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[StoOgE]

Why is Univesal releasing old shit like that? It makes absolutely no sense.

Time Cop might be old.. but its awesome.

Now, who owns Universal Soldier and Double Team?

 

[Xater]

Time Cop might be old.. but its awesome.

No...

Universal Soldiers on the other hand...

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I love how the Fantastic Four movie problem is big news buy several HD-DVD releases have had problems like this in the past and it was "oh, upgrade your firmware" and forget about it.

 

[VanMardigan]

Panasonic unveils Blu-ray and HD DVD recorders made with 45-nm LSI technology

The company's choice to make both Blu-ray and HD products puts it in the same format-neutral camp as Intel Corp. in terms of the buzzed-about "format wars" between Blu-ray and HD DVD. Last month, Intel announced fifth-generation 45-nm Centrino mobile platform codenamed Montevina that will contain native support for both HD DVD and Blu-ray media when it launches next year.

link

 

[ManaByte]

IIRC there was a problem with the movie "The Descent", it didnt work on some players but a firmware update was issued which solved the problem.

Now one thinks it would be a good idea to release these f/w updates in advance of the movie.

The Descent didn't work due to how it used BDJ. The Fox issue is coming from the BD+ DRM.

I love how the Fantastic Four movie problem is big news buy several HD-DVD releases have had problems like this in the past and it was "oh, upgrade your firmware" and forget about it.

Again, it wasn't DRM that caused those problems.

 

[captive]

Time Cop might be old.. but its awesome.

Now, who owns Universal Soldier and Double Team?

I want "Soldier" with Kurt Russel.
"What are you going to do?
"I'm going to kill them all ma'am"
\m/

 

[MechDX]

I love how the Fantastic Four movie problem is big news buy several HD-DVD releases have had problems like this in the past and it was "oh, upgrade your firmware" and forget about it.

Firmware updates required for either side will slow HD adoption by casuals.

BD is worse though since there is no standard requirement for an ethernet port on stand alones. All HD DVD players are required to have them on the hardware. WHy they dont just put the updates on the discs with the movies(like PSP games) is beyond me though.

 

[StoOgE]

I want "Soldier" with Kurt Russel.
"What are you going to do?
"I'm going to kill them all ma'am"
\m/

that movie was unintentionally awesome :lol

My favorite scene is the one where the wind picks up really high and start killing people. KILLED BY WIND. :lol

Also, we need some Snake Pliskin action. Who owns Escape from NY?

 

[maharg]

What could be another major problem is that each time the studio change keys a firmware upgrade may be needed on some players. To make things worse many Blu-ray players doesn't even have a internet connection making firmware upgrades more difficult.

The whole point of BD+ is to make it so the disc has everything it needs to update the copy protection without a change in firmware, so this seems rather unlikely to me.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

Time Cop might be old.. but its awesome.

Now, who owns Universal Soldier and Double Team?

I know Double Team is a Sony picture because I used to have the DVD and remember the case (ugly as it was).

I want "Soldier" with Kurt Russel.
"What are you going to do?
"I'm going to kill them all ma'am"
\m/

Interestingly, did you know that Soldier is a "sequal" to Blade Runner? Good write-up about it at wikipedia.

It was written by David Peoples, who co-wrote the script for Blade Runner. By his own admission, he considers Soldier to be a "sidequel"/spiritual successor to Blade Runner.[1] It also obliquely references various elements of stories written by Philip K. Dick (who wrote the novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, on which Blade Runner is based), or film adaptations thereof.

 

[Oni Jazar]

The Descent didn't work due to how it used BDJ. The Fox issue is coming from the BD+ DRM.



Again, it wasn't DRM that caused those problems.

Again there is no proof that these issues are related to BD+ or that the discs use BD+ at all.

 

[ManaByte]

Again there is no proof that these issues are related to BD+ or that the discs use BD+ at all.

Um, the whole reason it took Fox this long to bring out new titles is that they were waiting for BD+ to be complete so they could DRM up their discs with it.

 

[acabado]

Panasonic unveils Blu-ray and HD DVD recorders made with 45-nm LSI technology



link

This article has a HUGE mistake,Panasonic unveiled a HDD/DVD recorders wich supports high definition and AVC.

The following models announced are high-definition HDD/DVD recorders that 2 are BD and the other 2 are DVD's.

