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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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maharg said:
On futureshop.com they have a release date of nov 20th, so they appear to just not be out yet. I really don't know why that'd be the case, but it seems to be.

2001 on hd-dvd is still impossible to find from a canadian retailer, too.

I'm almost certain last time I looked in both the Futureshop and Best Buy near me, they had 2001 on HD-DVD, may be gone and need to be refreshed by now. I should know, those HD-DVD's stood there mocking me but I had spent a whole lot recently which made it easier to wait for the Kubrick Blu-ray's, but not for much longer.
 

Raistlin

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dallow_bg said:
highdefwi9.png

Where is this from?!?!?!?
 

maharg

idspispopd
purnoman3000 said:
I'm almost certain last time I looked in both the Futureshop and Best Buy near me, they had 2001 on HD-DVD, may be gone and need to be refreshed by now. I should know, those HD-DVD's stood there mocking me but I had spent a whole lot recently which made it easier to wait for the Kubrick Blu-ray's, but not for much longer.

The only FS I have access to that claims to have stock according to their website does not, in fact, have any copies despite their computer claiming they do. There's something seriously fucked up there. They also don't even have them in stock online on fs.com or amazon.ca.

Correction: Amazon.ca *does* have it in stock now...
 
Gary Whitta said:
What came out on HD/BD this week?


November 13, 2007

* Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Blu-ray)
* Dragon Ball Z - Broly Double Feature (Blu-ray)
* IMAX: Africa the Serengeti (Blu-ray)
* IMAX: Alaska Spirit of the Wild (Blu-ray)
* IMAX: Antarctica -- An Adventure of a Different Nature (Blu-ray)
* IMAX: Australia Land Beyond Time (Blu-ray)
* Masters of Horror: Season One - Vol. Three (Blu-ray)
* Ocean's Giftset (Blu-ray)
* Ocean's Giftset (HD DVD)
* Ocean's Thirteen (Blu-ray)
* Ocean's Thirteen (HD DVD)
* Pride & Prejudice (2005) (HD DVD)
* Prison Break: Season One (Blu-ray)
* Shrek the Third (HD DVD)
* Ultimate Force (Blu-ray)
* Ultimate Force (HD DVD)
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
that will actually be interesting. Shrek 3 is the big day and date release on HDDVD, but HDDVD generally sells less software. Close Encounters is the big catalogue release on bluray which sells more software but catalogue titles are generally weaker. I'd tend towards shrek 3 selling more. but overall sales still to be strongly bluray due to the BOGOF sales.


I'm assuming ratatouille and cars will own this week. I was a little worried that two pixar movies might split the audience, but the offers this week mean I think lots of people will buy both. And I'm assuming that there will be a pent up demand for the 'tentpole' disney/pixar releases (sorry Chicken Little, you're fun but not exactly ratatouille now are you?)

when are this weeks numbers out?
 

mr stroke

Member
EviLore said:
2001 Blu-Ray was pretty astonishing.

+1
I noticed the high praise for it here and on avs so I decided to rent it and HOLLY SHIT!
How in the hell have I never seen this masterpiece before??instant buy for me now. Amazing film and the PQ is simply out of this world. I have seen alot of older movies in HD and this blows them all away, considering the movie is 40 years old its amazing how perfect the PQ is. It doesn't have the pop that Pirates or Spidey has but the PQ is just picture perfect, never seen anything like it, this is now right up there with Rat for me as the best PQ on BR/HD.


now I need to watch it again on every drug known to man...
 

bud

Member
Cosmic Bus said:
Starting the new year off right:

http://i5.tinypic.com/7wtk5e9.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

i haven't seen this yet, but i'll rent it this or next week (fincher <3), but it reminds me of the [i]se7en[/i] s.e. boxart, and that was all cardboard, iirc. looks pretty nice, though the red hd-dvd case looks out of place.

also, assuming one of these two formats win, will they still keep releasing movies in these red/blue cases? they look ugly.
 

Solo

Member
maharg said:
2001 on hd-dvd is still impossible to find from a canadian retailer, too.

I walked into my local Futureshop and picked the 2001 HD DVD up off a rack within the first minute I was in the store.

