[Warm Machine]

That is awful actually.

 

[fnmore1]

yeah, 2 of Harryhausen's films are being colorized
1 being 20 milliom miles to earth which was released about a month ago-
and the new one earth vs the flying saucers coming late this year-
the 20 million one loks good as far as the coloring goes- the b/w version
is also on the disc- so all is good
edit- they did have color at the time ..just not the budget

 

[Oni Jazar]

Pirates of the Carribbean misframed! Nobody cares?

I hate this crap. I would have never noticed until someone mentioned it. Now it bugs me.

Same damn thing happend to Universal's Back To The Future collection.

 

[Laurent]

I hate this crap. I would have never noticed until someone mentioned it. Now it bugs me.

Same damn thing happend to Universal's Back To The Future collection.

But in BTTF's case, it was obvious... Which reminds me, I need to call Universal ASAP, it's been almost 2 years since I send those DVDs!

 

[thaivo]

Recent Bill Hunt: http://digitalbits.com/#mytwocents

And on the high-def front today, there's a couple things to report as well. First, Video Business is reporting that the first cheap Chinese HD-DVD player will street sometime in the 4th quarter of this year under the "Venturer Electronics" brand. The SHD7000 is expected to retail for $199. You can visit Venturer's actual product page here. The low price is certainly going to be attractive to some, but one wonders how people who purchase this player will react later upon realizing that only a handful of studios support the format and that Disney (among other studios) isn't one of them. Other questions remain, including what kind of quality and reliability the SHD7000 will deliver at that price, which is almost certainly at or below cost of manufacturing, as well as what kind of customer support will be offered.

He is really stretching here. His argument about the exclusivity of content is the same with BD. How upset is someone going to be when they purchase a $150 movie player, and see they can't get Disney? Somewhat perhaps, but not as much as someone investing in a $500 player that doesn't play Paramount, Dreamworks or Universal... and can't run features of BD 1.1...

His comment that the price is below the cost of manufacturing is ludicrous. This company is not producing these players out of the kindness of their hearts, and they do not have the back-end profits of format royalties either.

 

[Oni Jazar]

But in BTTF's case, it was obvious... Which reminds me, I need to call Universal ASAP, it's been almost 2 years since I send those DVDs!

Are they still offering replacements? I never did mine. The DVDs are hidden in some closet at my dads.

 

[Marty Chinn]

But in BTTF's case, it was obvious... Which reminds me, I need to call Universal ASAP, it's been almost 2 years since I send those DVDs!

In several shots heads are getting cut off in POTC so it surprises me it didn't get noticed till now.

 

[Laurent]

Are they still offering replacements? I never did mine. The DVDs are hidden in some closet at my dads.

I was a bit late on that, it's been two years. I still have the email giving me the procedure to follow in order to get my replacements, but I never received anything. Meanwhile, I forgot about the whole thing until recently...

 

[Laurent]

In several shots heads are getting cut off in POTC so it surprises me it didn't get noticed till now.

Well if it's the back of a stuntman's head in a dark action scene, it's not that noticeable...

 

[VanMardigan]

So, why does it seem like a lot of the announced BR players today were still 1.0 profile and still $400 plus?

Was it just one 2.0 profile player announced?

edit:

more details on the Samsung dual format player:

It will play both disc formats at up to 1080p and either 24fps (so-called true film mode) or up to 60fps, dependent on disc content. It also features HQV video selectable up-conversion processing.

Audio-wise, it has both stereo and 7.1-channel outputs, coaxial and optical digital audio out, and supporting Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and dts HD.

 

[thaivo]

So, why does it seem like a lot of the announced BR players today were still 1.0 profile and still $400 plus?

Was it just one 2.0 profile player announced?

Do most here think that when 1.1 or even 2.0 are released, they might be competitive with current pricing, or perhaps even be less than current pricing?

To me, the introduction of these new specs appear to counter the movement toward price reductions, and are likely to keep prices high for some time. Is it possible prices of these new spec'd players may approach dual format player prices?

 

[Oni Jazar]

Do most here think that when 1.1 or even 2.0 are released, they might be competitive with current pricing, or perhaps even be less than current pricing?

To me, the introduction of these new specs appear to counter the movement toward price reductions, and are likely to keep prices high for some time. Is it possible prices of these new spec'd players may approach dual format player prices?

From insider kjack (Director Product Marketing
Sigma Designs/BD and HD-DVD decoder supplier):

- There are more than 10 companies in the process of making stand-alone BD players, several at the request of major retailers. Most of these companies will have at least two models.

- Lots of things are being to done to reduce BD player cost as much as possible as fast as possible. For example, we are working closely with the CE companies, drive manufacturers, and DRAM/Flash suppliers to remove every penny from the player cost that we can. And we don't charge a royalty for our software, and use Linux OS, to further lower player costs.

 

[KachoMakura]

Question to BDA: it's about Paramount/Dreamworks. People speculated that Paramount were given 'sweeteners''. The person asking wants a Yes or No answer from all of the studios - have you been 'sweetened' to stick exclusively with Blu-ray?
Answer: Nobody wants to answer this.