Original article: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20071002/pana1.htm

 

[Oni Jazar]

Panasonic unveils Blu-ray and HD DVD recorders made with 45-nm LSI technology



link

This information is incorrect.

There seems to have been an error in traslation. The original source states:

The company claims that these new recorders would be able to record more content on a single disc than any others available in the market now.

Matsushita further said that they would also release the world’s first recorders capable of storing high definition media on standard DVD discs.

These are DVD recorders that record HD, not HD DVD recorders.

http://news.techwhack.com/6561/matsushita-blu-ray/

 

[Oni Jazar]

Um, the whole reason it took Fox this long to bring out new titles is that they were waiting for BD+ to be complete so they could DRM up their discs with it.

Fox may have been waiting this long for BD+, but they also do not want to miss out on the Fall 07 season and may have released titles without BD+. Again, there is no confirmation that these titles use BD+. This is not the first BD movie that requires firmware updates.

 

[VanMardigan]

Yeah, I dug around and its this statement from Panasonic that caused confusion:

Panasonic, the leading brand by which Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. is known, has unveiled three new Blu-ray Disc (BD) recorders and three high-definition (HD) DVD recorders at CEATEC JAPAN 2007.

Straight from their press release.

 

[StoOgE]

This article has a HUGE mistake,Panasonic unveiled a HDD/DVD recorders wich supports high definition and AVC.

The following models announced are high-definition HDD/DVD recorders that 2 are BD and the other 2 are DVD's.

Original article: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20071002/pana1.htm

I was about to say.. even the article itself (the one above with the misinfo) says that the available media is a BD disk or a harddrive.

Its an easy mistake, but a company as big as Panny going neutral would be a huge announcement, not just some some "oh by the way" kinda thing.

 

[RaidenZR]

Doubt we'll be getting it, doesn't Universal hold the rights? Thats such a shame too, Im a huge BOB fan.

I don't think so. That's HBO, aka Time Warner, aka it'll be dual release if it even comes out here.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

The Descent didn't work due to how it used BDJ. The Fox issue is coming from the BD+ DRM.



Again, it wasn't DRM that caused those problems.

We don't know that that's causing it on the BluRay players, either. Nor is it relevant. If my disc does not play, it does not play.

 

[djkimothy]

People making a mountain out of an ant hill for a film that not a lot of people care about. Is there not anything else better to do. :lol

 

[captive]

People making a mountain out of an ant hill for a film that not a lot of people care about. Is there not anything else better to do. :lol

Slow news day.

Interestingly, did you know that Soldier is a "sequal" to Blade Runner? Good write-up about it at wikipedia.

Thats awesome.

 

[TheJesusFactor]

Do you guys know if it is easy to rip HD or Blu-ray movies I own to my Hard Drive, excluding BD+. Just wondering if I can still watch my movies off the Hard drive if either format fails.

 

[Oni Jazar]

Um, the whole reason it took Fox this long to bring out new titles is that they were waiting for BD+ to be complete so they could DRM up their discs with it.

BAM

I have some recent information that the playability problems with TDAT and F4 are not related to BD+, but instead have to do with the Java support on the players in question. The firmware updates should resolve it.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=254083&postcount=3942

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Expect no response from Mana.

 

[Oni Jazar]

Expect no response from Mana.

his tag should be revoked.

 

[captive]

Expect no response from Mana.

None response from Mana is nothing new, really.


So i asked a few pages back, does anyone have any info on why 1408 isnt getting hi def treament?
That movie was awesome.

 

[ManaByte]

Expect no response from Mana.

I was going off this link, which is different than the new one Oni posted:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=917522

Reports of people having trouble with the new BD+ copy protection is starting to surface. The movies in question are Fox's Blu-ray releases of "Day After Tomorrow, The" and "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer."

BD+ is a extra layer of copy protection. With it, they should be able to change the keys used to unlock it. In short this means that if a BD+ disc is hacked and copied they can change the keys which secures future discs of being copied.

All in all a good idea. However, reports of difficulties playing these BD+ protected Blu-ray releases are starting to surface.

Here is what we know so far:
Samsung players seem to be unable to play the discs but a firmware upgrade should be available or in works. However, some say they will not play on the lates firmware from the company. Panasonic players will play the disc but load times are very high. Again, Playstation 3 seems to be the safest bet when it come to Blu-ray. It should play them without problems.

