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[fatigues_gasolini]

The number is 10 million BD-50 discs, and 50 million BD discs total.

Whoops, guess I didnt read well enough. carry on.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

shit, this is going to be at the bottom of the page. oh well.

OCTOBERBOGO @ fye.com for buy1get1 50% off. there's a glitch on the website though and you only have to have one item in the cart to get it to work. Tekkon Kinkreet [Blu-Ray] is in stock and is $39.91. 50% of that sound like a good deal?

edit: apparently it also works with the Warner "Best of blu-ray" sets. wow.

LOL, they fixed it minutes after I posted this. figures...I was right in the middle of ordering The Day After Tomorrow BD too.

 

[VanMardigan]

Can you still buy one and get one 50% off? How do you get that?

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

yeah, you can still do that as that's what the coupon is actually for. It's the OCTOBERBOGO code, you have to put it in the coupon part of the checkout page.

sucks that it worked for something I only kind-of wanted but didn't work for something I did want.

 

[druie]

Has anyone else had issues with the Knocked Up HD-DVD using the 360 Player?

I bought my first copy from Best Buy, brought it home, a loading screen came up, but it failed to complete. Took it out and restarted it a few times, rubbed it off, and eventually the disc just stopped playing altogether, immediately reverting back to the dashboard. The DVD side worked fine, however. So, I exchanged it today for another, and I come home to the same exact problem. I've tested my player with other movies, and I haven't had any problems getting those to work.

I'm anticipating Best Buy will put up a struggle in refunding my purchase, and I really don't want to go through the trouble of dealing with Universal.

Is this a known defect, or do I just have bad luck?

 

[distantmantra]

I didn't see anyone mention it already, but like the Spider-man films, Black Book and Tekkonkinkreet are both recognized by the PS3 with a unique icon and name. Hopefully this feature isn't limited to new Sony titles.

 

[Xater]

Has anyone else had issues with the Knocked Up HD-DVD using the 360 Player?

I bought my first copy from Best Buy, brought it home, a loading screen came up, but it failed to complete. Took it out and restarted it a few times, rubbed it off, and eventually the disc just stopped playing altogether, immediately reverting back to the dashboard. The DVD side worked fine, however. So, I exchanged it today for another, and I come home to the same exact problem. I've tested my player with other movies, and I haven't had any problems getting those to work.

I'm anticipating Best Buy will put up a struggle in refunding my purchase, and I really don't want to go through the trouble of dealing with Universal.

Is this a known defect, or do I just have bad luck?

I have seen a thread about it on AVS but didn't look into it.

 

[Oni Jazar]

I didn't see anyone mention it already, but like the Spider-man films, Black Book and Tekkonkinkreet are both recognized by the PS3 with a unique icon and name. Hopefully this feature isn't limited to new Sony titles.

I'd love to see a picture of this.

 

[VanMardigan]

Is this a known defect, or do I just have bad luck?

Do you have the latest firmware? It may also be the network features (if that title has any). Try turning off the network settings in the HD DVD menu and see if that helps. I know there was an issue with Heroes where it hung up sometimes if you had the network settings on. You had to turn those off and delete the bookmark on the console.

 

[TheJesusFactor]

For those interested... I haven't gone thru all the post to see if this CC and Best Buy deal is posted yet, but you can get a 100 gift card with the purchase of and HD DVD Player from Circuit City. This include the 300 and Bourne Identity with the A3, A30, and A35, plus 5 free movies from a new list. At Best Buy, you can get 9 movies but no $100 gift card. Basically the 2 that comes in the box, 5 from mail-in, and 2 instant selection from the store.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Does anyone know when Pan's Labyrinth is due on Blu-ray in the US?

 

[YYZ]

I'd love to see a picture of this.

yea it's true, I was a little surprised. There's no splash background like with PS3 games I think, that would be cool.

Where are people getting the Spiderman trilogy?

 

[Ceb]

I didn't see anyone mention it already, but like the Spider-man films, Black Book and Tekkonkinkreet are both recognized by the PS3 with a unique icon and name. Hopefully this feature isn't limited to new Sony titles.