The FOX exec is given the mic: "We were given very good content protection" (smiles).

(They continue passing the mic around).

Question to BDA: The guy who originally asked the question wants a definite confirmation that NO studio has received any sweetener to stay with Blu-ray.

Answer from Buena Vista: "That's not what I said. I said no comment".

:lol

 

[lupin23rd]

Recent Bill Hunt: http://digitalbits.com/#mytwocents


He is really stretching here. His argument about the exclusivity of content is the same with BD. How upset is someone going to be when they purchase a $150 movie player, and see they can't get Disney? Somewhat perhaps, but not as much as someone investing in a $500 player that doesn't play Paramount, Dreamworks or Universal... and can't run features of BD 1.1...

His comment that the price is below the cost of manufacturing is ludicrous. This company is not producing these players out of the kindness of their hearts, and they do not have the back-end profits of format royalties either.

I'm more concerned about those poor folks who decided to go real cheap and pick up an "HD DVD" player along with a couple movies, only to find out that what they bought was an upconverting HD DVD player.

Spoiler

ok, I'm not concerned in the slightest - should have gone Blu suckers!

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

thaivo, are you immune to the idea that CE prices drop very quickly after the inital R and D? And not just for HD DVD players?

 

[Marty Chinn]

Well if it's the back of a stuntman's head in a dark action scene, it's not that noticeable...

I wouldn't call these the back of stuntmens' heads....

 

[AZ Greg]

:lol

Edit: Beaten!

 

[lupin23rd]

Question to BDA: The guy who originally asked the question wants a definite confirmation that NO studio has received any sweetener to stay with Blu-ray.

I didn't know Van was at the event :lol

 

[OokieSpookie]

I have to ask Marty, what is the major hard on all of the sudden for PoTC?
The movies have been out for months, and if people were so offended and upset I would think that it would have been something that received a bit more coverage..

 

[thaivo]

thaivo, are you immune to the idea that CE prices drop very quickly after the inital R and D? And not just for HD DVD players?

I'm not immune to the idea... :lol I do think that adding more hardware to the spec's doesn't help reduce prices.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Look! High-end *and* low-end options for buyers!

 

[maynerd]

I wouldn't call these the back of stuntmens' heads....

Which is which?

 

[thaivo]

Look! High-end *and* low-end options for buyers!

Isn't BD 1.1 mandatory?

 

[Marty Chinn]

Which is which?

BR version is the ones where they cut off the heads.

 

[Laurent]

I wouldn't call these the back of stuntmens' heads....

First of all, I haven't watched nor do I intend to buy that movie (DVD or Blu-ray, I don't care about Pirates)... Second of all, FUCK, this is ridiculous!!!!!!!!

 

[maynerd]

BR version is the ones where they cut off the heads.

WTF?! That's really awful!

This is odd....which pirates movie is this?

 

[thaivo]

WTF?! That's really awful!

This is odd....which pirates movie is this?

Those screenies are from POTC # 1... the best film of the bunch.

 

[Oni Jazar]

I wouldn't call these the back of stuntmens' heads....

Do you know if this is the only scene that is out of frame?

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Isn't BD 1.1 mandatory?

Make up your mind-- it's either some players won't be 1.1 and won't play the interactive trivia game, or 1.1 is mandatory and thus all the players will be more expensive.

I'm getting confused trying to keep up with your stance.

 

[OokieSpookie]

:lol

Edit: Beaten!

It looks more like those are taken by someone who is playing with "stretch" and "zoom", not that they are but just what it looks like.

 

[jjasper]

:lol I knew something looked off when I watched Pirates.

 

[thaivo]

Make up your mind-- it's either some players won't be 1.1 and won't play the interactive trivia game, or 1.1 is mandatory and thus all the players will be more expensive.

I'm getting confused trying to keep up with your stance.

You are indeed a confused individual. :lol 1.1 was to become mandatory as of a specific date. To suggest that my comment meant that 1.1 features would be mandatory to players produced prior to that date would be very silly.:lol

 

[Marty Chinn]

It looks more like those are taken by someone who is playing with "stretch" and "zoom", not that they are but just what it looks like.

It's not because if you look, you can tell the frame is simply shifted downward. You see less up top and more on the bottom.

 

[maynerd]

Hasn't this movie been out a while on BR? Why is this just coming out now?

WTF!?

I'm glad I didn't get this rubbish!

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

You are indeed a confused individual. :lol 1.1 was to become mandatory as of a specific date. To suggest that my comment meant that 1.1 features would be mandatory to players produced prior to that date would be very silly.:lol

I know, thaivo, but do you really think that will matter much, or (this is my guess) just throwing out as much anti-bd propaganda as you can today? As you like to point out, "standalone" sales of bd to date is relatively small.

And the 1.1 stuff is not the kind of stuff that drives up player prices, unless you buy into the whole two-decoders thing (which you probably do).

