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[The Main Event]

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-1/qid=1191282712******sr_1_1/601-4871493-9337706?ie=UTF8&asin=B000W7O43U

$249.99

 

[Rugasuki]

In my opinion, the PRO 110FD is the best TV in the world....it should be the best of all KUROs....the 1080p models have the best contrast ratio and the 50-inchers have slightly better contrast than the 60 incher because there are more plasma cells per square inch on the 50s so you have a tighter group of 1920 x 1080 pixels there...and the ELITEs are the best of the best so the best Pioneer Plasma (Picture Quality-wise) is the 50-inch 1080p Elite TV.....ie, the Elite PRO 110FD

Regardless, my eyes tell me I have never seen a better picture PERIOD, this includes demos I have seen of Fujitsu AVIAMO 1080p panels, Runco panels.....but the #1 very best picture I have ever seen was the SIM2 HT5000 3-chip 1080p DLP front projector ($49K) in a light controlled home theater on a 120-inch Stewart Filmscreen GrayHawk screen........the picture quality of the Pio ELITE 110FD Blu Ray demo I saw was *AT LEAST* as good as that.....so good, you wanted to cry:lol

But you dont have to believe me, check out this review of the Elite 110FD from Home Theater mag and notice the very first line in the review says this in italics:

greatest flat-panel ever


There *is* no better Flat Panel IMO

Kleegamefan is right about the new Elite Kuro's being the best flat panel displays available (or arguably one of the best displays period). I would say that the 44% area size increase of the 60" of the 150fd is worth more than the very minuscule reduction compared in contrast to the 110 but I guess it all depends what you are looking for in a display.

I already told this to Kleegamefan by PM a while ago, but for you guys that are looking for an amazing deal on the Elite Kuro plasmas, Axxis Audio of Durango, CO has the best pricing I know of (and I've looked around quite a bit). He is a sponsor over at AVSforum.com and has sold quite a few of them to members there. My 150FD from him is shipping tomorrow. I'll post some pictures once I get it.

 

[Beer Monkey]

Kleegamefan is right about the new Elite Kuro's being the best flat panel displays available (or arguably one of the best displays period). I would say that the 44% area size increase of the 60" of the 150fd is worth more than the very minuscule reduction compared in contrast to the 110 but I guess it all depends what you are looking for in a display.

I already told this to Kleegamefan by PM a while ago, but for you guys that are looking for an amazing deal on the Elite Kuro plasmas, Axxis Audio of Durango, CO has the best pricing I know of (and I've looked around quite a bit). He is a sponsor over at AVSforum.com and has sold quite a few of them to members there. My 150FD from him is shipping tomorrow. I'll post some pictures once I get it.

K.Lee has talked about sitting extremely close to these big flat screens and he has a separate projector (a Ruby, I think) for his large-screen experience. Most people, though there are exceptions and some would be here at GAF, are literally wasting resolution getting 1080p@50" to watch movies and play games. If you are sitting 6 feet away, it can make sense. At more typical living-room viewing distances of 10+ feet, don't get a 42-50" set for resolution alone. If it has great colors, black level, contrast, latency, and that's why you are buying it, then go ahead. And if you are sitting at a more typical distance it could seriously be worth paying for a 60" even if you give up a little contrast.

As an all-in-one solution for people without a dedicated theater, small (and I include 50" in the 'small' category) sets don't really need 1080p unless you sit really close. They make brilliant sense for studio apartments, for example.

 

[TAJ]

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-1/qid=1191282712******sr_1_1/601-4871493-9337706?ie=UTF8&asin=B000W7O43U

$249.99

Isn't that 25% over MSRP? What a fucking ripoff.

 

[Bebpo]

I already told this to Kleegamefan by PM a while ago, but for you guys that are looking for an amazing deal on the Elite Kuro plasmas, Axxis Audio of Durango, CO has the best pricing I know of (and I've looked around quite a bit). He is a sponsor over at AVSforum.com and has sold quite a few of them to members there. My 150FD from him is shipping tomorrow. I'll post some pictures once I get it.

