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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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Big-E said:
So you can do a 5.1 setup with the onkyo 605 despite it being a 7.1 system? I don't think my parents want more than a 5.1 system.

yeah, its just up to 7.1. so if 5.1 is all you need go with the 605 and be sure to get a bipolar surround, itll give you more depth of sound since youre not going with a 7.1 . id say it shouldnt cost more than 2k for a decent ssytem, i only recommend paradigm because they are a reputable. i have definitives now, but im looking to do paradigms upstairs in the living room



mains should be 680

center 259

surround pr 219

velodyne sub 500

receiver 500



those are msrp but im sure you can find them much cheaper. the bad news is paradigm is pretty strict about online selling, so an authorized dealer is pretty much the only place. that or ebay
 
Apparently a few copies of ID4 may hit some stores, not alot but some apparently hit distro before they found the error and pulled the release until March.
 

dallow_bg

nods at old men
OokieSpookie said:
Apparently a few copies of ID4 may hit some stores, not alot but some apparently hit distro before they found the error and pulled the release until March.
WANT!
Where did you see this?
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
OokieSpookie said:
Play nice Sybill.

I wasn't the one with the huge overreaction. Not that time, anyway. :lol

You guys think those ID4 copies will be worth more on Ebay than the Blades of Glory Blu Rays?
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
What's your tag on avs and HDDigest, ookie? I'd like to see what your personality is like on those places, since they're both terrible in terms of fanboyism. I hope it doesn't carry over to here, since it can get ugly in here already.
 

Jeff-DSA

Member
Ignatz Mouse said:
Yes, this is unique to Blu-ray supporters.


The winning part, anyway.

Meh, I'm easy going in either direction despite the fact that I'd rather see HD-DVD win. If Blu-ray comes out on top, however, I'm really not going to let it affect my life (nor my day).
 
VanMardigan said:
What's your tag on avs and HDDigest, ookie? I'd like to see what your personality is like on those places, since they're both terrible in terms of fanboyism. I hope it doesn't carry over to here, since it can get ugly in here already.
I personally hate avs, tag is the same but I rarely actually post there.
Got temp banned from highdefdigest forums for getting fed up with a few of the locals.
 

Soybean

Member
I'm waiting for Blu-ray to win so I can get a bunch of cheap HD DVDs (especially those Trek discs). When do you think we'll have the infrastructure to download HD material? 10 years or so? I hope this baby (HD-A2) lasts that long.
 
VanMardigan said:
You're safe here. And yeah, Enderle's a joke. I learned that the hard way. :D
Hddigest is just asinine.
I seriously can not fathom that some of them are not alt joke accounts but they are not, they are serious.
I kept telling myself that there is no reason to go there, no real information ever comes from there.
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
OokieSpookie said:
Hddigest is just asinine.
I seriously can not fathom that some of them are not alt joke accounts but they are not, they are serious.

Which one of the rabid blu boys are you over there? logan? zombieflanders?
 

Xisiqomelir

Member
OokieSpookie said:
Someone really needs to smack him seriously.
His new write up calls the hd war "Sony's Iraq"
LINK

Let's shut off that ad revenue, eh?

Blu-ray Is Sony's Iraq

As expected, HD DVD sold very well and continues to show very good numbers during the holiday buying season. In looking back at the amount of pain this thing has caused Sony, I couldn't help but compare it to the U.S. and Iraq.

Think about it -- if Donald Rumsfeld, then the Secretary of Defense, had gone to George Bush and said, "Hey, we need to invade Iraq and the result will be I'll lose my job, most of the generals and advisers you currently have will resign or lose their jobs, you'll kill more U.S. soldiers than any president in near-term U.S. history, you'll lose Congress to the Democrats, you'll almost assure Hillary Clinton will be your successor, you'll restart the Cold War, you'll devalue the U.S. dollar to the lowest level in recent history, you'll go down in history as probably the dumbest U.S. president ever, and you'll be locked into an incredibly expensive battle you won't either be able to leave or win," you'd have to believe that George would have said, "No."

And not just "no," but "hell no, no way, nopers, negatory, not doing it, get the hell out of my office and don't come back."

Now look at Blu-ray. Since bringing it out, Sony has trashed its PlayStation division, had to downsize a number of top executives including the guy that was credited with creating the PlayStation's success in the first place. The company's financial performance has largely dropped into the toilet and it has had to sell off parts of the company to Toshiba, the company behind the other format. Key studios have abandoned it, some of which have gaming properties that probably now won't go to PlayStation. Sony has nearly assured that whatever country gets the next media format, it won't be Japan and probably will be China, it will be constantly reminded of the Betamax mistake, Nintendo Latest News about Nintendo is No. 1 in the gaming segment, and it'll be locked into a battle it can neither win nor exit from. You'd have to believe that the guy making the proposal would be chased by ninjas out of the office and his ending wouldn't have been a good one.

Oh, and one other similarity: If you point out that the Iraq war was brain-dead stupid, you are seen as a terrorist sympathizer; if you point out that Blu-ray was brain-dead stupid, you are portrayed as being on Toshiba or Microsoft's payroll. I still don't get the Microsoft thing, since neither it nor Intel (Nasdaq: INTC) Latest News about Intel seems to care that much one way or the other now, and both are focused more on downloads. It gives me a lot of empathy for the kid in the "The Emperor's New Clothes."
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
"The company's financial performance"

Is that even true? I thought Sony as a whole has been doing pretty good lately, it was only SCE that wasn't doing good.

