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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Thanks for answering GAF.
HocusPocus: That's not acceptable when DVDs can be had for under $20. Why is this flying?
I think it's time for you enthusiasts to settle on a format and force the market to bend to your will.
HocusPocus: That's not acceptable when DVDs can be had for under $20. Why is this flying?
Well, that's silly. Why should all this matter if the enthusiasts are going to allow the stalemate to continue?DarkJediKnight said:
Yowza. $500. And I'd have to upgrade my receiver. Bleh.
That's retarded. In my business, I'd be fired if I kept modifying the specs of a major production system. Why do these guys get away with it? My Ye Olde Toshiba DVD player from 2002 would still play every DVD out there if I brought it out of storage. Why are they selling players that will not play everything?
Er, $400 or $400. Still too rich for my blood just for higher detail movies.
I think it's time for you enthusiasts to settle on a format and force the market to bend to your will.
glad you appreciated it..dallow_bg said:
this thread kind of pisses me off... and just venting here, not calling anyone out.
I've been kind of turned off from movies recently. Nothing having to do with HD or outgrowing DVD, I just didn't/don't have the time. What HDM has done is it's gotten me excited about movies again, in a way that I haven't been since summer of '97 when I picked up that Creative DVD drive and decoder card for my PC. So I'm buying AND WATCHING more movies than I have in a very very long time. I come in here expecting people to be talking about the movies or how cool some of the features and interviews are..
and instead all this thread is is a pissing/bitching contest between the two formats. I mean do you guys even enjoy the movies anymore, or are you more excited about bolstering your format's sales numbers with your purchases? If anything, this format war sucks because it moves the focus from the movies onto the format the movie was released on and the hardware to play them. When DVDs first came out, the discussion was 95% about the content on the discs, and 5% about the players, features, or even tech specs on stuff like DVD9 or DVD18. Now, and this forum isn't the only one by far, probably less than 20% is discussion about the content on the discs and 80% is about which format is selling better, which format has a better chance, which one is panicking.
I vote we split a thread off to talk about, *gasp*, the movies.. leave the bitter bickering and squabbling about anything having to do with the format war in this thread, and start an HDM thread about the movies. I'd love a place to do so, but it seems every time someone posts a content post in this thread, it lasts for about 3-4 posts, and then goes back to bitching/arguing. And almost every HDM forum seems to be the exact same in that regard. People would rather talk about the format war than the actual movies coming out.
Chiggs said:
What the hell is the point of saying that?
borghe said:
To this end, I tried Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone for a few minutes of a variety of scenes, just to test, and I was astonished and thrilled with the video and audio quality. The colors, the TrueHD soundtrack, everything - I can't wait to go through these movies one by one. This set has instantly become one of our most prized household possessions.
Chiggs
Gold Member
gkrykewy said:
Because your justification of HD-DVD's avoidance of a near-term "dead-end" based solely on a number of standalone players sold (and a good number of them at fire sale prices) is incorrect for a number of reasons? And this is especially true if WB goes Blu in January or February.
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your definition of "near-term?"
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Same here. Games have even taken a back seat to my movie viewing. My netflix queue makes me a very happy man, brimming with HD content on both formats. With my wife in Chicago along with my daughter, I get to play bachelor again, so I've been rewatching the HD DVD's I own with the IME turned on from beginning to end.
Plus I'm getting movies that my wife generally wouldn't watch with me (Oldboy, The Host, Blazing Saddles) this week since I bumped up all my personal picks on netflix.
I noticed that on Batman Begins, the IME fails to trigger on two occasions, where you hear a faint voice commentary but see no video. Plus I wish we could up the volume on the PiP commentary, and perhaps expand the window size.
ConsumerSquare
Member
I think somebody tried that a while ago, but you can imagine how it turned out...borghe said:
I agree about HD making home video exciting again. Sort of. I love the improved image quality and it is tough to go back to DVD, but I'm committed to being much more selective about my purchases. I don't want another massive library of impulse buys and movies I'll watch one time only and sell five years later for $1.50 each. So this time around I'm committed to only buying movies and TV shows that I'm especially fond of. And considering the horrible HD selection right now, pickins are slim.
Also, unfortunately, I haven't been excited by most special features I've seen so far. I think most making of documentaries are tedious and I never watch them, so shoving them into a tiny PIP screen over the feature itself is a step back for me. I think I watched the 300 PIP feature all of 20 second before saying screw it. I'm sure that thing holds an appeal to someone, but for me it's like playing a videogame with the textures turned off. "Now you can enjoy our product in incomplete form!"
borghe said:
I made this speech about 15 pages ago to no avail. Now I just mostly lurk the thread to see if anyone is saying something insightful about movies which will happen maybe once a page. If you want to talk about actual movies, I would suggest the forums over at dvdtalk.com.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
YagizY said:
The HD Digest forums (the individual BD/HD DVD software discussion areas, not the smackdown) are pretty good about movie discussion. At least the HD DVD side is, I haven't checked the BD side.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
michaeld said:
The PS3 loads and plays quite quickly, even from being in standby.
