Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Black Deatha
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Think this'll be the first post I have made in this topic.
I hope, but also doubt the new release of Terminator 2 is the extended DC version. I ordered it off amazon like 8 months ago or so, and was disappointed to find it was the bloody theatrical cut.
I really hope this WB rumor comes to fruition, might fianaly get Batman Begins on BD, as well as V and Sin City.
Couple people mentioned a few pages back that the HD DVD version of 300 was in fact superior to the BD one, how so?
I hope, but also doubt the new release of Terminator 2 is the extended DC version. I ordered it off amazon like 8 months ago or so, and was disappointed to find it was the bloody theatrical cut.
I really hope this WB rumor comes to fruition, might fianaly get Batman Begins on BD, as well as V and Sin City.
Couple people mentioned a few pages back that the HD DVD version of 300 was in fact superior to the BD one, how so?
OokieSpookie
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Black Deatha said:
As far as Terminator, there has been rumor of a boxed set in '08 which will definitely have nice versions.
As far as Batman Begins it is pretty much written in stone by insiders that it will be sent to pave the way for The Dark Knight in theaters. V and Matrix could be sooner than you think.
The 300 thing is because of the pip thing, obviously though the public didn't care.
Cosmic Bus
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OokieSpookie said:
There will never be a Terminator box set. Three movies, three different studios.
Zombie James
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A new T2 release? OH PLEASE YES.
SSM25 said:
I don't see the hurry to end this war yet neither side deserves to win or is in a position to go main stream. Both sides have very serious flaws that only competition can resolve.
For HD-DVD studio support is still lacking. Almost every summer block buster this year ended up on blu. Next is the whole 51 TLD and how that is going to work. Last is the players in general being flaky you think the average consumer will put up with monthly firmware updates?
For Blu the issues I see are. First is the cost of the players are insane. I am not talking old 1.0 players from 2006 but real 1.1 or 2.0 players. Next is the firmware crap people are not going to put up with firmware upgrades to fix issues or upgrade the players from 1.0 to 1.1 or 2.0. Until a stand alone player comes along that is equal to the PS3 and cheaper the format is not going to catch on with the average person.
Neither side should win right now. All a win is going to do is slow down fixing the issues with both sides. Also say good bye to reduction of the cost of players at a fast rate and BOGOs if there is no competition. Until 1 format is in position to make a dent in the main stream I assume there be a stalemate forcing both sides to improve.
The firmware update crap has to go. How may times have people had to upgrade the firmware of thier VCRs or DVD players? The average person is not going to stand for the current quality of players. Both sides need a bullet proof player in the sub 200 dollar range.
I have HD-DVD players sitting under the tree for the family. I want to go neutral ASAP just need a solid blu player for 199. If blu wins I don't see it as a bad thing for me since I will be able to pick up a whole library of HD media dirt cheap when they close out hd-dvd movies.
a Master Ninja
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So when looking at some recent Bluray releases I've noticed some films like Pirates: At World's End are only 1080i. What's the deal with that?
Edit: Nevermind.
Edit: Nevermind.
Gary Whitta
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From Amazon user comments:a Master Ninja said:
Pristine_Condition
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a Master Ninja said:
Consider the misprinted label on the first shipment of P:AWE a collector's item.
Naked Snake
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Dot50Cal said:
How do you take screen captures of bluray movies? Do you have BD-ROM drive? Or are these taken with a camera?
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Looks like Amazon and Warner are having a issue with the 5 disc Blu-ray collectors edition and the Ultimate Editions Blu-ray/HD-DVD sets...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UBMWG4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
"Production Delay: Due to production and shipment delays from the studio impacting all retailers, this title will not be available to ship by the street date indicated above. We are working with the studio to get this product in stock as quickly as possible. We apologize for any inconvenience."
The HD-DVD 5 disc collectors edition doesnt have this notice on its page.
Canceled my blu-ray pre-order and bought it on hd-dvd.This is becoming pretty annoying.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UBMWG4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
"Production Delay: Due to production and shipment delays from the studio impacting all retailers, this title will not be available to ship by the street date indicated above. We are working with the studio to get this product in stock as quickly as possible. We apologize for any inconvenience."
The HD-DVD 5 disc collectors edition doesnt have this notice on its page.
Canceled my blu-ray pre-order and bought it on hd-dvd.This is becoming pretty annoying.
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OokieSpookie said:
Please be new encodes with HD Audio!
Neither format has serious flaws and competition isn't the only route to improvement. There is the simple motivator that if they don't pick up their game, they won't get more people packing the seats, i.e. buying the product they're trying to peddle.quest said:
These are fledgling formats still and most of the "serious flaws" you list are nothing more than the normal growing pains of young formats. Competition doesn't necessarily help nor hurt. CD and DVD grew up on their own, one HDM format could too.
Nicodimas said:
These things always get ruined when FW or SD get ahold of them. Ordering 50 or 100 - what moron would ever think they could possibly be honored?
Most likely there will be apology coupons for everyone. Would be nice if they canceled the multiple orders and honored the singles, or at least maybe offered a deal on one of the new samsung models..
krypt0nian
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O HAY! Blu-ray 1.1 firmware update for PS3 tomorrow!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217980
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217980
krypt0nian said:O HAY! Blu-ray 1.1 firmware update for PS3 tomorrow!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217980
Great will rent the first 1.1 BD tomorrow.
Ignatz Mouse
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quest said:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/12/17/sonys-bdp-s300-now-sitting-at-299/
It's not $199, but then again, neither were DVD players until nearly three years after they appeared.