Oh and Toshiba = Iraq? Jeez, a bit tasteless. Besides, if the Sony is somehow his perceived loser in this war, despite doing better, where does that put Toshiba?
 

Jeff-DSA

Member
Gary Whitta said:
W T F

Since when did Blu-ray/HD-DVD exclusivity have anything to do with game format support?

Apologists, trolls, and fanboys will try to connect any dots, no matter how far apart.
 

snorggy

Member
sorry to sidetrack the current discussion about the questionable "article" posted... but which format will beowulf come out on? i saw it last night in imax 3D and was incredibly impressed... i noticed it had paramount and warner logos at the beginning, so i'm kind of confused about whether it will be available for both formats or if it will exclusive to hd dvd.
 
Slow news day, as we're all gathering 'round to bash our favorite pinata.

And for me, slow week. Not really into Pirates or any of the other releases coming up.

When does Eastern Promises come out? I know it's not Blu-ray, but I was just recommending the movie to somebody and wondered when the DVD was out (and I assume it's day-and-date).
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
snorggy said:
sorry to sidetrack the current discussion about the questionable "article" posted... but which format will beowulf come out on? i saw it last night in imax 3D and was incredibly impressed... i noticed it had paramount and warner logos at the beginning, so i'm kind of confused about whether it will be available for both formats or if it will exclusive to hd dvd.
Again O/T but looks like the cinema has again managed to move the paradigm shift towards something that can't (yet) be replicated at home. First it was color, then widescreen, now it's 3D. I havent' seen it yet, because there are no 3D cinemas around, but I'm willing to bet you won't be anywhere near as impressed with that movie seeing it on your TV now that you've seen it in apparently really well done 3D.

I really, really can't wait for Avatar for that reason, among others.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Marconelly said:
Again O/T but looks like the cinema has again managed to move the paradigm shift towards something that can't (yet) be replicated at home. First it was color, then widescreen, now it's 3D. I havent' seen it yet, because there are no 3D cinemas around, but I'm willing to bet you won't be anywhere near as impressed with that movie seeing it on your TV now that you've seen it in apparently really well done 3D.

I really, really can't wait for Avatar for that reason, among others.

AKA its coming out on HDDVD but Marconelly couldnt just say that. He had to tell you why you shouldnt care about it.
 

orio7

Banned
StoOgE said:
AKA its coming out on HDDVD but Marconelly couldnt just say that. He had to tell you why you shouldnt care about it.

Warner Bros in Europe. Not that anyone should care since the movie is shit.
 
snorggy said:
sorry to sidetrack the current discussion about the questionable "article" posted... but which format will beowulf come out on? i saw it last night in imax 3D and was incredibly impressed... i noticed it had paramount and warner logos at the beginning, so i'm kind of confused about whether it will be available for both formats or if it will exclusive to hd dvd.

Paramount has the rights for NA, so it should come out exclusively on HD DVD here. Warner Bros will however distribute in other countries, so BD owners should be able to import it as long as it doesn't have any region lock.

Ignatz Mouse said:
When does Eastern Promises come out? I know it's not Blu-ray, but I was just recommending the movie to somebody and wondered when the DVD was out (and I assume it's day-and-date).

Dec. 26th.
 
StoOgE said:
AKA its coming out on HDDVD but Marconelly couldnt just say that. He had to tell you why you shouldnt care about it.
the hell are you talking about? he didn't even mention a HD format in his post, he was talking about the 3D effects.
 

Dot50Cal

Banned
VanMardigan said:
What's your tag on avs and HDDigest, ookie? I'd like to see what your personality is like on those places, since they're both terrible in terms of fanboyism. I hope it doesn't carry over to here, since it can get ugly in here already.

VanMardigan said:
Which one of the rabid blu boys are you over there? logan? zombieflanders?

Can you stop stalking this dude? Take it to PM. Its really annoying reading this bullshit when I just want to hear about the going ons with BD and HD.
 
Rob Enderle said:
Oh, and one other similarity: If you point out that the Iraq war was brain-dead stupid, you are seen as a terrorist sympathizer; if you point out that Blu-ray was brain-dead stupid, you are portrayed as being on Toshiba or Microsoft's payroll.

The funny thing about this is that Rob Enderle IS on MS's payroll, amirite?
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
bune duggy said:
the hell are you talking about? he didn't even mention a HD format in his post, he was talking about the 3D effects.

That's the point. The short answer was HD DVD. Long answer: HD DVD but you can import. In-Denial answer: movies sucks anyway, so why bother?

Can you stop stalking this dude? Take it to PM. Its really annoying reading this bullshit when I just want to hear about the going ons with BD and HD.

We're past that, but I'll let it slide since it was your opening to take a shot at me. I contribute more to news on either side than you ever will, but put me on ignore if it's so damn annoying to you.
 
VanMardigan said:
That's the point. The short answer was HD DVD. Long answer: HD DVD but you can import. In-Denial answer: movies sucks anyway, so why bother?



We're past that, but I'll let it slide since it was your opening to take a shot at me. I contribute more to news on either side than you ever will, but put me on ignore if it's so damn annoying to you.
he prefaced it with "off topic" so I don't think so. at any rate, I'm not going to argue someone else's posts for him further. If that was his intention, that was a retarded move. If not, then you're both over-reacting.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
bune duggy said:
he prefaced it with "off topic" so I don't think so. at any rate, I'm not going to argue someone else's posts for him further. If that was his intention, that was a retarded move. If not, then you're both over-reacting.


marconellys response was to someone who asked which format
 
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