Seriously? That's awesome. I've been hoping they'd add that to BD movies.

 

[Oni Jazar]

yea it's true, I was a little surprised. There's no splash background like with PS3 games I think, that would be cool.

Where are people getting the Spiderman trilogy?

It's out in Australia apparently. Region free.

 

[Xater]

It's out in Australia apparently. Region free.

Good grief is everyone getting it except Germany? Here there still only is the BD of SPider-Man 3 announced. WTF Sony?

 

[NekoFever]

I didn't see anyone mention it already, but like the Spider-man films, Black Book and Tekkonkinkreet are both recognized by the PS3 with a unique icon and name. Hopefully this feature isn't limited to new Sony titles.

I hope this is true. One of my annoyances with BD movies in the PS3 is that there's no way to identify them when they're in the drive like you can with games. Hell, it even gets CDDB information automatically when you're listening to a CD.

 

[mollipen]

I hope this is true. One of my annoyances with BD movies in the PS3 is that there's no way to identify them when they're in the drive like you can with games. Hell, it even gets CDDB information automatically when you're listening to a CD.

How in this day and age video or audio discs don't automatically comes with full support for disc recognition completely baffles me. (Or, if it's there, why players like the PS3 don't use it.) When I pop in a Blu-ray title, it should give me the name, a few other details (distributor, year, etc.), cover art, and whatnot. A .jpg image and a plain text file with that information, and any and every player would be able to recognize it.

I see some of the features that weren't there from the start on HD-DVD and Blu-ray, and it just seems like the people who came up with the full specs for these formats didn't have a brain in their heads.

(I was just thinking about this over the weekend, as I was watching a bit of 300 and noticed how terrible the subtitle font and size was. Why in god's name don't I have full control over that for every single release?)

 

[Benjamin1981]

Good grief is everyone getting it except Germany? Here there still only is the BD of SPider-Man 3 announced. WTF Sony?

Not true. The box-set is an MediaMarkt exclusive. Prices are from 59 to 89 €, depends on the Media Markt.

 

[Xater]

Not true. The box-set is an MediaMarkt exclusive. Prices are from 59 to 89 €, depends on the Media Markt.

What? Never seen that before. I found noting online (I checked pages like Area DVD pretty regularly for it) and I don't get Media Markt advertisement. I guess I will have to make drive to Essen on thursday. (Damn tomorrow is a holiday )

 

[DustinC]

I hope this is true. One of my annoyances with BD movies in the PS3 is that there's no way to identify them when they're in the drive like you can with games. Hell, it even gets CDDB information automatically when you're listening to a CD.

This might not be what you mean, but I know that at least with Tekkonkinkreet, it gives you a little box display similar to PS3 games with art and the title when you're in the PS3 menu.

 

[The Main Event]

Has anyone else had issues with the Knocked Up HD-DVD using the 360 Player?

I bought my first copy from Best Buy, brought it home, a loading screen came up, but it failed to complete. Took it out and restarted it a few times, rubbed it off, and eventually the disc just stopped playing altogether, immediately reverting back to the dashboard. The DVD side worked fine, however. So, I exchanged it today for another, and I come home to the same exact problem. I've tested my player with other movies, and I haven't had any problems getting those to work.

I'm anticipating Best Buy will put up a struggle in refunding my purchase, and I really don't want to go through the trouble of dealing with Universal.

Is this a known defect, or do I just have bad luck?

SOLUTION to the XBOX 360 addon/Knocked up problem here!
Here's the deal.

If you put the Knocked Up HD DVD disc in for the first time, and wait a minute or two, you should see a box that says LOADING with a red and black barber pole-like status bar next to it. If you do see this, WAIT!! Do NOT restart your console. A cookie is being downloaded to your 360, and it takes at least 10 MINUTES or so for it to fully download, so you just have to be patient and wait. In a while, the movie will start as per normal. Any other time you play the movie, it will start like any other HD DVD.

