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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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mollipen

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OokieSpookie said:
Actually there is nothing even close to similar between them.
The Bride with White Hair is a romeo and juliet type story about love, betrayal and promises with great action mixed in.
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Ignore him, he was obviously just trying to be cute.
 
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OokieSpookie

Banned
Words can not describe how impressed that I am with Close Encounters.
The picture quality is breathtaking especially when you realize how old the movie is.
Little things light textures and lighting, to pure visual spectacle.
 
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XMonkey

lacks enthusiasm.
I wouldn't order anything from the Warner store, no matter how good the deal. They haven't even shipped my Kubrick Blurays that I pre-ordered well over 2 months ago.
 
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Christoff Yurievich

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Dear bune duggy,
Thank you for your recent order. Unfortunately, we are sorry to inform you that there will be a delay in shipping the following back ordered item(s).

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shit.

I'll pick up CEot3K in the meantime. I honestly didn't know it was $45 until I looked at the box today. Wow.
 
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Warm Machine

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OokieSpookie said:
Words can not describe how impressed that I am with Close Encounters.
The picture quality is breathtaking especially when you realize how old the movie is.
Little things light textures and lighting, to pure visual spectacle.
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Anything from the 70s with a budget should look really great.
 
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Meier

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Shoho said:
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has anyone seen this on high def?


holy smokes. Hero is one of the most amazing beautiful films I have ever seen. Seeing this on HD might actually kill me from the visual thrill! OMG!
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As a film, Hero was one of the biggest disappointments for me.. well ever, but visually it's second to none. This in hi-def seems like it'll be the ultimate showpiece.
 
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maharg

idspispopd
OokieSpookie said:
Makes me want to get this war over with even sooner so Lucas can show us his toys.
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I don't buy that 'the war' is lucas' inhibition. It took him how long to jump on the DVD bandwagon? That war was long over when he decided to pick a side.
 
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OokieSpookie

Banned
maharg said:
I don't buy that 'the war' is lucas' inhibition. It took him how long to jump on the DVD bandwagon? That war was long over when he decided to pick a side.
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You could be quite right, I mean he does things unfortunately when he wants to.
 
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Rhindle

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Rabid Wolverine said:
Anyone here have A Clockwork Orange on Blu/HD-DVD?

Is the transfer sub-par as most are saying?

Havent seen the movie yet, wondering if I should purchase the HD, or rent the DVD if the transfer is bad.
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It's not nearly as impressive as the 2001 disc, but it's still quite good considering the age of the movie.

The picture is quite soft and occasionally somewhat jittery, but that's probably a result of the quality of print. It's still a significant improvement over the DVD.
 
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aktham

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Cheesemeister said:
Thinking about jumping into the BD market. Have the Pirates movies been fixed for their framing issues? I don't want to see the ground in rafter fights or faces chopped off.
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This is the most overblown thing I've seen in recent memory and it's one of the reasons I hate the internet (but the good reason to love the internet overshadow that). I watched the movie before i knew about the problem and after. I really takes someone with no life to notice such a thing and make a big deal about it. It takes nothing away from the movie as a whole. Watch any movie and you'll see some characters head or part of it cut off.
 
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purnoman3000

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I'm getting real tired of waiting for the Kubrick Blu-Ray's in Canada? Where the hell are they and why do all the stores have HD-DVD copies but not the BR. Did they not realize it was on BRD as well and forgot to order. Fuck.
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
So is this how the BDA gets back at Paramount for going HD DVD exclusive? By holding a BOGO sale every time that Paramount/Dreamworks has a big release out? :lol

I'll tell you what, it works, and it rocks for the consumers (I just bought my first two BDs). Still, it's amusing how these large companies go at each other.
 
