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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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OokieSpookie

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yacobod said:
i mean lets go back to about a month or two ago when it was announced that transformers was hd dvd exclusive

the amount of bitter tears and QQ coming from the bluray grp was legendary, lets not go back digging up old threads

now they find solace in the fact that it underperformed at 190k or w/e :lol
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And what about all of the HD shills who appeared out of nowhere gloating and swearing that HD now won and that it would change the tide and that Transformers would crush blu.
And ....oh wait...it didn't and no matter how much Paramount wanted to lie about the numbers it didn't change it.
Seriously cut the trolling and baiting bullshit.
 
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yacobod

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OokieSpookie said:
And what about all of the HD shills who appeared out of nowhere gloating and swearing that HD now won and that it would change the tide and that Transformers would crush blu.
And ....oh wait...it didn't and no matter how much Paramount wanted to lie about the numbers it didn't change it.
Seriously cut the trolling and baiting bullshit.
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honestly i could care less, i own both formats, and have 20+ movies for each format, i can post pics of my collection if anyone wants to see them

i listed 190k because thats what i read in this thread, if that number is PR bullshit, then i stand corrected

i'm not so emotionally invested into this format war as some posters in this tread, i dont have stock w/sony or toshiba, if either format fails no sweat, i like watching movies in HD, and owning both formats gives me the flexibility to buy the movies that i want

and shit since August i've been buying Warner releases on Bluray, i just get HD-DVD exclusives at this point

guys are so militant in this thread
 
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dallow_bg

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yacobod said:
honestly i could care less, i own both formats, and have 20+ movies for each format, i can post pics of my collection if anyone wants to see them

i listed 190k because thats what i read in this thread, if that number is PR bullshit, then i stand corrected

i'm not so emotionally invested into this format war as some posters in this tread, i dont have stock w/sony or toshiba, if either format fails no sweat, i like watching movies in HD, and owning both formats gives me the flexibility to buy the movies that i want

and shit since August i've been buying Warner releases on Bluray, i just get HD-DVD exclusives at this point

guys are so militant in this thread
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Neutral folks just prolong the format war.
Though I'm glad you buy Warner on BD. Hopefully they'll switch over early next year and we'll be that much closer to being done with this thread once and for all.
 
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OokieSpookie

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yacobod said:
honestly i could care less, i own both formats, and have 20+ movies for each format, i can post pics of my collection if anyone wants to see them

i listed 190k because thats what i read in this thread, if that number is PR bullshit, then i stand corrected

i'm not so emotionally invested into this format war as some posters in this tread, i dont have stock w/sony or toshiba, if either format fails no sweat, i like watching movies in HD, and owning both formats gives me the flexibility to buy the movies that i want

and shit since August i've been buying Warner releases on Bluray, i just get HD-DVD exclusives at this point

guys are so militant in this thread
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How can you say that at all, you are not new to this thread.
We do a better job than any other forum on here at keeping the trolling and bullshit to a minimum.
It happens and then it gets dealt with.
But then you come in and make a full on trolling post and then turn around and talk shit about the thread?
 
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yacobod

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OokieSpookie said:
How can you say that at all, you are not new to this thread.
We do a better job than any other forum on here at keeping the trolling and bullshit to a minimum.
It happens and then it gets dealt with.
But then you come in and make a full on trolling post and then turn around and talk shit about the thread?
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OK!
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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dallow_bg said:
Neutral folks just prolong the format war.
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IF YOU'RE NOT WITH US, YOU'RE AGAINST US!

IF YOU AREN'T PART OF THE SOLUTION, YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

(*goes to occupy administration buildings*)

My god, I think this thread has finally crossed my absurdity threshhold. Between Van's conniptions today, near-hourly trolls and the regular Blu guys getting more and more wound (me included)... I dunno... :lol
 
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dallow_bg

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Ignatz Mouse said:
IF YOU'RE NOT WITH US, YOU'RE AGAINST US!

IF YOU AREN'T PART OF THE SOLUTION, YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

(*goes to occupy administration buildings*)

My god, I think this thread has finally crossed my absurdity threshhold. Between Van's conniptions today, near-hourly trolls and the regular Blu guys getting more and more wound (me included)... I dunno... :lol
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So they don't prolong the format war. Makes sense, along with combo players.
 