What could be another major problem is that each time the studio change keys a firmware upgrade may be needed on some players. To make things worse many Blu-ray players doesn't even have a internet connection making firmware upgrades more difficult.

We hope this is not the case. If so, i feel that the Blu-ray camp may have scored a goal in its own net. Copy protection shouldn't make life hard for those that pay hard earned dollars for their legal movies. This in the end may push people into downloading illegal movies. At least here they know that these movies will play.

If you have problems with the discs or they work as a charmer please post your comments below. We will return when we have tried these discs out ourselves.

Original link the post refers to:
http://www.dvdtown.com/news/did-blu-ray-score-a-goal-in-own-net-with-bd/4782

Reports of people having trouble with the new BD+ copy protection are starting to surface. The movies in question are Fox's Blu-ray releases of "The Day After Tomorrow" and "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer."

BD+ is an extra layer of copy protection. With it, Sony should be able to change the keys used to unlock it. In short, this means that if a BD+ disc is hacked and copied, Sony can change the keys that secure future discs from being copied.

All in all, a good idea. However, reports of difficulties playing these BD+ protected Blu-ray releases are starting to surface.

Here is what we know so far:
Some Samsung players may be unable to play the discs, but a firmware upgrade should be available or in works. However, other people say they will not play on the latest firmware from the company. Panasonic players will play the discs but load times are high. Again, Playstation 3 seems to be the safest bet when it come to Blu-ray. It seems to play BD+ without problems.

What could be another major problem is that each time the studio changes keys, a firmware upgrade may be needed on some players. To make things worse, many Blu-ray players don't have an Internet connection, making firmware upgrades more difficult.

We hope this is not the case. If so, the Blu-ray camp may have scored a goal in its own net. Copy protection shouldn't make life hard for those who pay hard-earned money for their legal movies. This in the end may push people into downloading illegal movies, where at least they know the movies will play.

Whether you have problems with BD+ discs or whether they work as a charm, please post your comments below. We will return with our own comments when we have tried these discs out ourselves.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I read that too, but I'm skeptical of such articles without a source, especially when they are mixing commentary (goal in own net, may be difficult to upgrade firmware) with facts.


You should be equally skeptical whether an article supports your suspicions/biases or not.

 

[VanMardigan]

That Best Buy deal is insane, and it works online too. That's 9 free movies if you pick up the 3rd Gen A30. 2 in the box, 2 from Best Buy, and 5 in the mail-in offer. For $399. WOW.

 

[Xater]

That Best Buy deal is insane, and it works online too. That's 9 free movies if you pick up the 3rd Gen A30. 2 in the box, 2 from Best Buy, and 5 in the mail-in offer. For $399. WOW.

HD DVD isn't desperate?

Spoiler

j/k

 

[thaivo]

I read that too, but I'm skeptical of such articles without a source, especially when they are mixing commentary (goal in own net, may be difficult to upgrade firmware) with facts.

You should be equally skeptical whether an article supports your suspicions/biases or not.

I think the reason many who read the articles, including myself, weren't skeptical was the first-hand accounts of Samsung BD player owners, and the close relation between Fox's delays in releasing HDM and the delay in the release of BD+.

 

[VanMardigan]

HD DVD isn't desperate?

Spoiler

j/k

It is

Spoiler

2 free movies

more desperate than Blu Ray.

 

[TAJ]

Why is Univesal releasing old shit like that? It makes absolutely no sense.

I wish every studio would release at least half as much "old shit" in HD as Universal .

 

[Xater]

I wish every studio would release at least half as much "old shit" in HD as Universal .

My complain is that it is "old + shit". Call me crazy but don't see alot of people buying a player because they see Timecop in HD on the shelves. (except Stooge maybe) :lol

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Universal may have released some old shit, btu they've also released more movies *period* than any other studio. Some whit is bound to come along.

Besides, one man's Timecop may be my Mystery Men.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

Universal may have released some old shit, btu they've also released more movies *period* than any other studio. Some whit is bound to come along.

Besides, one man's Timecop may be my Mystery Men.

I was just thinking about Mystery Men today. Why did Greg Kinnear basically tell them to fry him? that was the only part of the movie that didn't make any sense.

 

[Dabookerman]

Does anyone have a HD source of Lord of the rings?