Let me know how it goes with you. My parents are going to get this set, but I feel unsure about having them buy it from some random dealer I don't know. If I was buying it for myself I'd be more ok with it, but since it's their TV and their money I want to be 100% careful.

 

[TAJ]

K.Lee has talked about sitting extremely close to these big flat screens and he has a separate projector (a Ruby, I think) for his large-screen experience. Most people, though there are exceptions and some would be here at GAF, are literally wasting resolution getting 1080p@50" to watch movies and play games. If you are sitting 6 feet away, it can make sense. At more typical living-room viewing distances of 10+ feet, don't get a 42-50" set for resolution alone. If it has great colors, black level, contrast, latency, and that's why you are buying it, then go ahead. And if you are sitting at a more typical distance it could seriously be worth paying for a 60" even if you give up a little contrast.

As an all-in-one solution for people without a dedicated theater, small (and I include 50" in the 'small' category) sets don't really need 1080p unless you sit really close. They make brilliant sense for studio apartments, for example.

This is constantly overstated, and often flat-out wrong.
First, it depends on how good your vision is. I can see every line of 1080p on a 50" display from 10 feet away, or ~11 feet if it has significant overscan.
Also, people who use this argument tend to ignore the gray area between being able to see every line of 720p and being able to see every line of 1080p.

 

[bishoptl]

Even when you order from the Amazon.com website, if your address is Canadian, your stuff will be shipped from their Canadian warehouse (which I think is located in Vancouver if I'm not mistaken).

I've ordered $100+ of stuff a couple of times from them, never paid a dime for import duties and taxes (great way to avoid our 13.95% TX here in Quebec).

Hey, thanks for the heads up. I didn't know it was based here in Vancouver.

 

[Kleegamefan]

K.Lee has talked about sitting extremely close to these big flat screens and he has a separate projector (a Ruby, I think) for his large-screen experience. Most people, though there are exceptions and some would be here at GAF, are literally wasting resolution getting 1080p@50" to watch movies and play games. If you are sitting 6 feet away, it can make sense. At more typical living-room viewing distances of 10+ feet, don't get a 42-50" set for resolution alone. If it has great colors, black level, contrast, latency, and that's why you are buying it, then go ahead. And if you are sitting at a more typical distance it could seriously be worth paying for a 60" even if you give up a little contrast.

As an all-in-one solution for people without a dedicated theater, small (and I include 50" in the 'small' category) sets don't really need 1080p unless you sit really close. They make brilliant sense for studio apartments, for example.

I wish I had a ruby *sobs*

I have an old-ass Marantz VP12 S1 DLP front projector....though the picture is great, its still not as nice as my 2 year old Panny plasma let alone the power that is a Pioneer KURO:lol


Although I do agree with you that you should not sit more than 100 inches away from the 50 inch Elite (unless you have fantastic eyesight) to get the benifit of 1080p, you are still getting better performance over the 768 panels contrast wise......and that makes a difference at all viewing distances...

Just my $.02

 

[Kleegamefan]

http://www.live-pr.com/en/dts-r-demonstrates-advanced-version-of-r1048162944.htm

At the 123rd AES Convention this year, DTS, Inc. (NASDAQTSI) will demonstrate the newly released version of the DTS-HD Master Audio Suite (MAS), the DTS-HD MAS V. 1.5, which officially shipped for Mac-Intel worldwide this fall. Exhibiting at Booth #354 at the Jacob Javits Convention Center in New York City October 5-9, 2007, DTS representatives will provide ongoing training at the booth for show attendees on the new capabilities of the DTS-HD MAS V.1.5.

One of the key new features of DTS-HD MAS V.1.5 includes support for secondary audio DTS Express encoding for Blu-ray Disc, which allows users to dynamically change volume of primary audio for use in picture-in-picture, director commentaries and other interactive features. These added functions support the new generation Profile 1.1 Blu-ray Disc players, which support simultaneous mixing of two audio streams.