Cosmic Bus said:
Starting the new year off right:

7wtk5e9.jpg

Fucking awesome. Day one.
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
mrklaw said:
I'm assuming ratatouille and cars will own this week. I was a little worried that two pixar movies might split the audience, but the offers this week mean I think lots of people will buy both.

Were Cars or Rat part of any sale? I didn't see them in the Disney list on Amazon or DD.

What kind of tv?
Mitsubishi 57" DLP 1080p


I'm jealous of PS3's upscaling, but that's not really a fair fight unless you've got an HDMI 360. I don't, but fortunately my new A3 upscales admirably.

I do. I sold my 360 and got an HDMI one. That shot (and everything I run) on the Xbox 360 was at 1080p. I'd like an HD DVD standalone to try out upscaling and HD DVD playback, but at this point, it would have to be at $149 or below, meaning the A3/2. Unless Amazon offers me that beautiful A35 for $149 for that promotion.

Honestly, though, your A3 upscaling is probably more than sufficient. The 360's upscaling is decent enough as it is, also. I definitely didn't get the Ps3 for upscaling, not enough of a difference. :p
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
VanMardigan said:
Were Cars or Rat part of any sale? I didn't see them in the Disney list on Amazon or DD.


Someone was doing it as a 'buy one, get the 2nd for $10', so that should have encouraged fence sitters who may have just bought one or the other, to buy both.
 

DoubleTap

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mrklaw said:
Someone was doing it as a 'buy one, get the 2nd for $10', so that should have encouraged fence sitters who may have just bought one or the other, to buy both.

It was a $10.00 off promotion. It was between Cars, Rat',Pixar shorts. You buy 2 titles, one of them gets $10.00 off. I bought Cars for 24.99 last week and was charged 14.99 for Rat' at Fry's.

I'm heading to my local Fry's this weekend for some more Blu BOGO deals. Just saw the ad for San Jose.
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Oh snap!! The HD DVD website has been updated, and one of the areas "HD DVD Simulator" CLEARLY hints at Jaws. It's a water filled tanks with sharks and the Jaws music in the background. It also seems to hint at LOTR. One of the movies on that simulation has already been announced: Twister.

*drools*

ANNOUNCE THEM ALREADY!!
 

dankir

Member
OokieSpookie said:
November 13, 2007

* Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Blu-ray)
* Dragon Ball Z - Broly Double Feature (Blu-ray)
* IMAX: Africa the Serengeti (Blu-ray)
* IMAX: Alaska Spirit of the Wild (Blu-ray)
* IMAX: Antarctica -- An Adventure of a Different Nature (Blu-ray)
* IMAX: Australia Land Beyond Time (Blu-ray)
* Masters of Horror: Season One - Vol. Three (Blu-ray)
* Ocean's Giftset (Blu-ray)
* Ocean's Giftset (HD DVD)
* Ocean's Thirteen (Blu-ray)
* Ocean's Thirteen (HD DVD)
* Pride & Prejudice (2005) (HD DVD)
* Prison Break: Season One (Blu-ray)
* Shrek the Third (HD DVD)
* Ultimate Force (Blu-ray)
* Ultimate Force (HD DVD)


How are those IMAX and Ocean 13 blu rays? And did anybody pick up Shrek 3?
 

yacobod

Banned
hell ya zodiac day 1 purchase, and then i think a few weeks later i'll be picking up 3:10 to yuma on BR, will be a good start in 2008
 
Jaws for HD-DVD means Jaws for Blu-ray, right?

I'm not a big Spielberg guy, so I don't care much (giving a wide pass to Close Encounters, for instance) but it's good for HD media in general to have this stuff out there.
 

RaidenZR

Member
VanMardigan said:
Oh snap!! The HD DVD website has been updated, and one of the areas "HD DVD Simulator" CLEARLY hints at Jaws. It's a water filled tanks with sharks and the Jaws music in the background. It also seems to hint at LOTR. One of the movies on that simulation has already been announced: Twister.

*drools*

ANNOUNCE THEM ALREADY!!

You're about to start a new Internet wildfire here.

Let's not forget when Universal showed those Spielberg slides in Japan a few weeks back and everyone got in a tizzy before Spielberg's people came out and disproved their existance. And it's been said that Spielberg is one of those directors whose name is all over the footnotes to Paramount/Universal's HD-DVD exclusivity deal.