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OokieSpookie

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Ignatz Mouse said:
IF YOU'RE NOT WITH US, YOU'RE AGAINST US!

IF YOU AREN'T PART OF THE SOLUTION, YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

(*goes to occupy administration buildings*)

My god, I think this thread has finally crossed my absurdity threshhold. Between Van's conniptions today, near-hourly trolls and the regular Blu guys getting more and more wound (me included)... I dunno... :lol
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I think it has alot to do with anticipation of thursday/friday's numbers.
 
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yacobod

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wonder how many posts before the thread gets locked

a meltdown of epic proportions will happen eventually

i mean it cant last forever, can it?
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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dallow_bg said:
So they don't prolong the format war. Makes sense, along with combo players.
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I made no assertions... but just consider what you are saying. You're turning a consumer act (buying both platforms to get all the movies you want to see) into a political act (prolonging the format war). You think people ought to take noble stands or something?

I'm not avoiding HD-DVD out of loyalty to the war, I'm doing it because oI presume it'll leave me with a stack of obsolete discs after some amount of time. Neutral people have already said why that isn't a concern for them, and who is to tell them otherwise?
 
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dallow_bg

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Mifune said:
Is the BR Ratatouille on sale anywhere? I just went to Best Buy and was disappointed to see it going for $29.99 list.
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23.95 at Amazon. 24.99 at Frys.

There's some kind of deal where you get 10 off when buying Cars and Rat at Amazon as well. Comes out to about 33.xx total.
 
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dallow_bg

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Ignatz Mouse said:
I made no assertions... but just consider what you are saying. You're turning a consumer act (buying both platforms to get all the movies you want to see) into a political act (prolonging the format war). You think people ought to take noble stands or something?

I'm not avoiding HD-DVD out of loyalty to the war, I'm doing it because oI presume it'll leave me with a stack of obsolete discs after some amount of time. Neutral people have already said why that isn't a concern for them, and who is to tell them otherwise?
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I'll tell it to the ones who come in and bitch about one side or the other.
If there were only one format, things would be cake, and we'd only be discussing PQ and AQ in this thread.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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dallow_bg said:
I'll tell it to the ones who come in and bitch about one side or the other.
If there were only one format, things would be cake, and we'd only be discussing PQ and AQ in this thread.
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And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass a-hopping.*

I want one format as much as anybody and more than most, but that's not the fact, today. Even though I am certain that if only wins, it'll be Blu, it hasn't happened yet.

* As-of yet unreleased WB movie.
 
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OokieSpookie

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dallow_bg said:
So they don't prolong the format war. Makes sense, along with combo players.
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I own both formats and I still very much agree that dual format prolongs the war.
I back Blu and will continue to do so.
But I also do not and have no intention of buying any movies on HD ( unless some miracle release hits).
I have Heroes, Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead and Batman Begins. (Plus the free movies whenever those actually ever show up)
One side HAS to win in 2008 or both are doomed.
 
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Jeff-DSA

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dallow_bg said:
I'll tell it to the ones who come in and bitch about one side or the other.
If there were only one format, things would be cake, and we'd only be discussing PQ and AQ in this thread.
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If there were only one format people would be fighting the HD vs upconvert fight. If there were only one format players would still be $700 and up (aside from the PS3). Blu-ray had its hand forced by HD-DVD and vice versa. This "war" is what is making these things somewhat affordable.

I have both, by the way. I do, however, want to see HD-DVD win out in the end. Don't ask me why, I don't care to explain to anybody, it's just the reality of things. If BD wins, that's fine, I'm already set anyway.
 
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yacobod

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Ignatz Mouse said:
I'm not avoiding HD-DVD out of loyalty to the war, I'm doing it because oI presume it'll leave me with a stack of obsolete discs after some amount of time. Neutral people have already said why that isn't a concern for them, and who is to tell them otherwise?
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i probably have 200+ dvds that i've picked up in the last 8-9 years, as far as im concerned they are already obsolete, sure i might watch some from time to time, but i've stopped purchasing dvds sometime last year, some movies that i own on dvd i have bought on one of the new HD formats, other movies i will not buy again and skip, it will be a case by case thing

and in another 8-10 years or w/e, a new format will come out and render the current ones obsolete, its the nature of the beast

how many ppl are still watching their VHS or Laserdisc movies?

