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[Snah]

yeah i'm picking up ratatouille next week.

i liked nemo...is ratatouille better than that?

 

[neojubei]

yeah i'm picking up ratatouille next week.

i liked nemo...is ratatouille better than that?

Cool. Let me know how you like the movie and PQ.

 

[Argyle]

Wow, the A2 is surprisingly clunky. I already mentioned how slow and difficult for the end user the firmware updates are, but I was shocked by the 30 second boot times (from power button being hit to first image displayed on screen). Is the A2 a mini-PC the way the A1 was? Anyone know if the A3 is more responsive? I have one of those coming from Best Buy and I'm planning on giving one of the two away, so if anyone knows, that would be helpful...I know about the DTS/DD reencoding issue and it doesn't affect me or my dad (the recipient of the other player) since we both have HDMI receivers...

 

[chubigans]

yeah i'm picking up ratatouille next week.

i liked nemo...is ratatouille better than that?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I can't answer that. I will say it is exactly as good as Nemo, Incredibles, etc.

 

[Kolgar]

Wow, the A2 is surprisingly clunky. I already mentioned how slow and difficult for the end user the firmware updates are, but I was shocked by the 30 second boot times (from power button being hit to first image displayed on screen). Is the A2 a mini-PC the way the A1 was? Anyone know if the A3 is more responsive? I have one of those coming from Best Buy and I'm planning on giving one of the two away, so if anyone knows, that would be helpful...I know about the DTS/DD reencoding issue and it doesn't affect me or my dad (the recipient of the other player) since we both have HDMI receivers...

No firsthand experience, but from everything I've read, A2 and A3 are essentially the same except for audio output (I think A2 does DTS, the A3, DD5.1?) and styling.

Bootup times, etc., are very similar.

If you're having trouble with the firmware updates, there are some good threads at AVS to help you. (Essentially, turn DCHP and DNS *on* in the settings menu, then power off, wait a tick, power back on and you should be able to update via Ethernet. Or just call Toshiba and get a disc mailed to you, that's easy too.

 

[Argyle]

No firsthand experience, but from everything I've read, A2 and A3 are essentially the same except for audio output (I think A2 does DTS, the A3, DD5.1?) and styling.

Bootup times, etc., are very similar.

If you're having trouble with the firmware updates, there are some good threads at AVS to help you. (Essentially, turn DCHP and DNS *on* in the settings menu, then power off, wait a tick, power back on and you should be able to update via Ethernet. Or just call Toshiba and get a disc mailed to you, that's easy too.

I burned a CD and updated it that way (it still takes 20-30 minutes...not sure of the exact time because I walked away to do something else. Most of the time is spent on "step 5/5" with no progress meter) so I'm all good. I just think this is going to be something the average person struggles with. I think shipping the player with a static IP as default is really really stupid (unless they like talking to their consumers when they inevitably call for tech support

 

[Days like these...]

500K sold yesterday? Hardly. I think the number of A2s Wal-Mart may have moved yesterday is closer to 40K, max.

FWIW, there was a guy at AVS who got the 40K number from a Toshiba rep, or so he said.

WallyWorld + other vendors, maybe close to 50K, who knows.

Not bad for one day, but there's still work to be done. Perhaps just as important as the sell-through, however, is the shot in the arm HD DVD has received in consumer awareness. Every holiday, there are a handful of "hot items" that everyone talks about, and Toshiba seems to be working to make its format one of those.

I was guestimating 60k. 3000 walmarts x 20 per store. Any idea on how many movies were sold on friday? My local walmart was also sold out of the $15 titles.

 

[gkryhewy]

Holy crap:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9519

Sorry is this was posted, Im never in this thread.

Yep, they did that for me - posted it yesterday. Further, they told me on the phone that once it comes, I can take the packing slip/receipt to the store and pick out two other free discs 34.99 or less.

 

[VanMardigan]

I burned a CD and updated it that way (it still takes 20-30 minutes...not sure of the exact time because I walked away to do something else. Most of the time is spent on "step 5/5" with no progress meter) so I'm all good. I just think this is going to be something the average person struggles with. I think shipping the player with a static IP as default is really really stupid (unless they like talking to their consumers when they inevitably call for tech support

I think the person who buys a $99 HD DVD player likely won't bother updating it. As far as I know, only the web-enabled features stuff requires the newest firmware anyway, so they'll play all their discs just fine without having to update. Those that will be taking their discs online, however, will definitely have to go through that, so it sucks that the process isn't as painless as possible.