I'm not trying to rain on any parades, just let's not let the excitement overwhelm the facts. Toshiba seems about as zealous as their most supportive and vocal internet patrons. They need to be careful.

Edit: Let me just edit this before everyone trounces me in subsequent posts. I would not be surprised if it was true and Spielberg finally starts announcing some more stuff for either format. Obviously the greater chance of that being HD-DVD. More high-profile HD releases is something I see as a good thing all-around.
 

Oni Jazar

Member
Every time HD DVD has even hinted at a Spielburg title they have been forced to come out and publicly apologize and retract the notion. I wouldn't get excited until an official announcement is made.
 

Kolgar

Member
Oni Jazar said:
Every time HD DVD has even hinted at a Spielburg title they have been forced to come out and publicly apologize and retract the notion. I wouldn't get excited until an official announcement is made.

True dat, but there's been lots of smoke lately and wow, there just may be some fire.

There's so much going on behind the scenes, with studios and CEs and retailers and all, that the Fox Mulder inside me is thinking we're about to see some more surprises, soon.
 

MechDX

Member
DJ_Tet said:
I picked up Shrek 3 from the dvd discount site, I can't wait to see some cgi on my tv :D

Hopefully the movie isn't that bad.


The movie isnt that bad, not as good as the first two but its ok. The PQ on the disc is outstanding though. AT times I forgot I was watching CG.
 

Kolgar

Member
Ignatz Mouse said:
"Fire" is an announcement. This is more smoke.

I gotta think, either somebody in Toshiba's marketing/PR department is thick in the head and doggedly determined to keep making the same mistakes over and over, or they're absentmindedly leaking information they're not supposed to tell us yet.

An allusion to Jaws on that web site would be another major impropriety if Spielberg has active and legitimate footnotes all over the Universal contracts. You'd think that the folks creating Toshiba's marketing materials would have had the memos tattooed onto their foreheads and their first-borns already.

Anyway, yes. Smoke for now.
 
I went and looked at the site, and it's generic enough that I don't think it's going to do more than stoke the hopes of people waiting for an announcement.
 

Oni Jazar

Member
How's this for interactive bonus features?

"The Resident Evil: Extinction Blu-ray disc, released on 2nd January in the US, will contain demo versions of Resident Evil 5 and Devil May Cry 4. Also featured are plenty of Profile 1.1 features including picture in picture commentary, and Blu-Wizard 2.0 which enhances interactive menu features such as organisation.

Tech specs for the disc are the usual 1080p AVC-MPEG4 video transfer as well as an uncompressed 5.1 audio track. Extinction will also be released as part of a trilogy set including the original first Resident Evil film on the same date."

http://threespeech.com/blog/?p=728
 
VanMardigan said:
Oh snap!! The HD DVD website has been updated, and one of the areas "HD DVD Simulator" CLEARLY hints at Jaws. It's a water filled tanks with sharks and the Jaws music in the background. It also seems to hint at LOTR. One of the movies on that simulation has already been announced: Twister.

*drools*

ANNOUNCE THEM ALREADY!!

No offense but that is some serious stretching.
IF you are referring to the fire breathing dragon as to hinting at LOTR, you are forgetting that there are no fire breathing dragons in LOTR.
As far as the shark thing no matter how much I turn my volume up I hear no jaws theme , I see sharks and it could just as well be Deep Blue See or something else.
There is no Jaws theme at all. (Unless no matter how high I turn my volume it is not there).

Don't get me wrong, I want them too but I am honestly so tired of "what if's" and unfounded speculation in this format war on both sides.
I do expect some great announcements in december at the high def media event and at ces
 

Oni Jazar

Member
Ignatz Mouse said:
Still don't care. PiP is about all I feel I am missing, and even then... I'd mostly be watching talking heads.

The best news is that if this is the first title that supports profile 1.1, hopefully the PS3 will get FW support before then.
 

dallow_bg

nods at old men
Watched Ratatouille last night........... reviews weren't kidding about the spectacular audio.
It's just a perfect surround mix, any way you slice it, the rears and surrounds were used to perfection and not just mere ambiance. Even the menu was in 5.1!

Oh yeah, and the video was good too. :D

I had to laugh at the little intro warning of 2-3 minute load times for BD players.
PS3 loads it in seconds.
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Ignatz Mouse said:
Still don't care. PiP is about all I feel I am missing, and even then... I'd mostly be watching talking heads.