 

[StoOgE]

1408 is weinstein who hasnt had an hddvd release in ages. they are a real small studio though, and their hd releases are allways late

mystery men is awesome. transfer is ass though

 

[distantmantra]

1408 is weinstein who hasnt had an hddvd release in ages. they are a real small studio though, and their hd releases are allways late.

Didn't they used to have HD-DVD releases out day and date with the DVD version? Have they taken a step back in this format battle?

 

[ManaByte]

Didn't they used to have HD-DVD releases out day and date with the DVD version? Have they taken a step back in this format battle?

Clerks II came out in November on DVD and January on HD-DVD.

 

[The Main Event]

My complain is that it is "old + shit". Call me crazy but don't see alot of people buying a player because they see Timecop in HD on the shelves. (except Stooge maybe) :lol

And me.

 

[captive]

1408 is weinstein who hasnt had an hddvd release in ages. they are a real small studio though, and their hd releases are allways late

mystery men is awesome. transfer is ass though

lol delayed answer.
Anyword on if Weinstein is still going nuetral? I would like Clerks 2 and 1408 among other things.

Im searching through amazon and i just found Seinfeld season 1 on blu-ray...

And me.

Dont lie, you already owned a player, or three. :lol

 

[distantmantra]

Bandai Visual USA will release SOS! Tokyo Metro Explorers: The Next on Blu-ray (and DVD) on December 11th.

http://www.bandaivisual.us/pdfs/PressRelease071002.pdf

$64.95 MSRP. Ugh. Bandai, your R2 pricing structure DOES NOT work here in North America.

 

[StoOgE]

weinstein is still hddvd exclusive. anyything else is rumor, thouhg it makes sense.

1)very few releases lately
2)very small studio that coould use money.
3)several big movies (grindhouse being the most prominent) were bombs.
4)they distribute alot of their releases in theater via brd supporters..
5) they are blockbuster exclusive and may be getting pressure from bb who funnels alot of money their way as part of their agreement.

the only catch is the brothers fucking hate disney... alot. which is probably why they are hddvd exclusive at this point.

if they go neutral buy the matador, its great.

 

[TAJ]

Do you guys know if it is easy to rip HD or Blu-ray movies I own to my Hard Drive, excluding BD+. Just wondering if I can still watch my movies off the Hard drive if either format fails.

Yes, I'm sure that's why you want to know.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I was just thinking about Mystery Men today. Why did Greg Kinnear basically tell them to fry him? that was the only part of the movie that didn't make any sense.

He didn't mean to. He was being a pompous ass and not listening to The Bowler who was trying to point out that they'd gotten the steps messed up.

 

[distantmantra]

Follow up to the Bandai Visual USA events of the last week, including losing their distribution deal with Geneon and the announcement of SOS! Tokyo Explorers...

Bandai Visual USA has slotted a new title for December which should be easy to meet as we've learned that they've signed up with Broccoli for their distribution needs. Another plus for this release is that they're thankfully separating the DVD and Blu-ray release (no HD DVD release is planned at this time either here or in Japan)

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

He didn't mean to. He was being a pompous ass and not listening to The Bowler who was trying to point out that they'd gotten the steps messed up.

oh.

in other news: He-Man in Hi-Def?

TVShowsonDVD.com has the first concrete details on the indie distributor's plans to bring the 2002 television version of 'He-Man and the Masters of the Universe' to disc. Spanning three separate single-disc volumes with 13 episodes a pop, the site reports that a feature-packed, remastered version of the series is currently being planned for a February 2008 DVD debut, and that there is a "better than 90%" chance of a release on Blu-ray and/or HD DVD.

According to information provided by BCI, testing of the episodes in high-def yielded "much better-quality visuals with extra depth to the scenes, more dynamic colors and greater background details."

(the rest of the article is all Negative Nancy so I didn't quote it.)

 

[mackaveli]

does anyone know what the bestbuy Canada deal is for Blu-ray?

 

[Raistlin]

That Best Buy deal is insane, and it works online too. That's 9 free movies if you pick up the 3rd Gen A30. 2 in the box, 2 from Best Buy, and 5 in the mail-in offer. For $399. WOW.

When are the other Gen 3 models coming out?

I'm looking for one that has Reon (with full noise reduction control) ... or better yet Realta ... along with 23.976 output for DVD (not the currently gimped 24Hz output)?

If the price is right, and I can get a good number of HD DVD's ... I'm in.