Introduced at the 121st AES convention last year, the DTS-HD MAS is a complete software solution designed for the preparation of audio streams for next generation optical disc formats, Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD. It encodes bit streams in the following formats: DTS-HD Master Audio, DTS-HD High Resolution, DTS 96/24, DTS-ES 6.1, DTS Digital Surround and DTS Express. The DTS-HD MAS is also applicable to DVD-V and Surround Music CDs.

"DTS is proud to support the creative community with such an advanced and flexible toolset for the next generation optical disc formats," said Brian Towne, Senior Vice President and General Manager, Consumer Division, at DTS. "Our goal for the DTS-HD Master Audio Suite is to continue to provide the best possible encoding capabilities to facilitate the highest quality content as equipment and technology evolves."

At AES, DTS will also showcase a 7.1-channel DTS-HD encoding and playback system as well as some of the latest next generation HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc consumer players from Toshiba and Samsung, connected to a DTS-HD Master Audio compatible A/V receiver.

In addition to the ongoing demonstrations and trainings at the DTS booth, DTS representatives will present the following tutorial: -0-
Tutorial T3 - "7.1 Mixes for Blu-ray and HD DVD: Workflow from Mix to Encode" Friday, October 5th 3:00 pm - 5:00 pm Presenters: Ronny Katz, DTS, Inc. / Jeff Levison, DTS, Inc. Consultant/Levison Audio


About DTS-HD Master Audio(TM)

DTS-HD Master Audio delivers sound that is bit-for-bit identical to the studio master. It can deliver audio at variable bit rates which are significantly higher than standard DVDs. DTS-HD Master Audio can provide up to 7.1 audio channels at a 96k sampling frequency / 24-bit depth or 5.1 audio channels at 192 kHz that are identical to the original master. The DTS-HD Master Audio bit stream also contains the DTS 1.5 Mbps core for backwards compatibility with existing DTS-enabled home theater systems, and delivery of 5.1 channels of sound at twice the resolution found on most standard DVDs. ...........

 

[Dot50Cal]

This has been said a couple of times, but DVDs aren't 480i. They can be, but it's pretty unlikely. Movies are encoded at 480p.

Thats not true actually, the sources are 480i on the disc. Rip a dvd and open the raw vob's.

http://hometheater.about.com/od/dvdrecorderfaqs/f/dvdrecgfaq13.htm

All DVDs are recorded in the 480i standard.

Interlaced fields can be re-interleaved by your progressive player to the original progressive video, but its still stored on the disc as 480i.

 

[TAJ]

Thats not true actually, the sources are 480i on the disc.

Except PAL discs. Those are 720x576i.

 

[VanMardigan]

Isn't that 25% over MSRP? What a fucking ripoff.

Is this a 720p/1080i player or does it do 1080p? I think I'll wait for some reviews to see about the loading times, PQ/AQ etc.

 

[StoOgE]

K.Lee has talked about sitting extremely close to these big flat screens and he has a separate projector (a Ruby, I think) for his large-screen experience. Most people, though there are exceptions and some would be here at GAF, are literally wasting resolution getting 1080p@50" to watch movies and play games. If you are sitting 6 feet away, it can make sense. At more typical living-room viewing distances of 10+ feet, don't get a 42-50" set for resolution alone. If it has great colors, black level, contrast, latency, and that's why you are buying it, then go ahead. And if you are sitting at a more typical distance it could seriously be worth paying for a 60" even if you give up a little contrast.

As an all-in-one solution for people without a dedicated theater, small (and I include 50" in the 'small' category) sets don't really need 1080p unless you sit really close. They make brilliant sense for studio apartments, for example.

Thanks for the info Klee, I was hoping you would weigh in being the resident TV guru. I love my FD1, but the black level is pretty iffy and the color reproduction pales in comparison to my friends new panny, whos black levels also seem better ... I know the Kuros are king with contrast and blacks.. but Im glad to hear they do have the super adjustable greyscale and color (which I had heard on AVS some months ago they wouldnt have). Double Bonus is the fact that the ISF helped design some of the components for this sucker, meaning the calibrator should be able to work his magic better than normal.