Now, if you're a dink like me, saw this loading screen, and, thinking there was a problem, decided to restart your XBOX before letting this update occur, when you try to play the movie, your screen will go black for a few seconds and then you will get kicked back out to the dashboard. THIS IS WHAT YOU MUST DO:

1: Go to the System blade
2: Go down and select Memory
3: Go down and Select HD Player (NOT Hard Drive)
4: Go down to the bottom entry. More than likely, it will be the largest entry in the list. When the cookie is fully downloaded, it will be 11 MB in size. When I checked for the cookie, it was 1MB in size (at the time i stopped the download).
5: When you have found the entry, DELETE IT.
6: Retry starting the movie and wait for the loading screen. When you see it, you will know you have succeeded.

Once you do see the LOADING screen, you will know it, since you won't ever have seen it before. BE PATIENT and let it do it's thing. At first it will say LOADING and after 3-5 minutes, the screen will dgo to black, and then the LOADING screen will reappear with a CANCEL button. Ignore the cancel cutton...just be prepared to wait another 10 minutes or so....then lo and behold the movie will start.

I'm not sure exactly what this cookie does, but it's probably related to the new U-CONTROL look and the web-enabled features. In any case, this "problem" is really an update, so no need to panic.

 

[druie]

Thanks for the info, I've got it working now.

You'd think they would put some type of warning or message on the download screen not to quit or turn off the machine or a slip of paper inside the box. I can only imagine casual consumers doing the same exact thing that happened to me and becoming really frustrated. Poor move!

 

[The Main Event]

Thanks for the info, I've got it working now.

You'd think they would put some type of warning or message on the download screen not to quit or turn off the machine or a slip of paper inside the box. I can only imagine casual consumers doing the same exact thing that happened to me and becoming really frustrated. Poor move!

That's what I was thinking too. Something that they should add in future web-enabled titles.

 

[CharlieDigital]

I've got the OPPO 971H and it has the best picture quality by far of any other DVD player I've tried. I have a 56" 720p Samsung DLP, so I needed a good scaler. The OPPO does and excellent job at scaling, but the image quality is entirely dependent on the DVD source. Obviously older single layer DVDs aren't going to look as good when upscaled as newer dual-layered, master from an HD source DVD. If your mind is made up on holding out, OPPO is the way to go.

...

Great input MadOdor; much appreciated.

Blast this stupid format war! I'm still mixed on HD formats. While it's clear in your shots that the HD picture is superior, let's just say that I feel satisfied with my current mix of 720p/1080i display and standard def. DVD. The gadget freak in me wants to get the 1080p and a hybrid player but the budget conscious adult side of me says to save the dough for the impending collapse of this credit market.

For the time being, I think I'm going to hold off a bit and do more viewing before I decide. I've never really spent much time with the HD/BR displays mainly due to the fact that I simply don't want to partake in this format war.

 

[Dot50Cal]

10 Minutes for a cookie? :lol

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

10 Minutes for a cookie? :lol

indeed, and an 11MB cookie at that.

 

[Dot50Cal]

What the? How is that even possible? Their code must be so sloppy.

 

[rc213]

What's with the crappy DVD/HD DVD/Blu-Ray commercials lately? They don't even bother mentioning HD DVD or Blu-Ray anymore, They just mention the DVD and 2 Disc Collectors Edition DVD. All they do is list the logos for HD DVD/Blu-Ray, Latest commercials I noticed this for were Knocked Up and Fantastic Four.

 

[lupin23rd]

What the? How is that even possible? Their code must be so sloppy.

But hey it's probably only one line of code, right? :lol

 

[NekoFever]

Yum, this came today:

I haven't had a chance to properly watch it since it's a birthday present and so has been confiscated for now, but I was allowed to "test" it. Video's MPEG-4 AVC according to my player, 1080i according to the back of the box. The episodes default to English with optional Japanese subtitles, and when my curiosity got the better of me I found that David Schwimmer sounds funny when he's raving in Japanese.