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borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
aktham said:
This is the most overblown thing I've seen in recent memory and it's one of the reasons I hate the internet (but the good reason to love the internet overshadow that). I watched the movie before i knew about the problem and after. I really takes someone with no life to notice such a thing and make a big deal about it. It takes nothing away from the movie as a whole. Watch any movie and you'll see some characters head or part of it cut off.
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not sure about Pirates, but on the first pressing of BttF2 on DVD the framing kind of made a scene slightly more awkward. It was where Doc handed Marty the jacket with sleeves way too long. Marty puts on the jacket after which we all remember that the jacket autofits to marty's arms. However the framing on the first DVDs was too high and cutoff the bottom portion where the sleeves adjusted. So what is basically looked like was that Doc gave marty a jacket that was too large, and next time you see him the jacket fits fine.

Not saying I disagree with you. Most of the time framing differences are picking nits at best. Just saying there can be times where bad framing has at least some effect on the movie.
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
VanMardigan said:
So is this how the BDA gets back at Paramount for going HD DVD exclusive? By holding a BOGO sale every time that Paramount/Dreamworks has a big release out? :lol

I'll tell you what, it works, and it rocks for the consumers (I just bought my first two BDs). Still, it's amusing how these large companies go at each other.
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I think the more likely scenario is they will do this for every major HDDVD exclusive release so they can tout "we won every week for the last x weeks". I would expect something similar to this when Bourne and Star Trek come out.
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
So is it an 8 second framing issue or an 8 minute framing issue? There seem to be conflicting reports in this thread. I'm getting PoTC 2 for buying the Ps3, but I'm reluctant to get the first one because of these framing issues. If it's 8 seconds, I won't care, but 8 minutes worth of heads cut off etc. is significant.

I think the more likely scenario is they will do this for every major HDDVD exclusive release so they can tout "we won every week for the last x weeks". I would expect something similar to this when Bourne and Star Trek come out.
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So I guess they have to extend this week's deal to next week then. Awesome for me.
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
aktham said:
This is the most overblown thing I've seen in recent memory and it's one of the reasons I hate the internet (but the good reason to love the internet overshadow that). I watched the movie before i knew about the problem and after. I really takes someone with no life to notice such a thing and make a big deal about it. It takes nothing away from the movie as a whole. Watch any movie and you'll see some characters head or part of it cut off.
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The issue with this one is two fold:

1) not the directors intent. To OAR/directors intent people like myself, this is a big deal.

2) In the rafter fight, if you can see the ground, it ruins the illusion that they are actually fighting in the rafters. It would be akin to seeing a wire in a kung fu movie. Yes, I know they werent really fighting in the rafters, but being able to suspend disbelief is crucial.

Its not a huge deal, and certainly not as bad as the cut of twister where you can see the boom mics, but its a really really dumb mistake..
 
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B-Ri

Member
VanMardigan said:
So is this how the BDA gets back at Paramount for going HD DVD exclusive? By holding a BOGO sale every time that Paramount/Dreamworks has a big release out? :lol

I'll tell you what, it works, and it rocks for the consumers (I just bought my first two BDs). Still, it's amusing how these large companies go at each other.
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WOW........


so because its near christmas and amazon does a BOGO sale, you laugh at their "desperation"


you do realize about $200 dollars worth of software was being given out with $100 players that were already drastically price cut with revenue loss per each sold?

STFU.
 
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DoubleTap

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B-Ri said:
WOW........


so because its near christmas and amazon does a BOGO sale, you laugh at their "desperation"


you do realize about $200 dollars worth of software was being given out with $100 players that were already drastically price cut with revenue loss per each sold?

STFU.
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Wow, talk about reading too much into it. I realize Van is on the red side but I thought his asessment was fair. I didn't see anything relating to "desperation" until you brought it up. You need to chill out.
 
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Christoff Yurievich

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B-Ri said:
WOW........


so because its near christmas and amazon does a BOGO sale, you laugh at their "desperation"


you do realize about $200 dollars worth of software was being given out with $100 players that were already drastically price cut with revenue loss per each sold?