I sit about 7 feet away from my screen (Ive got a 42" 720p POS LCD RPTV right now in my living room and a 50" FD1 in the "theater") because I live in a condo and space is a premium. So, a 50" 1080p is right in my wheelhouse. I have 20/18 vision so anything larger and I'd start losing out on some IQ. The only real disadvantage to sitting so close (I dont sit as close in the "theater") is that my sound field doesnt have as much room to breath as it should. The SVS seems to handle this really well, the axioms not so much.. I dont know why but Im really starting to prefer that little 1200 dollar system to my Axioms which cost a ton more.

Ive been toying with the idea of killing off the HT room (which is essentially a second bedroom that goes unused) and turning that into a game room with pool table. So, selling the FD1, one of my sound systems (Either Axiom of SVS), reciever, and POS RPTV would likely come very close to paying for the 110. Which makes this easier for the female to take.. she never saw the need for two rooms with TV's, and in my space it doesnt make alot of sense.. plus she hates the room with black walls. :lol. Plus, I may be moving into a 1 BR with the same square footage soonish, so having two home theater setups will become a problem.

 

[Oni Jazar]

Is this a 720p/1080i player or does it do 1080p? I think I'll wait for some reviews to see about the loading times, PQ/AQ etc.

Why would you consider the Venturer when it costs about the same as a Toshiba?

 

[StoOgE]

Why would you consider the Venturer when it costs about the same as a Toshiba?

because poor build quality makes it fun!

 

[Oni Jazar]

Fox is finally back. Here's a review of Day After Tomorrow:

Video Quality on this release is 1080p in AVC MPEG-4 on a BD-50 Dual-Layered Disc. In a word, this transfer is absolutely stunning. There are numeous times throughout the film that the bit rate hovers around high-40mbps (The highest I saw was 49mbps). Grain is rarely ever present except during a slight sequence where it’s raining near the Capitol building. Colors, while sometimes overly pumped up (I noticed this during the airplane sequence in particular Sam’s face), were solid and sharp (take a look at the sequence at the beginning..breathtaking). The film’s print seems like it has been touched as sequences that were soft in the SD presentation looked spectacular here. In particular I loved the tornado sequence and the NY sequence (the beginning storm surge registered 48mbps for nearly 5 seconds solid)! I might be reaching here a bit, but this transfer is so impressive that I’m confident in ranking The Day After Tomorrow in the high Tier 1, if not Tier 0 range. Yes folks, the overall image is THAT impressive.

http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/

 

[ThirstyFly]

For you fellow Canadians who are now using amazon.com instead of .ca, are you really saving that much more since you can't use the free shipping option for a Canadian address? How are the shipping prices from the .com site?

 

[PROOP]

HD DVD has a big release this week:

HD DVD

* Evening (Universal)
* Freedom: 2 (Bandai Visual)
* The Getaway (1994) (Universal)
* Gods and Generals (Warner)
* Gothika (Warner)
* Knocked Up (Universal)
* Next (Paramount)
* Patch Adams (Universal)
* The Wild Bunch (Warner)
* Wyatt Earp (Warner)


Blu Ray


* Black Book (Sony)
* Gods and Generals (Warner)
* Gothika (Warner)
* Memoirs of a Geisha (Sony)
* Tekkonkinkreet (Sony)
* Underworld (Sony)
* The Wild Bunch (Warner)
* Wyatt Earp (Warner)

Exclusives bolded I'm thinking 58/42 for next week.

OMG watch tekkonkinkreet it is fucking awesome. By the same creators as Mindgame.

 

[VanMardigan]

Why would you consider the Venturer when it costs about the same as a Toshiba?

If its 1080p, it's actually cheaper. And about the quality, I'll wait for reviews.


Also, about the 20GB Ps3, I have some questions:

-Is the BC pretty much complete or as complete as the other models?
-How do you interact with the PsP since you don't have wifi?
-Other than the lack of wifi, is there any reason to avoid this model?