It looks really nice having watched the DVDs half a dozen times, and although the whole thing's deliberately grainy I was very happy with the amount of detail in the picture. I've been informed that it's a big improvement on the original (MPEG-2) HBO-HD broadcasts and I was plenty impressed with the scenes that I jumped to, like the D-Day jumps with all the planes and flak in the air and the assault at Brecourt Manor.

Now I just have to wait until I'm allowed to lose another ten hours of my life to this series...

 

[MickeyKnox]

Yum, this came today:

I haven't had a chance to properly watch it since it's a birthday present and so has been confiscated for now, but I was allowed to "test" it. Video's MPEG-4 AVC according to my player, 1080i according to the back of the box. The episodes default to English with optional Japanese subtitles, and when my curiosity got the better of me I found that David Schwimmer sounds funny when he's raving in Japanese.

It looks really nice having watched the DVDs half a dozen times, and although the whole thing's deliberately grainy I was very happy with the amount of detail in the picture. I've been informed that it's a big improvement on the original (MPEG-2) HBO-HD broadcasts and I was plenty impressed with the scenes that I jumped to, like the D-Day jumps with all the planes and flak in the air and the assault at Brecourt Manor.

Now I just have to wait until I'm allowed to lose another ten hours of my life to this series...

Blu-Ray edition release date info now.

Or I walk around outside and start killing people that cross my path.

 

[Dot50Cal]

Blu-Ray edition release date info now.

Or I walk around outside and start killing people that cross my path.

Doubt we'll be getting it, doesn't Universal hold the rights? Thats such a shame too, Im a huge BOB fan.

 

[TAJ]

Doubt we'll be getting it, doesn't Universal hold the rights? Thats such a shame too, Im a huge BOB fan.

I wouldn't worry about it. By the time it comes out, you'll be able to mail away for a player with two cereal box tops.

 

[shantyman]

Saw an HD Transformers on DVD/HD-DVD commercial last night. I cried (Blu only household).

 

[Xater]

Doubt we'll be getting it, doesn't Universal hold the rights? Thats such a shame too, Im a huge BOB fan.

Well actually Warner has the rights so a Bluray release can be expected.

 

[gkryhewy]

I wouldn't worry about it. By the time it comes out, you'll be able to mail away for a player with two cereal box tops.

HURRRRRR

 

[NekoFever]

Saw an HD Transformers on DVD/HD-DVD commercial last night. I cried (Blu only household).

It was a Dreamworks production though, and they're HD DVD. But according to IMDb the home video rights (in the US at least) are held by HBO Home Video who also hold the rights to The Sopranos which has come out on both formats. So who knows. All I know is I'm thankful that the format isn't region coded.

 

[thaivo]

Seems like a lot people without a PS3 as a BD player are having difficulty playing their copies of Fantastic 4, and new firmwares are presently unavailable to upgrade players that don't work...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=917344

BD-P1000 - can be finicky, some have stuttering
BD-P1200 - get a screen saying to update firmware, will not play
LG BH100 - reports that it doesn't work
Pioneer - ok
Sony - ok
Panny - ok
BD-P1400-ok

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=917522

Reports of people having trouble with the new BD+ copy protection is starting to surface. The movies in question are Fox's Blu-ray releases of "Day After Tomorrow, The" and "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer."

BD+ is a extra layer of copy protection. With it, they should be able to change the keys used to unlock it. In short this means that if a BD+ disc is hacked and copied they can change the keys which secures future discs of being copied.

All in all a good idea. However, reports of difficulties playing these BD+ protected Blu-ray releases are starting to surface.

Here is what we know so far:
Samsung players seem to be unable to play the discs but a firmware upgrade should be available or in works. However, some say they will not play on the lates firmware from the company. Panasonic players will play the disc but load times are very high. Again, Playstation 3 seems to be the safest bet when it come to Blu-ray. It should play them without problems.

What could be another major problem is that each time the studio change keys a firmware upgrade may be needed on some players. To make things worse many Blu-ray players doesn't even have a internet connection making firmware upgrades more difficult.

We hope this is not the case. If so, i feel that the Blu-ray camp may have scored a goal in its own net. Copy protection shouldn't make life hard for those that pay hard earned dollars for their legal movies. This in the end may push people into downloading illegal movies. At least here they know that these movies will play.