its the same thing, or at least thats my stance on the issue
 
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OokieSpookie

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yacobod said:
wonder how many posts before the thread gets locked

a meltdown of epic proportions will happen eventually

i mean it cant last forever, can it?
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It will not close until one side is left.
There is no reason to.
There are people on both in this thread who irritate the shit out of me, and there are some that just irritate me sometimes.
I know I irritate the shit out of alot of people in this thread also.
The difference is that so far people are mature enough to have healthy though sometimes heated debates.
Now and then there are asshats who jump in out of nowhere trying to start shit, and they are usually obvious about it and banned pretty quickly.
This is not the gaming forum, people generally do not have the overt hard ons just to irritate other people in here like they do there.
 
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dallow_bg

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Sad.

I don't need extra hardware, and the movies out currently on both formats barely warrant an extra player in my opinion.

I'd say there are less than 20 titles on both formats that I truly care about.
Slim pickin's and sales have made me a little less of a film snob so I've picked up titles I'd never buy on DVD.

More catalog titles please.
My opinion, my opinion.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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I don't consider my DVDs obsolete, and unless there's some guarantee that even if one format dominates, the other will be included and combos players will become defacto standard, I don't want to stock up on them. But I appreciate that not everybody feels this way.
 
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dallow_bg

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Ignatz Mouse said:
I don't consider my DVDs obsolete, and unless there's some guarantee that even if one format dominates, the other will be included and combos players will become defacto standard, I don't want to stock up on them. But I appreciate that not everybody feels this way.
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But Ookie agrees with me! :|
However, I can wait for the few HD DVD titles I want to see.

EDIT: I don't consider my DVDs obsolete either.
Not in the same way my VHS collection quickly became.
 
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dallow_bg

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OokieSpookie said:
I was thinking about it, I would give anything for Fox to release X-Files on Blu to hype the new X-Files movie.
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Kinda hard though unless they go the extra mile.

The first 5 seasons I've read, were shot on film, but edited in video.
They'd have to get the original film, and re-edit exactly as it once was.

Then they'd have to figure out how to redo all the special effects.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Jeff-DSA said:
I have both, by the way. I do, however, want to see HD-DVD win out in the end. Don't ask me why, I don't care to explain to anybody, it's just the reality of things. If BD wins, that's fine, I'm already set anyway.
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This is like begging to be asked. WHy weigh in if not willing to explain yourself?
 
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Flo_Evans

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Kind of strange, I have no problem buying proprietary media for game consoles with a bleak future (dreamcast was the shit!) but I am pretty reluctant to take on another movie format.
 
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dallow_bg

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Flo_Evans said:
Kind of strange, I have no problem buying proprietary media for game consoles with a bleak future (dreamcast was the shit!) but I am pretty reluctant to take on another movie format.
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That's because it's pretty much the only way to get it.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Flo_Evans said:
Kind of strange, I have no problem buying proprietary media for game consoles with a bleak future (dreamcast was the shit!) but I am pretty reluctant to take on another movie format.
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Ditto, but the number of games I play that are 10 years old or older pales compared to the number of movies I wathc that are that old. And even still, those game systems don;t stay hooked up, and I emulate where possible.
 
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Jeff-DSA

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Ignatz Mouse said:
This is like begging to be asked. WHy weigh in if not willing to explain yourself?
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Mostly because I don't want to ignite anything, but I'll give a few points (not looking for counterpoints here, as I refuse to start a fight. Actually, go ahead and counterpoint it, but I don't want to argue).

The way BD entered the market - Very expensive and with gimped players that can't be updated.
Lots of FUD about the necessity of capacity - HD-DVDs are just fine with the storage they have
Java - Java
Less of a focus on catalog support - I love new releases, but I want to see a commitment to catalog from the get go
Price - HD-DVD became consumer friendly WAY faster
General preference - Something about HD-DVD just makes me like it. It's intangible and inexplicable. It's stupid, but it's there. I just like HD-DVD more.
 
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dallow_bg

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Jeff-DSA said:
Mostly because I don't want to ignite anything, but I'll give a few points (not looking for counterpoints here, as I refuse to start a fight. Actually, go ahead and counterpoint it, but I don't want to argue).