 

[StoOgE]

Fox is finally back. Here's a review of Day After Tomorrow:



http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/

all that bandwidth and its not a tier 0?

 

[Oni Jazar]

If its 1080p, it's actually cheaper. And about the quality, I'll wait for reviews.

From what I heard it is 720p/1080i only.

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

If its 1080p, it's actually cheaper. And about the quality, I'll wait for reviews.


Also, about the 20GB Ps3, I have some questions:

-Is the BC pretty much complete or as complete as the other models?
-How do you interact with the PsP since you don't have wifi?
-Other than the lack of wifi, is there any reason to avoid this model?

-The 20GB has full backwards compatibility, full EE and GS, so around 95% of games, work fine, while the rest may not, or with issues, check http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus to look up games, use the 60GB option.
-You can use any wireless network to access the PS3 from PSP. You just need to sync the 2 up through a local wireless network. An update is coming to allow wake on lan functions.
-If you can get it cheap, go for it. The hard drive is easily upgradable, and any card reader can be used to make up for the lack of card media slots.

I got one at launch because they were out of 60GB, and I see really no difference.

 

[Days like these...]

i wonder if we'll get those Venturer players in store. I'm going to do a little digging around to see if I can find anything out.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Re that 20 GB PS3 backwards compatibility: Keep in mind that the 5% or so probably does work, with minor issues. Sony is really anal (in a good way) about listing what works and what does not.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

With that Venturer price comingin higher than expected, I am omre certain in my old prediction that come Black Friday, there will only a $100 difference between the lowest BluRay player and the lowest HD-DVD player (apples to apples comparison, best deal you can find or MSRP, not some mixed comparison).

 

[Oni Jazar]

all that bandwidth and its not a tier 0?

Tier 0 is extremely difficult to achive, only two titles right now have that honor.

 

[Oni Jazar]

This is pretty damn cool and has nothing to do with format wars but everything to do with HD.

From digitalbits:

Finally today, we'll leave you with this... one of the prettiest things we think you will ever see in high-definition. The Japanese Space Agency (JAXA) has just launched a new probe called SELENE (a.k.a. KAGUYA in Japan) that's designed to orbit and map the Moon. But here's the cool thing: NHK (the Japan Broadcasting Corporation) has included a high-definition video camera on the mission - the first HDTV camera ever to leave Earth orbit. It's designed to take video of both the Earth and the Moon, and the hope is to capture the famous Earthrise vista in actual 1080 high-definition. In the meantime, the probe just shot its first 8 minutes of HD video on Saturday night, and sent it back to Earth on Sunday. JAXA hasn't released the whole video yet, but they have released the first snapshot from the footage. So here you go, everyone. This is what you all looked like in HD from halfway to the Moon over the weekend...

Can read more about it here:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/071001_selene_earth.html

 

[The Main Event]

This is pretty damn cool and has nothing to do with format wars but everything to do with HD.

From digitalbits:

Can read more about it here:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/071001_selene_earth.html

Can't wait for Blue Planet 2.0!

With that Venturer price comingin higher than expected, I am omre certain in my old prediction that come Black Friday, there will only a $100 difference between the lowest BluRay player and the lowest HD-DVD player (apples to apples comparison, best deal you can find or MSRP, not some mixed comparison).

The MSRP is actually $199.99. So either Venturer's reps lied to us, or Target simply is charging more. I'm choosing the latter.

 

[VanMardigan]

Get ready, sports fans: ping pong is coming to high-def when Universal unleashes the summer comedy 'Balls of Fury' on HD DVD this December.

Starring Christopher Walken, 'Balls of Fury' earned over $30 million during a relatively brief late-summer theatrical run, but like most comedies should score even bigger returns on home video. Universal is set to debut the flick on December 18 as an HD DVD/DVD combo, day-and-date with the standard-def DVD.

Tech specs for the high-def version include 1080p/VC-1 video in the film's 1.85:1 theatrical aspect ratio, and Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 Surround audio tracks.