VanMardigan
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krypt0nian said:O HAY! Blu-ray 1.1 firmware update for PS3 tomorrow!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217980
Fantastic. Bring on the movies. I'm pretty much in love with the iME stuff.
Is that 1.1?
Ignatz Mouse
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I don't think so, but since it's reltively recent (this Summer) I suspect it's upgradable.
I don't follow the 1.1/2.0 thing much at all, so I haven't kept track. It's a non-issue to me.
I don't follow the 1.1/2.0 thing much at all, so I haven't kept track. It's a non-issue to me.
VanMardigan
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Ignatz Mouse said:
Of course you don't, you own a Ps3, but the person you quoted specifically mentioned 1.1-2.0 and it's enough of an issue that even Blu Ray Bill is recommending folks don't buy them.
If it's anything like the HD DVD iME, the majority of Blu Ray movies next year will feature that interactivity layer. I personally hope all of them do. And the similarly priced HD DVD players all feature that secondary decoder and ethernet. So does the Samsung dual format. And we know the Ps3 is capable. It's definitely an issue for anyone looking to buy a BD standalone, so having a non-compliant set at near the mass market price is troubling, even if it is a liquidation.
Ignatz Mouse
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I get it Van, I just don't care. I wouldn't care if PS3 weren't upgradable.
:lol So I sell my PS3 and all my movies and I am talking to my dad yesterday and he hints at getting me a freaking player for Christmas. Oh well it was still worth it as I really needed the extra money at the time.
PS: There is nothing wrong with the Blade Runner 5 disc Blu Ray. I have it in my hands right now.
PS: There is nothing wrong with the Blade Runner 5 disc Blu Ray. I have it in my hands right now.
OokieSpookie
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Ignatz Mouse said:
He can not fathom that people do not give a shit.
The world revolves around bullet points remember?
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is a good example of why the average person will not give a shit.
You get all of the little clips while watching the movie, only you hit a button and the movie pauses and you watch the clip and then the movie goes back.
(I may be odd, but I actually kind of prefer it that way other than trying to watch the movie at the same time some guy is talking about cgi and showing his computer.)
1.1 is nice and all I am sure ( and remember I have given 300 and Transformers a shot to wow me ) but there is no content that you lose by not having a 1.1 blu player, only how the content is delivered.
VanMardigan
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Yeah, it depends on the content. But stuff like the 300 PiP is not suitable that way, and stuff like the iME on Batman Begins (and others) that show the stunts/effects as they're happening also benefit from being in sync with the movie. Like on MI3, it's just a video commentary, which is fine, but not that necessary, and the featurettes you described seem to be fine if they're delivered outside of context. It's not just a bullet point, it's a cool feature that I enjoy. And if ignatz wants to buy a 1.0 player fine (thought I know he talks out of ignorance for the benefits), I was commenting on people who saw the player at $299 or below and didn't realize it was gimped. And I'll ignore your patently stupid jabs at me.
Ignatz Mouse
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It's gimped, but 1080i-only players aren't? I realize that they weren't brought up this time, but you were never johnny-on-the-spot to point out issues with the low-end Toshiba models. And priorities being what they are, resolutiona nd movie playback >>>>> interactive extras content.
VanMardigan
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The 1080i models play the movies and all the interactive stuff. The 1080p models are available for less than $299 and feature a secondary video decoder and ethernet. I have a 1080p set and I'd still pick up a 1080i player, since I'd still end up with a 1080p image on my screen.
And I hope you realize that playback issues are present in both formats right now. Anything else you want me to address?
And I hope you realize that playback issues are present in both formats right now. Anything else you want me to address?
Ignatz Mouse
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My point was that you magnify the issue of the playback of a subset of extras material while you've never brought up the limitations of the primary function of the devices -- the resolution of the movie itself-- when it was HD-DVD.
Just pointing out the hypocrisy.
As BD player prices drop, and the last significant advantage of HD-DVD, price, gets smaller and smaller, the little things suddenly baloon in importance. I can't wait to see what the talking points are once the featureset is matched. Suddenly region coding will become the worst thing in the world, I bet.
Just pointing out the hypocrisy.
As BD player prices drop, and the last significant advantage of HD-DVD, price, gets smaller and smaller, the little things suddenly baloon in importance. I can't wait to see what the talking points are once the featureset is matched. Suddenly region coding will become the worst thing in the world, I bet.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I'm trying to figure out what's the "issue" with the 1080i Toshibas. Is it that 1080i isn't HD? Is it that folks with 1080p tv's aren't getting a 1080p signal even though they are because their tv is deinterlacing it? What do you want me to address about that?
UnholySpectacle
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Just ordered Brotherhood of the Wolf on HD-DVD, anyone else have it? Just curious if the transfer is really good or not.
Blade Runner 3 Blu 2 DVD
Workprint is 110 mins
Final cut has Dolby TrueHD 5.1, other versions have Dolby Digital 5.1
Disc 1-Final Cut
Disc 2-Dangerous Days (DVD)
Disc 3-US, International Theatrical, and Director's Cut
Disc 4- Enhancement Archive (DVD)
Disc 5- Workprint
not sure WHV shipped mine and it got here today (I still have not received my Ocean's giftset from them
Workprint is 110 mins
Final cut has Dolby TrueHD 5.1, other versions have Dolby Digital 5.1
Disc 1-Final Cut
Disc 2-Dangerous Days (DVD)
Disc 3-US, International Theatrical, and Director's Cut
Disc 4- Enhancement Archive (DVD)
Disc 5- Workprint
Chiggs said:
not sure WHV shipped mine and it got here today (I still have not received my Ocean's giftset from them
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