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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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gray_fox224

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UnholySpectacle said:
Get ready for one of the most brutal and well choreographed fist fights, EVAR.

Fuck I wish I had some free cash so I could pick up the HDDVD 360 add-on. I'll just deal with blu-ray for now.


I bought the HDaddon just because of the Bourne movies...yeah, I'm part of the problem.
 

DJ_Tet

Banned
Stinkles said:
Better yet, I haven't seen the movie yet.


Double drool.


I haven't seen the second OR third one yet.

It's gonna be a good Christmas :D

I absolutely loved the first one, and have heard great things about the other two obviously, just one of those things.
 

DJ_Tet

Banned
StoOgE said:
i couldnt disagree more


That's good to hear. The first two got really good ratings on Hi Def Digest, and I'd figure with as much fast motion is the first one that a good transfer would be important.

Same would be true of DVD, perhaps the Identity DVD transfer is excellent as well.
 
I hated the end of Bourne Ultimatum. It seemed like they ran out of ideas and went with the obvious route. Ruined the movie for me. They've been setting it up for 3 movies and when the ending happens, I felt underwhelmed.

First is still by far the best IMO.
 

SRG01

Member
DarkJediKnight said:
I hated the end of Bourne Ultimatum. It seemed like they ran out of ideas and went with the obvious route. Ruined the movie for me. They've been setting it up for 3 movies and when the ending happens, I felt underwhelmed.

First is still by far the best IMO.

I actually quite liked it. It wasn't over the top and it was believable.
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Sir Fragula said:
For animation I doubt the quality impact of only having one 15Gb layer [until they start mass producing TL discs] is even noticable; that stuff probably encodes really small regardless.

Actually, the way Warner and Universal do combo discs is one side dvd and one side HD DVD, so you can get a 30GB HD DVD version and a dual layer dvd as well.

The only dual format single sided title I've seen is Freedom, which I own. That's limited to single layer dvd and single layer HD DVD, though the HD version still looks superb.
 
DarkJediKnight said:
I hated the end of Bourne Ultimatum. It seemed like they ran out of ideas and went with the obvious route. Ruined the movie for me. They've been setting it up for 3 movies and when the ending happens, I felt underwhelmed.

First is still by far the best IMO.


I like the second one best, first one is good, I thought the third one was highly overrated. Didn't make as much sense, and felt too much like a retread of the second one.

The second one is golden though, and being a weaker copy of an awesome movie is not really all that damning.
 

steve

Banned
Anyone know if 24 Season 6 is coming to Blu-ray? I just saw an ad on TV for the DVD box set, and would love this in high-def.
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
VanMardigan said:
appleseed-exmachinaHDa.jpg

Wasn't Warner supposed to be discontinuing combo releases after Harry Potter?
 

snorggy

Member
UnholySpectacle said:
Get ready for one of the most brutal and well choreographed fist fights, EVAR.

sarcasm?

i have a hard time classifying any fight scene filmed in shakey-cam™ style as "well choreographed"... but that's just my opinion. :)

it is a pretty good movie though and should look great in HD.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
steve said:
Anyone know if 24 Season 6 is coming to Blu-ray? I just saw an ad on TV for the DVD box set, and would love this in high-def.

Why would you want to own what's arguably the worst season of the show?
 

Christopher

Member
CoG said:
Best Buy employess at their best:

http://www.ketknbc.com/home/ticker/12293886.html

Watch the vid.

"DVD 'Upconvert' takes your DVD disc, spins it faster and turns it into near hi-def"

"The only difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is the thickness of the disc. Blu-Ray can hold more, but is a thinner disc, HD-DVD holds less but is thicker."

You forgot "Fox is exclusive to HD" - holy shit...did she do anything in her report besides go to Best Buy and ask a clerk?
 

rc213

Member
New Amazon BOGO starts today with 5 pages of Blu-Ray movies elegible.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000174981&plpage=1&tag=blurayforum-20




Best Buy Blu-Ray BOGO

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat137800050009&type=category




Best Panasonic Plasma HDTV + BD30K Blu-Ray Player Deal

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=pcmcat138200050160

42" 1080P TH-42PZ77U Panasonic Plasma with BD30 for $1500
50" 1080P TH-50PZ77U Panasonic Plasma with BD30 for $2400


BDA is going insane with holiday deals.
 

orio7

Banned
CoG said:
Best Buy employess at their best:

http://www.ketknbc.com/home/ticker/12293886.html

Watch the vid.