Supplemental features on both the HD DVD and DVD will include two featurettes, deleted scenes and an alternate ending. So far, there are no announced high-def exclusives (aside from Universal's now-standard MyScenes bookmarking function).

Universal has set a list price of $39.98 for the HD DVD/DVD combo.

I haven't seen this yet, any impressions?

 

[Google]

For you fellow Canadians who are now using amazon.com instead of .ca, are you really saving that much more since you can't use the free shipping option for a Canadian address? How are the shipping prices from the .com site?

Shipping is retarded.

But then, I purchased 17 items, for $95, and I paid $40 for shipping. The majority of those items were books, which aren't particularly light, and indeed, I did pick up a couple of large hardbacks.

While shipping is expensive, you aren't paying 13% fuck you tax, and you are saving around 20/30% on 'new' items, along with whatever promotions Amazon are running.

I bought a load of crazy cheap children's books (all hovering between $1-$3), which I certainly couldnt have found on .ca, so yeah...

It's certainly cheaper.

 

[ghostmind]

This is pretty damn cool and has nothing to do with format wars but everything to do with HD.

From digitalbits:

Can read more about it here:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/071001_selene_earth.html

My new desktop image...

 

[The Main Event]

For you fellow Canadians who are now using amazon.com instead of .ca, are you really saving that much more since you can't use the free shipping option for a Canadian address? How are the shipping prices from the .com site?

Knocked Up HD DVD

Amazon.ca Order Summary
Items: CDN$ 43.96
Shipping & Handling: CDN$ 0.00

Total Before Tax: CDN$ 43.96
GST: CDN$ 2.64
PST: CDN$ 3.50
Order Total: CDN$ 50.10

Items: $27.95
Shipping & Handling: $7.98

Total Before Tax: $35.93
Estimated Tax: $0.00
Order Total: $35.93

Wow. Amazon.com just raised their shipping price . It was $5.98 before for standard shipping. I think I'll always order from DVD Pacific from now on:

Knocked Up: Unrated And Unprotected (DVD & HD DVD Combo) 1 $28.21 $28.21
Subtotal (for 1 product): $28.21
(*) Estimated shipping cost (for 1 weight item) by USPS International Priority Air Mail: $5.98
(**) Estimated total: $34.19

 

[Google]

I dont generally order individual items, unless I'm making a considerable saving...the couple $$$ really dont mean anything personally.

 

[thaivo]

Huh?

I never said I had a BD player, just that I had an HD player. You must have just misread my posts...

 

[thaivo]

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=551

Sony DADC has announced that they have produced their 10 millionth BD-50 disc. The disc, a copy of the upcoming 'Spider-man 3' Blu-ray release, was produced at Sony's Terre Haute facility in Indiana, one of three such facilities which produce the high capacity discs (the other two being in Austria and Japan). Together, the three plants have produced more than 50 million Blu-ray discs at a capacity of 21 million discs per month.

The huge increase in Blu-ray production can be attributed to gains in production yields. The BD-25 now has a consistent yield rate of around 85%, while the more difficult to produce BD-50 are consistently between 75% and 79%. Cycle times for the BD-50 have also greatly improved, meaning more Blu-ray discs are being made than ever before with levels for BD-25s approaching parity with their DVD production.

Sony has also extended assistance to Blu-ray disc replication equipment manufacturers Singulus and Oerlikon who are expected to release BD-50 upgrades for their popular manufacturing lines within the next few weeks.

This is good news for BD, but why have they made 50 million disks?!? They've only sold 2 million disks in the US in a span of over a year.... as far as I know..

 

[The Main Event]

I dont generally order individual items, unless I'm making a considerable saving...the couple $$$ really dont mean anything personally.

The shipping cost still jacks up to 19.94 (Amazon.com) if I decide to, say, order 5 copies of Knocked Up, bringing it to a total of 159.69.

DVD Pacific: 141.09 + 9.94 = 150.99
Amazon.ca: CDN$ 219.80 + 13.20 GST + 17.50 PST = 250.50

Anyways, most of the prices on Amazon.ca are absurd :lol

 

[Zombie James]

This is pretty damn cool and has nothing to do with format wars but everything to do with HD.

