VanMardigan said:
Were Cars or Rat part of any sale? I didn't see them in the Disney list on Amazon or DD.
Mitsubishi 57" DLP 1080p
I do. I sold my 360 and got an HDMI one. That shot (and everything I run) on the Xbox 360 was at 1080p. I'd like an HD DVD standalone to try out upscaling and HD DVD playback, but at this point, it would have to be at $149 or below, meaning the A3/2. Unless Amazon offers me that beautiful A35 for $149 for that promotion.
Honestly, though, your A3 upscaling is probably more than sufficient. The 360's upscaling is decent enough as it is, also. I definitely didn't get the Ps3 for upscaling, not enough of a difference.
AHA!!!
Van, your Mits DLP is the reason you aren't seeing the benift of 1080p/24 on Blu Ray/HD DVD...
The mits can only display at 60fps....30fps sources like TV dont pose a problem since 60 is a multiple of 30..games are usually 30 or 60fps too
Motion picture film, on the other hand, is 24fps (23.976fps to be exact) which your Mits *cannot* display a multiple of....
Put another way your Xbox 360 HD DVD player outputs 60 fields per second. Consider a one second time slice. You have 24 frames worth of material. If you break up that 24 frames into two interlaced fields (odd and even lines) then you have 48 total fields. These 48 fields contain all the information from the original 24 frames. In order to create 60 fields, the player creates three fields instead of two for every other frame. This extra field is a duplicate which is removed by Televisions with better processing(aka 2:3 pulldown).
So since your Mits doesnt do 24fps, there is a slight degradation in quality known as judder.....which looks exactly as it sounds...
Unless you get a TV that can actually display at a multiple of 24 (48, 72, 120, etc), being able to accept 1080/24 from a source like a PS3 or a Tosh A30/35 isn't that useful because the TV will be adding the judder
On TVs that do display 24fps properly, you are seeing a nice, even multiple of frames(aka 3:3 pulldown) instead of 2 frames, 3 frames, 2 frames...etc. You get a nice smooth 3, 3, 3
Get it now?
P.S. Also, the PS3 with 1.8 or newer firmware update is one of the best upscaling DVD players you can get at any price...
It is one of the very few that scored over 80 onl the subjective HQV benchmark DVD tests.....