"DVD 'Upconvert' takes your DVD disc, spins it faster and turns it into near hi-def"

"The only difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is the thickness of the disc. Blu-Ray can hold more, but is a thinner disc, HD-DVD holds less but is thicker."

WTF! :lol

"Blu-ray is thicker so it will be more expensive in the long run."

"Fox is HD exclusive."

:lol
 

el Diablo

Banned
DarkJediKnight said:
I hated the end of Bourne Ultimatum. It seemed like they ran out of ideas and went with the obvious route. Ruined the movie for me. They've been setting it up for 3 movies and when the ending happens, I felt underwhelmed.

First is still by far the best IMO.

No clue if you know this but the movies are drastically different than the books, so they probably did run out of ideas since they fubar'd the plot so much heh. It's part of the reason i haven't seen the Ultimatum yet, after reading the book and knowing just how much they messed with the series i lost alot of interest. I'll probably catch it in a year once it hits the movie channels heh.
 
rc213 said:
New Amazon BOGO starts today with 5 pages of Blu-Ray movies elegible.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&docId=1000174981&plpage=1&tag=blurayforum-20




Best Buy Blu-Ray BOGO

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat137800050009&type=category




Best Panasonic Plasma HDTV + BD30K Blu-Ray Player Deal



http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=pcmcat138200050160

42" 1080P TH-42PZ77U Panasonic Plasma with BD30 for $1500
50" 1080P TH-50PZ77U Panasonic Plasma with BD30 for $2400


BDA is going insane with holiday deals.

god damn all of these bogo sales, they are trying to bleed me dry
 

theBishop

Banned
Riskbreaker23 said:
god damn all of these bogo sales, they are trying to bleed me dry

Thankfully, I got all the ones I really want during the previous rounds. If American Psycho was in there (questionable transfer notwithstanding), i'd probably go for another pair.
 

djkimothy

Member
mrklaw said:
so many that I bought at full price when they first came out ;_;

Yah, I think Im going to hold off on purchases from now on, all these deals going on could have saved me so much money. :(

Watch the deals dry up with my new policy. :/
 

MaX_PL

Banned
DarkJediKnight said:
I hated the end of Bourne Ultimatum. It seemed like they ran out of ideas and went with the obvious route. Ruined the movie for me. They've been setting it up for 3 movies and when the ending happens, I felt underwhelmed.

First is still by far the best IMO.

i hated the whole movie to be honest. it felt like the spiderman trilogy. the first two were okay and then the third was just an unnecessary filler.
 

yacobod

Banned
MaX_PL said:
i hated the whole movie to be honest. it felt like the spiderman trilogy. the first two were okay and then the third was just an unnecessary filler.


i couldnt disagree more

in the summer of terrible sequals, the bourne ultimatum was the only good one, shit it was my favorite of the bourne movies

if i had to rate them id go ultimatum > supremacy > identity
 

dallow_bg

nods at old men
From the new BOGO at Amazon, I'm getting: (and i've already gotten most of what i wanted)

Life of Brian
20 Million Miles...
Tekkon Kinkreet

I need one more.....
 
yacobod said:
i couldnt disagree more

in the summer of terrible sequals, the bourne ultimatum was the only good one, shit it was my favorite of the bourne movies

if i had to rate them id go ultimatum > supremacy > identity

In the Summer of terrible sequels, it was merely a mediocre sequel. Ultimatum had some good suspense, but also has more leaps of logic and plot holes than Supremacy, and a very weak ending.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Ignatz Mouse said:
In the Summer of terrible sequels, it was merely a mediocre sequel. Ultimatum had some good suspense, but also has more leaps of logic and plot holes than Supremacy, and a very weak ending.

but it had the coolest moment in the entire series.

Where are you?

I'm in my office.

No you aren't. If you were, we would be having this conversation face to face.

FWIW, I really liked Ultimatum. I cant really rank the three movies because I think all 3 of them are really really well made.
 

TheWolf

Banned
StoOgE said:
but it had the coolest moment in the entire series.

Where are you?

I'm in my office.

No you aren't. If you were, we would be having this conversation face to face.

FWIW, I really liked Ultimatum. I cant really rank the three movies because I think all 3 of them are really really well made.

people in the theater cheered during that when i saw it. i was like, you all saw that in the commercial, and knew it was coming. calm down.
 
I liked that bit in the trailer, but in the context of the movie it strained credibility too much.

I rank the movies thusly:

Supremacy >>>>>>> Identity > Ultimatum.