The worst PiP is the talking heads. Might as well be an audio commentary. Fortunately, most HD DVD's I've seen show off sets, stunts, animatics, info panels, etc. 300 has the director talking about the effects as the blue screen version is shown. Pretty entertaining for subsequent viewings.
 

Kleegamefan

K. LEE GAIDEN
VanMardigan said:
Were Cars or Rat part of any sale? I didn't see them in the Disney list on Amazon or DD.


Mitsubishi 57" DLP 1080p




I do. I sold my 360 and got an HDMI one. That shot (and everything I run) on the Xbox 360 was at 1080p. I'd like an HD DVD standalone to try out upscaling and HD DVD playback, but at this point, it would have to be at $149 or below, meaning the A3/2. Unless Amazon offers me that beautiful A35 for $149 for that promotion.

Honestly, though, your A3 upscaling is probably more than sufficient. The 360's upscaling is decent enough as it is, also. I definitely didn't get the Ps3 for upscaling, not enough of a difference. :p

AHA!!!

Van, your Mits DLP is the reason you aren't seeing the benift of 1080p/24 on Blu Ray/HD DVD...


The mits can only display at 60fps....30fps sources like TV dont pose a problem since 60 is a multiple of 30..games are usually 30 or 60fps too


Motion picture film, on the other hand, is 24fps (23.976fps to be exact) which your Mits *cannot* display a multiple of....

Put another way your Xbox 360 HD DVD player outputs 60 fields per second. Consider a one second time slice. You have 24 frames worth of material. If you break up that 24 frames into two interlaced fields (odd and even lines) then you have 48 total fields. These 48 fields contain all the information from the original 24 frames. In order to create 60 fields, the player creates three fields instead of two for every other frame. This extra field is a duplicate which is removed by Televisions with better processing(aka 2:3 pulldown).

So since your Mits doesnt do 24fps, there is a slight degradation in quality known as judder.....which looks exactly as it sounds...

Unless you get a TV that can actually display at a multiple of 24 (48, 72, 120, etc), being able to accept 1080/24 from a source like a PS3 or a Tosh A30/35 isn't that useful because the TV will be adding the judder


On TVs that do display 24fps properly, you are seeing a nice, even multiple of frames(aka 3:3 pulldown) instead of 2 frames, 3 frames, 2 frames...etc. You get a nice smooth 3, 3, 3

Get it now?


P.S. Also, the PS3 with 1.8 or newer firmware update is one of the best upscaling DVD players you can get at any price...

It is one of the very few that scored over 80 onl the subjective HQV benchmark DVD tests.....
 
Fry's has some BD movies for 9.99, will sell out fast.

http://shop1.outpost.com/{O1VxO1RFA...er=asc&cat=&pType=&from=0&to=24&order_by=p03a

Bram Stoker's Dracula
Hollow Man
The Fifth Element (REMASTERED)
The Replacement Killers
A Few Good Men
Underworld
Memoirs Of A Geisha
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
The Patriot
Wild Things
Hellboy
Donnie Brasco
Curse Of The Golden Flower
Layer Cake
Tears OF The Sun
Black Hawk Down
Resident Evil: Apocolypse
The House Of Flying Daggers
Kung Fu Hustle
Stealth
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Kleegamefan said:
AHA!!!

Van, your Mits DLP is the reason you aren't seeing the benift of 1080p/24 on Blu Ray/HD DVD...


The mits can only display at 60fps.


According to the product specs:

1920 x 1080 @ 24Hz, 30Hz, 60Hz

1080p (24Hz, 30Hz, 60Hz)

Plus at the AVS owner's thread, they also said it does 1080p/24. Where did you get the info about it not doing 1080p/24?
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Oh, I see (I think). My tv needs to do 48, 72, or 120? So 24 doesn't count?

If so, I'll just disable the option on the Ps3 then.
 

DJ_Tet

Banned
Does anyone have the NIN concert? I want to get the HD DVD, the concert I went to that year was amazing. The review at hi def digest is sparkling too, saying it was filmed with HD cameras.
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
So, now that klee has totally confused the crap out of me, I went to wikipedia. Apparently, since my tv does 24hz, it does 1080p/24.

Anybody know anything about how 1080p/24 works?
 
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