 

[mrklaw]

Wow, the A2 is surprisingly clunky. I already mentioned how slow and difficult for the end user the firmware updates are, but I was shocked by the 30 second boot times (from power button being hit to first image displayed on screen). Is the A2 a mini-PC the way the A1 was? Anyone know if the A3 is more responsive? I have one of those coming from Best Buy and I'm planning on giving one of the two away, so if anyone knows, that would be helpful...I know about the DTS/DD reencoding issue and it doesn't affect me or my dad (the recipient of the other player) since we both have HDMI receivers...

all standalones are pretty much like that.

 

[OokieSpookie]

Can anyone help me here?


Is there a website out there that focuses on Japanese Anime Blu Ray Movies?


I am looking for a list of all BD anime release and upcoming stuff too, but I cant find a good list anywhere

HALP!!

Play-asia.com or cdjapan.com are your best bets

 

[gray_fox224]

SO happy.
Just picked up Shinning and 2001. HD and Blu ray respectively

 

[dallow_bg]

I was guestimating 60k. 3000 walmarts x 20 per store. Any idea on how many movies were sold on friday? My local walmart was also sold out of the $15 titles.

Your Wal-Mart probably only had a handful of the $15 titles.

My Walmart only had 1 of them to start with.

 

[Days like these...]

SO happy.
Just picked up Shinning and 2001. HD and Blu ray respectively

I picked both of those up. I had never seen either one except for a little piece of The shining when I was kid. I loved The shining it creeped me out and I was watching it in broad daylight. 2001? Put me in the didn't like it, didn't 'get it' don't want to get it camp. Looks nice enough in HD that's for sure.

 

[gray_fox224]

I picked both of those up. I had never seen either one except for a little piece of The shining when I was kid. I loved The shining it creeped me out and I was watching it in broad daylight. 2001? Put me in the didn't like it, didn't 'get it' don't want to get it camp. Looks nice enough in HD that's for sure.

I'm still researching Clockwork and Full Metal. I'm late to the Kubrick bandwagon because of my age. Can anyone recommend these titles?

 

[Days like these...]

I'd definitely recomend Full Metal Jacket. Clockwork Orange I liked but definitely not for everyone.

 

[Kolgar]

Your Wal-Mart probably only had a handful of the $15 titles.

My Walmart only had 1 of them to start with.

Initially, I thought my Wal-Marts had scant HD DVD selections too.

THEN I talked to (woke up is more like it) a clerk who pointed me to a big red HD DVD cardboard display at the end of the aisle, down form the electronics dept. It had about 16 movies or so, many of them the $15 sales.

 

[gray_fox224]

I'd definitely recomend Full Metal Jacket. Clockwork Orange I liked but definitely not for everyone.

Thanks, I'm ordering now...

 

[YYZ]

wow, I just watched Shoot 'Em Up, what a fucking fantastic.....shoot 'em up :lol

If Hollywood had to make one last action movie then this would be it. I'm strongly considering getting this on BD when it comes out, depending on reviews, but I think it will be a top-notch release.

 

[LM4sure]

I have a better stat for you. The top ten grossing films this year, there are 6 yet to be released. Ratatouille, Bourne, Shrek, Simpsons, Harry Potter, Pirates. Only two of those are HD DVD exclusive, three are blu-ray and one is neutral. Oh and the top grossing film was released this week.
Your on crack or a blind idiotic fanboi if you think Ratatoille wont be at the top. Personally i think its both in your case.

One is neutral for now. The way things are going, it might end up hd-dvd exclusive.

Evidence?

Google is your friend, my man.

 

[LM4sure]

yeah i'm picking up ratatouille next week.

i liked nemo...is ratatouille better than that?

No, Ratatouille is nowhere near as good as finding Nemo. I think most will agree with that. In fact, I liked Ratatouille better the first time when it was called Flushed Away.

 

[captive]

One is neutral for now. The way things are going, it might end up hd-dvd exclusive.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Whatever helps you sleep at night, and makes you feel better about your purchasing habits.
And way to refute the stats instead of speculating about Warner going exclusive, yet again.

 

[OokieSpookie]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Whatever helps you sleep at night, and makes you feel better about your purchasing habits.

Cap, don't bother it really isn't worth it.
LM does not even have an HD player according to his own words and is just stirring shit up.

09-16-2007, 11:05 AM
Replies: 18,870
Bluray/HD-DVD: HD movie fan Suicide Watch
Views: 568,895
Posted By LM4sure
Wow. Hd-dvd has definitely cut into blu ray...

Wow. Hd-dvd has definitely cut into blu ray sales! Awesome. It looks like hd-dvd is gaining a lot of momentum. If this trend continues, I might actually buy an hd-dvd plaayer!!

 

[captive]

Cap, don't bother it really isn't worth it.
LM does not even have an HD player according to his own words and is just stirring shit up.