I thought Identity was a bit cheesy but fun, Supremacy was just plain incredible, and Ultimatum has great bits but no real point, too many plot holes, and (unfortunately) had to live up to expectations after Supremacy. It's about neck-and-neck with the first one, but a completely different kind of movie and hard to compare.

Supremacy is godlike, however. A spy movie with a conscience, something that's a rare breed these days.
 

NekoFever

Member
xsarien said:
Why would you want to own what's arguably the worst season of the show?
Arguably?

On the Bourne debate, I'd put them like this:

Identity > Ultimatum > Supremacy

I do agree that the end was weak in Ultimatum but the Waterloo Station scene was probably my favourite sequence in the entire series, and it had plenty of other strong scenes. I love the stuff like the above exchange that was in the trailer and the equivalent in Supremacy (
"What if I can't find her?"/"It's easy; she's standing right next to you"
). Supremacy was very good but suffers from the middle trilogy syndrome that marred stuff like The Two Towers for me. Plus the spasmodic editing in the action scenes (final car chase particularly) annoyed me.

Anyway, just a quick PSA for any UK HD'ers who were thinking of picking up a couple of the big releases out today: Bourne Ultimatum on HD and Pan's Labyrinth on both formats. I was in Virgin earlier having a look at them and found a couple of things that might make you want to import, assuming the backs of the boxes are accurate.

Bourne isn't a flipper over here which is nice, but it doesn't have the TrueHD track that the US version apparently has because they've put like six European languages (plus Japanese for some reason) on there in DD+. When it's region free there's no reason to buy a gimped version so just import as it'll be cheaper anyway.

Pan is a completely different version to the one that New Line will be putting out in the US in a couple of weeks (this one is from Optimum), and whereas New Line are putting 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio on theirs, this one apparently only has Dolby Digital. That's regular Dolby Digital, not DD+. And the Blu-ray version says that on the back of the box as well. Fuck that. All the Optimum DVDs that I own have DTS, so are we moving backwards?

Again, I'm just going on what it says on the boxes, but caveat emptor.
 

kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
I still like Bourne Identity the best. Supremacy is good but too bleak for my tastes. Ultimatum was okay, like others have said - doesn't do much to change up the established Bourne formula but that's still head and shoulders better than many other movies of this kind.

rc213 said:
Jesus, why bother Best Buy?
 

BigDug13

Member
TheWolf said:
people in the theater cheered during that when i saw it. i was like, you all saw that in the commercial, and knew it was coming. calm down.

I guess this is one benefit of being on deployment and seeing these movies overseas. I never saw any previews for Transformers (had no idea what to expect, and expected cheesiness in the special effects, but instead got perfection in the special effects, but cheesiness in the over-done "Michael Bay-esque" forced comedy), and no previews for Bourne Ultimatum (which allowed me to see it without any spoilers, and I thoroughly enjoyed it).
 
steve said:
Anyone know if 24 Season 6 is coming to Blu-ray? I just saw an ad on TV for the DVD box set, and would love this in high-def.

24 Season 6 is one of the travesties in TV history. As a 24 nut, I'm ashamed of even spending money on that POS season. Especially coming off the heels of season 5 - which was excellent.

And sorry, if you're going to have anyone play Jack's father, it had better be Donald Sutherland. WTF was James Cromwell doing there? Stupid story, stupid decisions and stupid ideas.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Ultimatum was the only good sequel?
Live Free or Die Hard was pretty decent.

I liked Ultimatum, but the ending was kind of lame.
 

yacobod

Banned
captive said:
Ultimatum was the only good sequel?
Live Free or Die Hard was pretty decent.

I liked Ultimatum, but the ending was kind of lame.

live free or die hard wasnt really a die hard movie, it might have been the most over the top action movie i've seen in a long time

it was a complete departure from the die hard series imo, the first one was sort of realistic with an average joe hero stuck in a bad situation

i mean at the end of the movie he's hanging off the wing of an air force jet

movies dont get much dumber than LFoDH, that being said the movie was sorta fun in a popcorn way
 

steve

Banned
DarkJediKnight said:
24 Season 6 is one of the travesties in TV history. As a 24 nut, I'm ashamed of even spending money on that POS season. Especially coming off the heels of season 5 - which was excellent.

And sorry, if you're going to have anyone play Jack's father, it had better be Donald Sutherland. WTF was James Cromwell doing there? Stupid story, stupid decisions and stupid ideas.
My wife and I avoid watching the shows we buy boxsets for, so I haven't watched or read a single thing about season 6... until now. :lol

Same goes for Lost, Smallville and ALIAS when it was still on. We watch em all when they hit disc, no commercials or cliffhanger endings for us thank you very much.