If you have problems with the discs or they work as a charmer please post your comments below. We will return when we have tried these discs out ourselves.

 

[Argyle]

SOLUTION to the XBOX 360 addon/Knocked up problem here!
Here's the deal.

LOL web enabled features

Seriously did anyone even test this shit?

 

[VanMardigan]

LOL web enabled features

Seriously did anyone even test this shit?

Your HD DVD attack is even funnier cause it follows the post about the Fox mess with their new movies. :lol

 

[StoOgE]

Looks alot better.. 200 dollars good though?

Might as well I guess, HBO probably wants 150 for it in the US when it comes out..

Looks like my second import.. Brotherhood of the wolf is awesome

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

Seems like a lot people without a PS3 as a BD player are having difficulty playing their copies of Fantastic 4, and new firmwares are presently unavailable to upgrade players that don't work...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=917344



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=917522

all I know is that if someone hacks the movie and causes the copy that I paid for to not work, I'd better be getting a free replacement from Fox.

I guess this means I'm filing my blu-ray receipts from now on.

 

[StoOgE]

all I know is that if someone hacks the movie and causes the copy that I paid for to not work, I'd better be getting a free replacement from Fox.

I guess this means I'm filing my blu-ray receipts from now on.

Where is Bill Hunt protector of consumers to complain about BD+?

I told ya'll this stuff isnt good for the consumer.

 

[VanMardigan]

Bill Hunt is busy planning his next birthday bash with the BDA.

Maybe he'll invite Rob Enderle and they'll make it a shill party.

 

[captive]

Where is Bill Hunt protector of consumers to complain about BD+?

I told ya'll this stuff isnt good for the consumer.

/eyeroll
He doesnt have a posting yet today.
But ya'll convientantly forget when he contacted disney/buena vista about the rotting discs.
That horrible blu-ray shill!

OT: nice weather today in Austin.

 

[Oni Jazar]

The issues with the Fox titles aren't even confirmed to be BD+ related. There is no confirmation that these titles use BD+.

 

[StoOgE]

/eyeroll
He doesnt have a posting yet today.
But ya'll convientantly forget when he contacted disney/buena vista about the rotting discs.
That horrible blu-ray shill!

OT: nice weather today in Austin.

I cant tell.. my blinds are shut so the smokers cant look in my office window from the balcony. They dont need to see my GAFing habits. But Im going to town lake hike and bike trail tonight (Is that what its still called since its not town lake anymore?)

Im mostly joking about Bill at this point.. but I dont like BD+.

Edit: I didnt realize that whole post was speculation. I just did a quick glance. I also just noticed it was from AVS. Oh well.

 

[MechDX]

War over! Timecop announced for HD DVD!

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=66069

Universal Studios Home Video have announced the US HD DVD release of two catalogue titles on 26th December 2007. Paul Schrader’s 1982 fantasy horror Cat People is now back on the schedule and is joined by Timecop starring Jean-Claude Van Damme.

Retail is $29.98 SRP each.

Cat People
HD-30 Dual Layer
1080P 1.85:1 Widescreen
English Dolby True HD 5.1 Surround
English Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 Surround
English SDH and French subtitles
Cat People: An Intimate Portrait by Paul Schrader
Feature Commentary with Director Paul Schrader
On the Set with Director Paul Schrader
Special Makeup Effects by Artist Tom Burman
Cat People Matte Paintings
Filmmaker Robert Wise on the producer of the Original Cat People - Val Lewton
Production Photographs
Theatrical Trailer

Timecop
HD-15 Single Layer
1080P 2.35:1 Widescreen
English and French Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 Surround
English SDH and French subtitles

Only Jean Claude could decide this ridiculous war.

 

[Xater]

Why is Univesal releasing old shit like that? It makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Forsete]

IIRC there was a problem with the movie "The Descent", it didnt work on some players but a firmware update was issued which solved the problem.

Now one thinks it would be a good idea to release these f/w updates in advance of the movie.