Thats even funnier than him trying to say that no one wants Ratatoille since it didnt do as well as better selling Pixar movies, even though the fact is even Wild Hogs, the number 10 grossing film this year sold extremely well despite the constant criticism of the movie. :lol

 

[Frankfurter]

I was guestimating 60k. 3000 walmarts x 20 per store. Any idea on how many movies were sold on friday? My local walmart was also sold out of the $15 titles.

Wouldn't ~40-60k be sth. like 10-15% of the total HD DVD user base so far? If so this definitely is a very, very huge amount (for HD DVD/Blu Ray).

 

[Bebpo]

No, Ratatouille is nowhere near as good as finding Nemo. I think most will agree with that. In fact, I liked Ratatouille better the first time when it was called Flushed Away.

Ratatouille is much better than Finding Nemo or The Incredibles. It's up there with Toy Story and Monsters Inc IMO.

 

[maharg]

Wow, the A2 is surprisingly clunky. I already mentioned how slow and difficult for the end user the firmware updates are, but I was shocked by the 30 second boot times (from power button being hit to first image displayed on screen). Is the A2 a mini-PC the way the A1 was? Anyone know if the A3 is more responsive? I have one of those coming from Best Buy and I'm planning on giving one of the two away, so if anyone knows, that would be helpful...I know about the DTS/DD reencoding issue and it doesn't affect me or my dad (the recipient of the other player) since we both have HDMI receivers...

I just leave mine on all the time. Otherwise my remote has to be programmed with ungodly delays. Once it's on the disc load time isn't too bad. Pretty snappy for DVDs and not much worse for HD-DVDs. I'm glad it doesn't turn itself off after lack of use like the DVD player I replaced with it.

 

[The Main Event]

Pre-ordered Ratatouille a few weeks ago.

Saw it in theater, great movie. Should look outstanding too.

 

[OokieSpookie]

Pre-ordered Ratatouille a few weeks ago.

Saw it in theater, great movie. Should look outstanding too.

I will definitely be picking it up.
I honestly did not give it a chance at all in the theater and then all of the sudden everyone was talking about how good it was :lol

 

[Battlezone]

Yep, they did that for me - posted it yesterday. Further, they told me on the phone that once it comes, I can take the packing slip/receipt to the store and pick out two other free discs 34.99 or less.

Sweet. I was wondering if they'd do that.

 

[Grimmy]

No, Ratatouille is nowhere near as good as finding Nemo. I think most will agree with that. In fact, I liked Ratatouille better the first time when it was called Flushed Away.

WHAT
No.Way.In.Hell. is that statement true. Ratatouille is fantastic. Flushed Away is so mediocre.

 

[Argyle]

I just leave mine on all the time. Otherwise my remote has to be programmed with ungodly delays. Once it's on the disc load time isn't too bad. Pretty snappy for DVDs and not much worse for HD-DVDs. I'm glad it doesn't turn itself off after lack of use like the DVD player I replaced with it.

Good lord, I hadn't even started to set it up with my Harmony remote yet...

It's not a bad idea, but I wonder how much power it draws turned on. Anyone know what's inside this thing?

 

[VanMardigan]

So what movies have you seen Argyle? Any impressions? Have you tried any HDi features that aren't available on BR yet?

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

:lol @ LM4sure.

OK, Rataoillie won't move discs, despite being over 200M at the box office!

I suppose we're goingto find out the other Blu-exclusive releases for the rest of the year will underperfrom as well! Unless the suddenly become HD-DVD exclusive!

 

[Argyle]

So what movies have you seen Argyle? Any impressions? Have you tried any HDi features that aren't available on BR yet?

No discs yet. But I'm getting an A3 from Best Buy soon that will have 300/Bourne Identity packed in, plus I'm working on their customer service to see if I can get the two movies I was supposed to get with it (I ordered it straight up from the website, not knowing about that deal)...thinking of getting Transformers/Bourne Supremacy with it.

There are a bunch of HD DVDs on my Netflix queue now but I need to watch the BDs I have now, as well as prioritize my queue...

 

[bigmakstudios]

500K sold yesterday? Hardly. I think the number of A2s Wal-Mart may have moved yesterday is closer to 40K, max.

Wow, seriously? If a $100 price only sells 40,000 units of HD-DVD players in a day, then I don't think either format is anywhere near being relevant as a media platform for mainstream consumers. Could someone please convince me otherwise? >_> I would really like to get one before Christmas, but the prospect of a format becoming obsolete within months is enough to keep me away.

 

[Raistlin]

Wow, that is really poor damage control. These things are selling out regardless of a typo. :lol

Ummm ... I said they would in my original post that you conveniently only quoted part of.

 

[Forsete]

I did some checkin'

RATATOUILLE
Domestic Total as of Nov. 1, 2007: $205,375,053
(Worldwide: $553,537,364 )

300
Domestic Total Gross: $210,614,939
(Worldwide: $456,068,181 )

Rat cant move disks ay? 300 has only managed to drag in 5 million more in the US (but almost 100 million less WW), yet it is the best selling HD movie out there if I recall?