From digitalbits:

Can read more about it here:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/071001_selene_earth.html

Where's the actual 1920x1080 image?

 

[Days like these...]

I haven't seen this yet, any impressions?

Balls of Fury is our Wild Hogs for shame. Avoid at all costs.

 

[VanMardigan]

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=551

This is good news for BD, but why have they made 50 million disks?!? They've only sold 2 million disks in the US in a span of over a year.... as far as I know..

I'd love for this to be individually verified, but it is great news for BRD. Remember that Ps3 games are on BR discs as well. And maybe that figure is worldwide.

 

[Oni Jazar]

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=551



This is good news for BD, but why have they made 50 million disks?!? They've only sold 2 million disks in the US in a span of over a year.... as far as I know..

This tells me that Spiderman 3 included with PS3 this holiday is confirmed. I was thinking that if they included SM3 it would be a stripped down 25GB version like Talladega Nights last year. I guess they solved that problem.

 

[StoOgE]

I'd love for this to be individually verified, but it is great news for BRD. Remember that Ps3 games are on BR discs as well. And maybe that figure is worldwide.

that would be my guess as well.. PS3 games have to total 30+ million at this point.

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

that would be my guess as well.. PS3 games have to total 30+ million at this point.

It specifically mentions BD-50 discs, and I dont believe any PS3 games have used those yet. I may be mistaken though

 

[Oni Jazar]

It specifically mentions BD-50 discs, and I dont believe any PS3 games have used those yet. I may be mistaken though

The number is 10 million BD-50 discs, and 50 million BD discs total.

 

[Dot50Cal]

It specifically mentions BD-50 discs, and I dont believe any PS3 games have used those yet. I may be mistaken though

Nope, none use it yet as far as I know. The only talk we have is Kojima saying he wanted to use BD-50 a very long time ago (7 months?). No confirmation that they are though.

 

[Raistlin]

This has been said a couple of times, but DVDs aren't 480i. They can be, but it's pretty unlikely. Movies are encoded at 480p.

Actually not very many are encoded progressive.



Regardless ... it doesn't matter. No DVD player's MPEG decoder actually decodes progressive images. In all cases (regardless of whether the movie was encoded interlaced or progressive), the MPEG decoder is sending an interlaced image to the video processor.

DVD was designed for interlaced displays, and we've been feeling the pain ever since.

 

[Beer Monkey]

This is constantly overstated, and often flat-out wrong.
First, it depends on how good your vision is. I can see every line of 1080p on a 50" display from 10 feet away, or ~11 feet if it has significant overscan.
Also, people who use this argument tend to ignore the gray area between being able to see every line of 720p and being able to see every line of 1080p.

Go argue it with the Imaging Science Foundation.

And there are indeed test patterns that will prove you wrong. You cannot discern the added detail of a 50" 1920x1080p image from 10 feet away.

 

[gkryhewy]

Go argue it with the Imaging Science Foundation.

And there are indeed test patterns that will prove you wrong. You cannot discern the added detail of a 50" 1920x1080p image from 10 feet away.

Here is an interesting and related thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=767929

 

[thaivo]

I'd love for this to be individually verified, but it is great news for BRD. Remember that Ps3 games are on BR discs as well. And maybe that figure is worldwide.

Ah, didn't think about that. It makes sense now.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

shit, this is going to be at the bottom of the page. oh well.

OCTOBERBOGO @ fye.com for buy1get1 50% off. there's a glitch on the website though and you only have to have one item in the cart to get it to work. Tekkon Kinkreet [Blu-Ray] is in stock and is $39.91. 50% of that sound like a good deal?

edit: apparently it also works with the Warner "Best of blu-ray" sets. wow.

LOL, they fixed it minutes after I posted this. figures...I was right in the middle of ordering The Day After Tomorrow BD too.

 

[jjasper]

Hmm I might have to look into that