STFU.
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quotation marks imply you are quoting someone. Hmm, what does Merriam-Webster say about the definition of a quote?
Main Entry:
1quote Listen to the pronunciation of 1quote
Pronunciation:
\ˈkwōt also ˈkōt\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
quot·ed; quot·ing
Etymology:
Medieval Latin quotare to mark the number of, number references, from Latin quotus of what number or quantity, from quot how many, (as) many as; akin to Latin qui who — more at who
Date:
1582

transitive verb1 a: to speak or write (a passage) from another usually with credit acknowledgment b: to repeat a passage from especially in substantiation or illustration c: borrow 2a <quoting the motifs of past artists>2: to cite in illustration <quote cases of similar acts>3 a: to state (the current price or bid-offer spread) for a commodity, stock, or bond b: to give exact information on4: to set off by quotation marksintransitive verb: to inform a hearer or reader that matter following is quoted
— quot·er noun
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yet he didn't write a word that even looks like desperation. hmm. touchy, aren't we?
 
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Naked Snake

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EviLore said:
2001 Blu-Ray was pretty astonishing.
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Doesn't it make some special effects, props and sets look fake or stand out due to the extra clarity? I haven't seen it, but I keep thinking that there has to be a negative side to watching such an old movie in a high definition perfect transfer... I'd like to be told that I'm wrong :)
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Not really a problem. The effects are simple, and Kubrick was very anal about visuals, so it all looks great.

It looks less dated to me than Star Wars *or* Star Wars SE.
 
Chiggs

Chiggs

Gold Member
Naked Snake said:
Doesn't it make some special effects, props and sets look fake or stand out due to the extra clarity? I haven't seen it, but I keep thinking that there has to be a negative side to watching such an old movie in a high definition perfect transfer... I'd like to be told that I'm wrong :)
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You might notice some front projection, but nothing too damning, IMO.
 
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Kolgar

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VanMardigan said:
So is this how the BDA gets back at Paramount for going HD DVD exclusive? By holding a BOGO sale every time that Paramount/Dreamworks has a big release out? :lol

I'll tell you what, it works, and it rocks for the consumers (I just bought my first two BDs). Still, it's amusing how these large companies go at each other.
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It's good for consumers, but I wonder if it's counterproductive to Blu-ray as a format.

Really, the big reason studios want a successor to DVD is so they can resell their libraries all over again, reaping new profits along the way. I don't see how giving your discs away is consistent with that goal. Sure, Sony can subsidize these sales, but for how long?

What's the goal? To pad Blu's numbers during the weeks of big HD DVD releases? To encourage the largely untapped market of PS3 users to become Blu-ray buyers?

If it's the former, I think the studios can see through it. If it's the latter, I think that speaks to a current weakness in the format, an inevitable result of building a movie format with a game console.

Studios want to sell discs, not give them away. To studios, sales numbers don't mean much (especially numbers as small as these) if the profits aren't there as well.

That's why I think that if these companies are going to give anything away, it should be the hardware. More hardware in people's hands means more software sold by the studios which is what they want and why they're supporting these formats in the first place.
 
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Argyle

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Kolgar said:
It's good for consumers, but I wonder if it's counterproductive to Blu-ray as a format.

Really, the big reason studios want a successor to DVD is so they can resell their libraries all over again, reaping new profits along the way. I don't see how giving your discs away is consistent with that goal. Sure, Sony can subsidize these sales, but for how long?

What's the goal? To pad Blu's numbers during the weeks of big HD DVD releases? To encourage the largely untapped market of PS3 users to become Blu-ray buyers?

If it's the former, I think the studios can see through it. If it's the latter, I think that speaks to a current weakness in the format, an inevitable result of building a movie format with a game console.

Studios want to sell discs, not give them away. To studios, sales numbers don't mean much (especially numbers as small as these) if the profits aren't there as well.
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Ahh, you've flipped the "$100 HD DVD players were a bad move" script around! Clever.

Yes, I think it is largely to hit the PS3 owners who have never watched a Blu-ray movie on their machine.

You could also make the argument that a format whose owners are a bunch of cheapskates who waited for a $100 player aren't going to splurge on $35-$40 combo discs. :)

And in the end, movie sales numbers mean everything to the studios because they sell movies, not hardware...It's the only metric that matters. Sure, they know which weeks have been padded but it's pretty clear who's ahead right now.
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
dallow_bg said:
Shrek 3 HD DVD is tanking.
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The numbers are out, or are you saying you think it'll tank?