DarkJediKnight
Member
gkrykewy said:
The Panasonic sends DTS MA bitstream. I don't know if it has True HD decoder. You can look it up.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Three or four times, an HD movie/content thread ahs been started, but most of them die from lack of interest.
It isn't that people aren't interested in discussing content, it seems more like there wasn't enough of it to discuss. Perhaps it's time to try again.
It isn't that people aren't interested in discussing content, it seems more like there wasn't enough of it to discuss. Perhaps it's time to try again.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Ignatz Mouse said:
I was guessing he meant standalones since he asked right after someone posted the deal on the BR player, and the answer would be yes. The 360 add-on also loads much quicker than the HD DVD standalones.
Basically: Ps3/360 addon >>>>>>>>>HD DVD/BR standalones when it comes to loading. From bootup, I guess it would depend on which actually boots faster, 360 or Ps3 (though I haven't done any tests at home). In terms of how long they take to load a movie, I'd say they're comparable.
DarkJediKnight said:
Right, but whether it's sending bitstream or PCM, as long as the codec is decoded by the BD/HD player, shouldn't any HDMI-equipped receiver be able to play back the decoded signal, regardless of whether the receiver itself is capable of decoding the codecs?
I know that's the case for TrueHD and DD+, as was referenced in your post for TrueHD, so I'm wondering whether bitstream vs. PCM makes a difference. I'm new to this stuff!
Ignatz Mouse
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HD movie thread opened. I think we may have critical mass to keep it afloat this time. Go post.
KZObsessed
Member
DarkJediKnight said:
Alan Bell is in charge of Paramount. He was making a joke about Alan Bell's bs about BD replication rather than the big bribe which was the reason they went HD-DVD exclusive.
TheJesusFactor
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can't wait till January, hopefully we will find out where is Warner's stance and we can just be happy with one format.
OokieSpookie
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Anyone want to start a pool as to who will fuck up the other thread first?
(You can already see little format war "jabs")
(You can already see little format war "jabs")
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
OokieSpookie said:
What the hell are you talking about?? That thread is going fine and I'm sure there will be disagreements about a movie's overall quality or PQ, but hopefully that's it. I see people sharing their stories about transfers, etc. and answering questions. I see folks for both formats and neutral folks. Leave that thread alone.
OokieSpookie
Banned
MaX_PL said:
No, bogo type deals are exempt.
The only thing would be if a movie was 25.99 now and like 23.99 sunday.
OokieSpookie
Banned
VanMardigan said:
You know, I said to myself "who would see this and blow up".
And then I said to myself "really, who else would it be"
And WHOOSH here you are...
Were your ears burning or something?
I just made a general statement, you are getting a bit defensive lately.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Well how about you point out a "format jab", then. I'd like to see how warped your perception is that you take any perceived slight whatsoever as a format jab. Or maybe I missed something, cause I haven't read every sentence.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
To the Aussies on here:
JB Hi-Fi are still running their "buy two HD titles get one free" and with the massive amount of high quality titles coming out this is the perfect oppurtunity to take.
JB Hi-Fi are still running their "buy two HD titles get one free" and with the massive amount of high quality titles coming out this is the perfect oppurtunity to take.
Phoenix
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HokieJoe said:
I have several inside angles so I'll tell you this, consumers actually have a poor uptake in digital downloads - trivial in fact. It is extremely difficult for anyone to make money because it ends up costing more money to deliver digital downloads to the consumer. Even with DVD CCA (look it up), the market dynamics given the retarded rights model and license windows from the studios, make it such that it is STILL more cost effective for consumers to buy and own their content on physical media in Walmart. Until the digital content window is significantly cheaper than the physical distribution window (and actually doesn't lose parts of the content like extras, close captions, language tracks, etc) - doing an electronic download for video content remains a poor option except for "renting" content.
So Dreamworks and Paramount have gone HD-DVD *exclusive*? So Toshiba essentially have three really powerful studios on their side (not to mention the ones that release the majority of the movies I want to see).
This sucks. The "war" is going to drag on forever...until a new medium comes along, anyway.
This sucks. The "war" is going to drag on forever...until a new medium comes along, anyway.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Witchfinder General said:
Yeah, just came back from there.
Bought The first 2 Bourne Movies
and then got Transporter BD as the 3rd.
Rabid Wolverine
Member
Post from avsforum on Lost S3.
Stupid Region Locking.
Stupid Region Locking.
Rabid Wolverine
Member
Expect to get raped price wise.
And theres still no release date for B'rs.
And theres still no release date for B'rs.
Zombie James
Banned
Any word on sales this week?
sonycowboy
Member
Decado said:
Powerful? In comparison to who? Dreamworks is tiny and Paramount is among the smallest of the movie studios (historically, obviously 2007 has been very, very good to that partnership w/ Transformers & Shrek).
Sony, Disney, & Fox are traditionally much larger studios.
DarkJediKnight
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_leech_ said:
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
For those ratios-- is that the week Pirates came out? I'm never sure what releases go with the numbers.
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