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Wow, seriously? If a $100 price only sells 40,000 units of HD-DVD players in a day, then I don't think either format is anywhere near being relevant as a media platform for mainstream consumers. Could someone please convince me otherwise? >_> I would really like to get one before Christmas, but the prospect of a format becoming obsolete within months is enough to keep me away.

That's based on what was available. They were selling out everywhere, pretty much.

 

[VanMardigan]

I did some checkin'

RATATOUILLE
Domestic Total as of Nov. 1, 2007: $205,375,053
(Worldwide: $553,537,364 )

300
Domestic Total Gross: $210,614,939
(Worldwide: $456,068,181 )

Rat cant move disks ay? 300 has only managed to drag in 5 million more in the US (but almost 100 million less WW), yet it is the best selling HD movie out there if I recall?

300 is a MUCH MUCH better fit for the Ps3 demographic. I expect Rat to do very well, for sure, but not as well as 300.

 

[Raistlin]

What is Sony doing then?

Not taking massive losses on HW.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

300 is a MUCH MUCH better fit for the Ps3 demographic. I expect Rat to do very well, for sure, but not as well as 300.

Point made, though-- Ratt will do very well. LM4sure was talking it down.


Day One purchase for me, even Spidey wasn't (haven't picked it up yet).

 

[OokieSpookie]

Wow, seriously? If a $100 price only sells 40,000 units of HD-DVD players in a day, then I don't think either format is anywhere near being relevant as a media platform for mainstream consumers. Could someone please convince me otherwise? >_> I would really like to get one before Christmas, but the prospect of a format becoming obsolete within months is enough to keep me away.

None of that matters to be real about it.
Until one format wins, high def media will always be a niche thing no matter how cheap players get.
Too many people refuse to get involved when you have to have one format to get Pirates of the Caribbean and a second format to get Star Trek.
When there is one format, player price wouldn't even matter and you will see it skyrocket.

 

[VanMardigan]

Not taking massive losses on HW.

You have data to back this up? Because the widening losses at their gaming division seem to contradict that.

Day One purchase for me, even Spidey wasn't (haven't picked it up yet).

I didn't think either movie was very good, to tell you the truth, but my love for Spidey 1 and 2, plus my love for Pixar movies, meant I'd buy both of them if my Ps3 had arrived. Probably would've waited for a sale on both of those. Cars would've been day 1 for me, though.

 

[thaivo]

Wow.. Fry's is selling the A3 for $99
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=933155

 

[OokieSpookie]

300 is a MUCH MUCH better fit for the Ps3 demographic. I expect Rat to do very well, for sure, but not as well as 300.

I seriously wish you would stop with the whole "PS3 demographic" thing.
No offense but it is utter bullshit and opinion.
Mainly for two reasons which are A) Bluray is more than the PS3 and B) the movie tastes are just too varied.
There is no one demographic to either side and it is tiring to see people trying to trivialize it.
I know you are not meaning anything negative when you say it but it keeps coming up.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

You have data to back this up? Because the widening losses at their gaming division seem to contradict that.



I didn't think either movie was very good, to tell you the truth, but my love for Spidey 1 and 2, plus my love for Pixar movies, meant I'd buy both of them if my Ps3 had arrived. Probably would've waited for a sale on both of those. Cars would've been day 1 for me, though.

Cars, IMHO, is the weakest Pixar. It's the only one I didn't get day one on DVD. Since I didn't already buy it, I'll get it on Blu.

Rat. on the other hand, was fanatastic. I loved it. I thought the humor was great, and the ending was perfect.

Spider-Man 3, OTOH, is more a guilty pleasure. I'll pick it up soon, but not in a hurry. I did rent it already, so I don't need to have it now.

 

[OokieSpookie]

Cars, IMHO, is the weakest Pixar. It's the only one I didn't get day one on DVD. Since I didn't already buy it, I'll get it on Blu.

Rat. on the other hand, was fanatastic. I loved it. I thought the humor was great, and the ending was perfect.

Spider-Man 3, OTOH, is more a guilty pleasure. I'll pick it up soon, but not in a hurry. I did rent it already, so I don't need to have it now.

Yeah I have to confess that I have no interest in Cars.
If I had children I am sure it would be different because friends of mine who have small children have numerous Cars stuff all over the floor :lol

 

[djkimothy]

I watched Cars the day my EX dumped me for someone else. So I really have no care for the film. :lol

Ratatouille though is awesome. And I've bookmarked LM4sure's post for when the sales data for Ratatouille comes in.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Kids is part of the interest. Cars is my least favorite Pixar (still OK) but I am sure it will be a hit with my son.