Only in GAF where a BOGO sale is a bad thing. I swear...
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It's a wonderful thing for consumers, just like a $100 HD DVD player. I definitely never intended to make it seem negative, I don't know how that got twisted by that one idiot poster. In fact, I took advantage to it. I was merely pointing out my amusement at the BOGO sales coinciding with big Paramount/Dreamworks releases.
 
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Argyle

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VanMardigan said:
It's a wonderful thing for consumers, just like a $100 HD DVD player. I definitely never intended to make it seem negative, I don't know how that got twisted by that one idiot poster. In fact, I took advantage to it. I was merely pointing out my amusement at the BOGO sales coinciding with big Paramount/Dreamworks releases.
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Yup...as a consumer, if I had to choose where the BDA/HD DVD PRG spent their money, I'd rather them spend their money subsidizing my discs instead of cancelling movies for the "other team," which doesn't help any consumer no matter which format they have picked.
 
EviLore

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Chiggs said:
You might notice some front projection, but nothing too damning, IMO.
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Yeah, I noticed one scene with visible front projection, but that's about it here.
 
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Chemo

Member
Kolgar said:
It's good for consumers, but I wonder if it's counterproductive to Blu-ray as a format.

Really, the big reason studios want a successor to DVD is so they can resell their libraries all over again, reaping new profits along the way. I don't see how giving your discs away is consistent with that goal. Sure, Sony can subsidize these sales, but for how long?

What's the goal? To pad Blu's numbers during the weeks of big HD DVD releases? To encourage the largely untapped market of PS3 users to become Blu-ray buyers?

If it's the former, I think the studios can see through it. If it's the latter, I think that speaks to a current weakness in the format, an inevitable result of building a movie format with a game console.

Studios want to sell discs, not give them away. To studios, sales numbers don't mean much (especially numbers as small as these) if the profits aren't there as well.

That's why I think that if these companies are going to give anything away, it should be the hardware. More hardware in people's hands means more software sold by the studios which is what they want and why they're supporting these formats in the first place.
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Jesus Christ.
 
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dallow_bg

nods at old men
VanMardigan said:
The numbers are out, or are you saying you think it'll tank?
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Oh I'm just guessing.

I know Amazon numbers don't mean too much but it's not even in the top 50.
It usually indicates interest at least.
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Argyle said:
Yup...as a consumer, if I had to choose where the BDA/HD DVD PRG spent their money, I'd rather them spend their money subsidizing my discs instead of cancelling movies for the "other team," which doesn't help any consumer no matter which format they have picked.
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Well, it's not like the Paramount move is all they've done. They are giving you 7 free movies (at least) when you buy the new machines. That's not shabby at all. Though, as an owner already, I'd rather get subsidies on my movies. I know there are always specials (like the sci fi HD DVD one going on at Amazon), but the BDA subsidizes more substantially, up to 50% off (BOGO)
 
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Oni Jazar

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VanMardigan said:
The numbers are out, or are you saying you think it'll tank?



It's a wonderful thing for consumers, just like a $100 HD DVD player. I definitely never intended to make it seem negative, I don't know how that got twisted by that one idiot poster. In fact, I took advantage to it. I was merely pointing out my amusement at the BOGO sales coinciding with big Paramount/Dreamworks releases.
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Similar to Toshiba's $99 A2 deal during Spider-man 3 week.
 
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Kolgar

Member
Argyle said:
And in the end, movie sales numbers mean everything to the studios because they sell movies, not hardware...It's the only metric that matters. Sure, they know which weeks have been padded but it's pretty clear who's ahead right now.
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Yes, and if PS3 can successfully bridge the gap to affordable BD players before HD DVD makes any more substantial gains, then that bodes well for them.

Except full-spec, affordable BD players are still a ways off and that could pose a problem.

And BOGOs condition buyers to confine their purchases to sales. In business, that's not a good trap to fall into.

It's going to be interesting to see what Warner does next year if Toshiba is able to install a significant number of players, assuming those players provide studios a solid base of movie buyers.
 
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