And anyways, even if S6 is the suxxor, we're completists, we own em all, gotta have this one too.
 
Why the Bourne Series is the Best American Film Trilogy Ever Made

Of course the author's opinion is debatable, a lot of things get explained in his editorial.

From a purely mechanical point of view, the structure of The Bourne Ultimatum is fantastic. Given the fact that most of the film technically takes place before the final scene of Supremacy, the latter two films of the trilogy feel like complements to one another rather than totally separate installments. The series is not complete without Ultimatum, from either a story or character point of view. Since the two overlap, then, Ultimatum feels like the final, necessary half of Supremacy.

I know that the structure confused some people (more than a few viewers thought that the final scene of Supremacy actually happened twice in the context of the story, and that its second appearance in Ultimatum was actually Bourne’s way of signaling something to Landy), but it still gave the film a sense of immediacy that would have been missing had Ultimatum started a long time after Bourne’s final words to Landy at the end of Supremacy.

Bourne floating in the water with a bullet wound (rebirth – the first time, Bourne lost his memory and was forced to become a new person. This time, Bourne has it all back and chooses to start a new life)

And I'll use the BOGO BD movies as Christmas gifts.
 
steve said:
My wife and I avoid watching the shows we buy boxsets for, so I haven't watched or read a single thing about season 6... until now. :lol

Same goes for Lost, Smallville and ALIAS when it was still on. We watch em all when they hit disc, no commercials or cliffhanger endings for us thank you very much.

And anyways, even if S6 is the suxxor, we're completists, we own em all, gotta have this one too.

Well, in that case, go nuts. The last few episodes were quite decent. They make up for a lot of the mishap earlier on.

On to the subject at hand.



Another article on Warner's rumored move to Blu-ray
 
DarkJediKnight said:
Well, in that case, go nuts. The last few episodes were quite decent. They make up for a lot of the mishap earlier on.

On to the subject at hand.



Another article on Warner's rumored move to Blu-ray

Was going to post that myself but figured someone else would, all in all nothing solid but always good to read.
The only thing that I do not agree with is the notion that people will not rebuy catalog titles, as myself and I know many others do trade up every chance that is given.
 
I find it more suspicious that there's an Amazon Blu-ray Warner GOGO, but none for HD DVD. This could be interpreted as:

1. Warner going Blu-ray exclusive and wants the sales of their titles to reflect their decision.

2. Warner going HD DVD exclusive and wants to clear Blu-ray stock.

Has there ever been a HD DVD BOGO from Warner?
 

maynerd

Banned
Warner hasn't shipped me a couple of blu-ray titles saying that can't get stock of them for a couple of months now. Perhaps they aren't restocking because they are going hd-dvd exclusive!!!! :-o
 
DarkJediKnight said:
I find it more suspicious that there's an Amazon Blu-ray Warner GOGO, but none for HD DVD. This could be interpreted as:

1. Warner going Blu-ray exclusive and wants the sales of their titles to reflect their decision.

2. Warner going HD DVD exclusive and wants to clear Blu-ray stock.

Has there ever been a HD DVD BOGO from Warner?

I do not remember who was involved in the last hd bogo.
In my opinion the most telling thing is that Warner has not come out after the "rumor" and said "no we are not, we are supporting both" as they did the last time a rumor hit about them.
Either way, not going to jump in too deep and instead sit back and see the way things play out.
 
maynerd said:
Warner hasn't shipped me a couple of blu-ray titles saying that can't get stock of them for a couple of months now. Perhaps they aren't restocking because they are going hd-dvd exclusive!!!! :-o

Or perhaps they just do not like you because it seems nobody else ( outside of Canada ) has issues that severe?
They are notorious for their store since September though, most people who had this issue canceled their orders and went elsewhere.
 

maynerd

Banned
OokieSpookie said:
Or perhaps they just do not like you because it seems nobody else ( outside of Canada ) has issues that severe?

Believe me it's not just me. But it's more likely that their online site is shit.
 
maynerd said:
Believe me it's not just me. But it's more likely that their online site is shit.
That I do totally agree with.
Which sucks because that 20% deal they had would have saved me quite a bit on the Potter crap.
 

maynerd

Banned
OokieSpookie said:
That I do totally agree with.
Which sucks because that 20% deal they had would have saved me quite a bit on the Potter crap.

25%! btw you can still get in on the deal but you won't get it for a while.
 
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