I think it's funny you pointinf out Bill Hunt's stretch (accurately) when you've been doing nothing but making stretching comments all day today.

 

[thaivo]

I know, thaivo, but do you really think that will matter much, or (this is my guess) just throwing out as much anti-bd propaganda as you can today? As you like to point out, "standalone" sales of bd to date is relatively small.

And the 1.1 stuff is not the kind of stuff that drives up player prices, unless you buy into the whole two-decoders thing (which you probably do).

I think it's funny you pointinf out Bill Hunt's stretch (accurately) when you've been doing nothing but making stretching comments all day today.

I won't really believe the whole "two-decoders thing" until it becomes a reality.

I admit to being very pro HD-DVD, and negative towards BD, and will definitely highlight the negatives as it relates to BD any chance I get. It's not exactly something I keep under wraps. However, I think Van's questions about the absence of lower BD player prices were valid.

The Bill Hunt comments were quoted due to their total ludicrousness. :lol

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Total ludicrousness is how I'd describe your posts today, as well.

I didn't see Van's post, but there was both an announcement of Chinese BD players today and a reference that retailers are requesting low-end models from a number of manufacturers. Nothing concrete announced, but then again, the price of the cheap HD DVD player hasn't been announced officially either.

As I said months and months ago, I expect we'll see $300 MSRP players by Black Friday, and deals to make them even cheaper. By the end of 2007, you'll never see more than a $100 gap between the formats again, at least until the HD DVD fire sales.

 

[OokieSpookie]

Total ludicrousness is how I'd describe your posts today, as well.

I didn't see Van's post, but there was both an announcement of Chinese BD players today and a reference that retailers are requesting low-end models from a number of manufacturers. Nothing concrete announced, but then again, the price of the cheap HD DVD player hasn't been announced officially either.

As I said months and months ago, I expect we'll see $300 MSRP players by Black Friday, and deals to make them even cheaper. By the end of 2007, you'll never see more than a $100 gap between the formats again, at least until the HD DVD fire sales.

I honestly have come to the conclusion that thaivo is someone's alt who just comes into this thread to stir shit up and post inane articles and that is pretty much it so I ended up blocking them, also because the excessive use of emotes was making me want to throat punch and curb stomp someone.

 

[thaivo]

Total ludicrousness is how I'd describe your posts today, as well.

I guess I could say the same of your posts too.

...but then again, the price of the cheap HD DVD player hasn't been announced officially either.

The price of the cheap HD DVD players was announced previously, and confirmed by the manufacturer to be $199 MSRP, which likely means even lower at retail.

... you'll never see more than a $100 gap between the formats again, at least until the HD DVD fire sales.

Then you must be predicting a BD player for $250 retail, since the Venturer players are likely to be around $150 retail. This is something that I'd like to see.

also because the excessive use of emotes was making me want to throat punch and curb stomp someone.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[The Main Event]

http://www.startrek.com/custom/include/feature/bst/tos-enhanced/index.html

Pretty damn cool.

 

[OokieSpookie]

http://www.startrek.com/custom/include/feature/bst/tos-enhanced/index.html

Pretty damn cool.

Yeah I have been trying to catch the remastered eps when they air but they are on at a really odd time here and it changes.
All and all pretty impressive stuff that will look great in high def.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

When I watched PotC... didn't notice anything off about that scene funnily enough.

But now I will. Thanks attentions whores! I should've never started browsing on video game forums. First it was s-video cables, then component, then HD, 720p, 1080p, black levels, IME, PCM, Linear PCM, bitstream, Dolby HD, DTS HD, etc, etc, etc... and now pointing out and making me regret purchases because of stuff I didn't notice!

Spoiler

I would take a single off-frame scene with the whole movie in HD over SD 1000 times, before I wavered once.

 

[jjasper]

Man at first I thought it was a HD DVD to original comparison and all I could think was "This just looks like a remaster":lol

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I think Ookie has the right idea.

And yes, thaivo, I expect MSRP $300 BD players by Christmas, and rebates/sales/deals to make them even less. $250 sounds about right.

 

[distantmantra]

I'm glad to hear that the Harry Potter box set is still coming to Blu-ray, aside from Oldboy and Blade Runner, it's probably my most anticipated release for the remainder of the year.

I had some Amazon e-certs lying around from a trip to CoinStar, so I just paid off preorders for Robocop and Ratatouille on Blu-ray!

 

[thaivo]

I think Ookie has the right idea.

And yes, thaivo, I expect MSRP $300 BD players by Christmas, and rebates/sales/deals to make them even less. $250 sounds about right.

Good luck with that expectation.

 

[jjasper]

You can get e-certs from Coinstars now? i didn't know that.

 

[OokieSpookie]

You can get e-certs from Coinstars now? i didn't know that.

Yeah they have many different available but Amazon is usually the best way to go plus when you do the certs they do not take a % out like they normally do.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Good luck with that expectation.

$400 players are announced, we're one price drop or cheaper model + one Black Friday sale away from that.

I'll be happy to come to this thread and crow about it, as well.