The way BD entered the market - Very expensive and with gimped players that can't be updated.
Lots of FUD about the necessity of capacity - HD-DVDs are just fine with the storage they have
Java - Java
Less of a focus on catalog support - I love new releases, but I want to see a commitment to catalog from the get go
Price - HD-DVD became consumer friendly WAY faster
General preference - Something about HD-DVD just makes me like it. It's intangible and inexplicable. It's stupid, but it's there. I just like HD-DVD more.
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Fair enough.
 
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Bebpo

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So as a follow-up to when I was bitching about Amazon being sold-out all the time lately during the Kubrick week, I placed my pre-order for Ratatouille and the other 2 Pixar discs with hopes 2 weeks would be enough time to get it shipped on day 1.

Well I got a shipping e-mail today that Cars and the Shorts Collection shipped today and will arrive next Tuesday and Ratatouille is back-ordered and hopefully will ship by next week and arrive the week after.

:\
 
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SUPREME1

Banned
Jeff-DSA said:
Mostly because I don't want to ignite anything, but I'll give a few points (not looking for counterpoints here, as I refuse to start a fight. Actually, go ahead and counterpoint it, but I don't want to argue).

The way BD entered the market - Very expensive and with gimped players that can't be updated.
Lots of FUD about the necessity of capacity - HD-DVDs are just fine with the storage they have
Java - Java
Less of a focus on catalog support - I love new releases, but I want to see a commitment to catalog from the get go
Price - HD-DVD became consumer friendly WAY faster
General preference - Something about HD-DVD just makes me like it. It's intangible and inexplicable. It's stupid, but it's there. I just like HD-DVD more.
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You like the color red?
 
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SUPREME1

Banned
Bebpo said:
So as a follow-up to when I was bitching about Amazon being sold-out all the time lately during the Kubrick week, I placed my pre-order for Ratatouille and the other 2 Pixar discs with hopes 2 weeks would be enough time to get it shipped on day 1.

Well I got a shipping e-mail today that Cars and the Shorts Collection shipped today and will arrive next Tuesday and Ratatouille is back-ordered and hopefully will ship by next week and arrive the week after.

:\
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o_O

Laaame.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Jeff-DSA said:
Mostly because I don't want to ignite anything, but I'll give a few points (not looking for counterpoints here, as I refuse to start a fight. Actually, go ahead and counterpoint it, but I don't want to argue).

The way BD entered the market - Very expensive and with gimped players that can't be updated.
Lots of FUD about the necessity of capacity - HD-DVDs are just fine with the storage they have
Java - Java
Less of a focus on catalog support - I love new releases, but I want to see a commitment to catalog from the get go
Price - HD-DVD became consumer friendly WAY faster
General preference - Something about HD-DVD just makes me like it. It's intangible and inexplicable. It's stupid, but it's there. I just like HD-DVD more.
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I see. I don't agree with a bunch of it, and some of it seems like it's either not true anymore or changing, but I get your point. The only one I would argue with is price-- the software, on average, is cheaper on Blu and that makes a big difference in the long run.
 
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Jeff-DSA

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Ignatz Mouse said:
I see. I don't agree with a bunch of it, and some of it seems like it's either not true anymore or changing, but I get your point. The only one I would argue with is price-- the software, on average, is cheaper on Blu and that makes a big difference in the long run.
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Right, and I have both, so I'll go with the cheaper option. I don't want to see HD-DVD win so badly that I'd pay more for it. It's not a passion, just a preference.
 
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dallow_bg

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Jeff-DSA said:
Right, and I have both, so I'll go with the cheaper option. I don't want to see HD-DVD win so badly that I'd pay more for it. It's not a passion, just a preference.
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Well that's good.
for BD ;)
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Didn't Warner drop the combo discs? They re-released a bunch of their combo discs as single sided and priced them in line with the Blu Ray versions. Cause that's the only way the HD DVD would be more expensive on a neutral release.

Obviously, the combo discs are meant to ease folks into HD adoption. Whether that works or not is debatable, but it does cause HD DVD movie prices to average higher. I don't forsee combo discs beyond this year, though. Paramount/Dreamworks don't seem fond of them, WB did the non combo re-releases, and Universal seems to be the only one still on the bandwagon, so software pricing will eventually be even.
 
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